Just put on my K&N filter PICS INSIDE

[Meatstick]

I used the RU-4450 Filter from K&N nice and short, and it doesnt hit the overflow tank, it also doesnt weigh the MAF sensor down take a look-
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[Meatstick]

another shot

 

[Stormtrooper77]

I think you might have been better off with the panel type filter. That looks like it will suck in all that hot air that accumulates under the hood.

 

[Meatstick]

It actully has much better throttle response, and lost the shift hesitation. No problems with water (its raining in NJ right now) and no funky idle problems. Im gonna make a heatsheild for it as soon as I get a chance, I had something like that on my 5.0 Mustang and it worked just fine-
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pic of the 5.0 engine with K&N filter

 

[Stormtrooper77]

... No problems with water (its raining in NJ right now) ...

You won't have to worry about water where the filter is located. The heatshield is good though.

 

[Glowmunkey]

It actully has much better throttle response, and lost the shift hesitation. No problems with water (its raining in NJ right now) and no funky idle problems. Im gonna make a heatsheild for it as soon as I get a chance, I had something like that on my 5.0 Mustang and it worked just fine-
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pic of the 5.0 engine with K&N filter

Note the heatsheild...

 

[jonnydoe48]

you are going to lose hp with that on an MSP.

 

[Meatstick]

you are going to lose hp with that on an MSP.

do you have any hard facts to back that up? Just asking cause I had a setup like that on My Mustang and my Bronco and they both felt much better and had better throttle response then with that bad airbox that comes factory-
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[shaolin]

you are going to lose hp with that on an MSP.

What are you smoking? Any setup with a conical filter is better than stock.

 

[jonnydoe48]

search the forum. i guess you havent been here long enough to know about the heatsoak and the placement of the fan/k&n cone filter. however, it does seem like the drop in panel filter will actually increase, because it is still in the stock airbox.

let me see if i can find the evidence for you.

 

[Meatstick]

Ok so your gonna show me a thread that someone claims to have this problem big deal Untill I see dyno sheets, I dont believe anything the proof is in the pudding-
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[jonnydoe48]

Ok so your gonna show me a thread that someone claims to have this problem big deal Untill I see dyno sheets, I dont believe anything the proof is in the pudding-
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http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21471&highlight=cone+filter+dyno

no. im going to show you a dyno.

so does that mean the proof is in the cake now? or how about some ice cream?

 

[Meatstick]

it means that the car lost .4 hp which blows my mind. I cant see how it lost hp. Id love to see how it does in the real world
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[jonnydoe48]

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it lost .4 peak whp. look at the low end dips. it lost way more than that there.


also, it explains why he lost that hp. the fans turned on, and heatsoak took its place. the filter was sucking in hot air which will not yield a gain in hp, but rather a slowdown.

 

[Heathen23]

it means that the car lost .4 hp which blows my mind. I cant see how it lost hp. Id love to see how it does in the real world
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When the fan kicks on it blows hot air directly into your K&N. This has been discussed many times and it has been determined to loose horse power and ultimately is a step back. Makes the car sound alive, but it's worse off than stock.

 

[Meatstick]

I wonder if in the real world, with cool air coming in as if you were driving, how it reacts? All I know is that It feels so much smoother and the hesitation is gone. That alone is worth the 34$ for the filter. All I have to do now is turn up the boost a lil bit lol
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[byohndspeed]

well actually didnt it gain hp?but it did loose torque.

 

[Roywhitep5]

get some piping and try to make a homemade cai. that'll fit that heat problem

 

[shaolin]

Just get injen...

 

[Meatstick]

Im not done with this at all, its just a beginning. I have to tell ya, I love how the car sounds now too. You can actully hear the turbo and the bpv, which would leave ME to believe its getting more air and is less restrictive but what do I know
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