Just put on my K&N filter PICS INSIDE

[pluto316]

Get a heat sheild. I say K&N filter panel is the best value. You might not hear a loud turkey but doesnt it perform better?

I would have just waited for AEM to come out with a SRI. AEM better not ditch on me cuz I'm saving up and should have enough money by late Feb.
K&N doesn't make a SRI except for the Typoon (CAI/SRI)...which is like $600

You can get a Injen CAI but I want to stay away from CAIs.

The K&N filter pays for it's self, as you can reuse it. You get usually about 4-5whp out of a filter you can use for over a year. I say that's a good deal.

 

[drew72ca]

So I read through all these posts, since I was thinking about a K&N. Has anyone done any testing with the panel type, drop-in K&N? Does it have the same losses as the conical? I have an 03.5 P5 and would like to get the K&N panel type, drop-in filter. I mostly want it so I don't have to replace and reaplce paper filters. It would be nice to get some power gain, increased throttle response, smoother idle, better mpg, but I'm not expecting much there just from a different filter. I do not, however, want losses on any of those things. Comments anyone that have used the drop-in panel type K&N?

Thanks,

Andy

 

[pluto316]

So I read through all these posts, since I was thinking about a K&N. Has anyone done any testing with the panel type, drop-in K&N? Does it have the same losses as the conical? I have an 03.5 P5 and would like to get the K&N panel type, drop-in filter. I mostly want it so I don't have to replace and reaplce paper filters. It would be nice to get some power gain, increased throttle response, smoother idle, better mpg, but I'm not expecting much there just from a different filter. I do not, however, want losses on any of those things. Comments anyone that have used the drop-in panel type K&N?

Thanks,

Andy

It's still using the same airbox, only it allows more flow through the filter. You will gain, just not a lot. It's more of just a better filter overall... Ya know what I mean?

 

[Brian MP5T]

So I read through all these posts, since I was thinking about a K&N. Has anyone done any testing with the panel type, drop-in K&N? Does it have the same losses as the conical? I have an 03.5 P5 and would like to get the K&N panel type, drop-in filter. I mostly want it so I don't have to replace and reaplce paper filters. It would be nice to get some power gain, increased throttle response, smoother idle, better mpg, but I'm not expecting much there just from a different filter. I do not, however, want losses on any of those things. Comments anyone that have used the drop-in panel type K&N?

Thanks,

Andy

The losses were caused by the intake drawing air from under the hood where there is more heat.

(p5white)

 

[Swerny]

So I read through all these posts, since I was thinking about a K&N. Has anyone done any testing with the panel type, drop-in K&N? Does it have the same losses as the conical? I have an 03.5 P5 and would like to get the K&N panel type, drop-in filter. I mostly want it so I don't have to replace and reaplce paper filters. It would be nice to get some power gain, increased throttle response, smoother idle, better mpg, but I'm not expecting much there just from a different filter. I do not, however, want losses on any of those things. Comments anyone that have used the drop-in panel type K&N?
Thanks,Andy

You will get a LITTLE gain, or so says K&N, how much there is exactly is unknown.
Don't forget, you have a P5, and most of this discussion was about the MSP application and Brian with his Turbo P5. It's a different ball of wax with FI versus NA.

 

[drew72ca]

Hmmm, so it sounds to me like the K&N drop-in panel-type would be a good way to go then. I MAY see some gains, but minimal, but I would have a lifetime filter, right?

Andy

 

[Swerny]

you are correct sir. Do a search on CAI vs SRI vs Drop in for the N/a Protege's. I'm not familiar with what is best for them .

 

[Notorious]

Not to flame you here Notorious, but do you have different #'s to prove your theory? This topic has been discussed to death, and people like Dr. Sound have dyno'ed all the options. All testing indicated a loss of HP and torque? I remember Joe P stating the same thing some tme ago when he had his MSP as well.

No Flames received. Well honestly you can't trust a dyno to show 1-2 hp gain/loss. Heres the thing, a dyno with a fan is still not gonna get the same amount of air as if the car was moving. Removing the rear weatherstripping will allow air to pass more freely though the engine bay. I think the volume of air going through will be enough to counter the heat from the radiator fan. Many people including dr. sound have drove my car when I used to have the cone filter hooked up to the maf and no one ever even noticed that there was a power loss or anything.

Sorry if that didn't make much sense, im trying to do like 15 things at once!

 

[Swerny]

I see your point, and I know there is more to consider than just the dyno #'s.
Your theory about when the car is moving with regards to air flow are interesting, too bad there is no way to know for sure.
On the flip side, those brutally hot days when it seems there is no air flow, I think you would have the opposite effect.
Weatherstripping or not, it gets bloody hot under the hood, even with the brutally cold weather here lately, it still melts the ice and snow off my hood after a drive.

 

[Notorious]

Agreed, but honestly I don't if there is a power loss its not anything that would be noticable. Without sounding like a ricer, the sound that the cone gives kind of makes it worth it. As for those hot days I could definetly see if the ambient temp is higher it would affect performace, luckily i didnt run into many of those. I still think the way to go is either cai or sri, the gains will be greater.

 

[Brian MP5T]

Agreed, but honestly I don't if there is a power loss its not anything that would be noticable. Without sounding like a ricer, the sound that the cone gives kind of makes it worth it. As for those hot days I could definetly see if the ambient temp is higher it would affect performace, luckily i didnt run into many of those. I still think the way to go is either cai or sri, the gains will be greater.

Good luck in search of HP. I think that talking about 1-2 HP gains off of a $300.00 CAI is a bit stupid. You could increase a 1/4 mile time just by taking some s*** out of the car or running on a half a tank. The CAI in my opinion is about the sound and the rice. They look great and on paper make a difference.

 

[Notorious]

How is cai intake rice? Besides SRI and CAI sounds pretty much identical. Plus I payed no where near 300 bucks for the injen. I think with the msp setup cai is the way to go so your not overwhelming that oil cooler turned intercooler thats on the car.

 

[Brian MP5T]

How is cai intake rice? Besides SRI and CAI sounds pretty much identical. Plus I payed no where near 300 bucks for the injen. I think with the msp setup cai is the way to go so your not overwhelming that oil cooler turned intercooler thats on the car.

By Rice, I meant to say Flashy, Polished,.

I would have to say that a CAI is the way to go, I posted earlier that a Short Ram might actually hinder HP. We are on the same direction on different roads.

Yes, the stock IC need all the help it can get.

 

[Notorious]

ahhh gotcha, i totally misunderstood your post. Sorry about that. I guess i'm a terrible multitasker.

 

[Brian MP5T]

ahhh gotcha, i totally misunderstood your post. Sorry about that. I guess i'm a terrible multitasker.

(drinks)