Israeli Legislators to Washington: If You Don't Stop Iran, We Will

Isreal has done everything they realistically can to attain peace. They just GAVE BACK large chunks of land to the Palastinians that they really shouldn't have had to - but they did anyway simply because they knew it wouldn't make ANY difference anyway. Peace simply isn't attainable anymore without war over there. Isreal will bomb Seria soon, and Seria and Iran have already said that if Isreal bombs Seria that they will retaliate together.

The idea of a "religious state" is a stupid idea over there anyway and it's proven itself that it won't work. Only solution now is essentially WW3 - for Isreal, the US, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Afgahnistan to all combine and wipe out that entire area. All of it makes the Afghan and Iraq wars that much more important - the US now has 2 key logistical areas in the Middle East that it can use for military action when needed.
 
YellowMP5 said:
you are ******* kidding me right? do you want to raise your children as muslims, following allah like brainless sheep? I don't. fundamental islam is a problem and needs to be taken care off. you either want peace or you don't. if you don't then you should die.

I hope you are joking...cause if not wow. You are a dumb twit. I am not even going to start this forum arguement, so we'll leave it at that.
 
xelderx said:
You should read that article very carefully. If you want me to show you what you're missing I'll be happy to put it in bold for you.

stop throwing words around. do it.
 
Im just curious because I am very unfamiliar with the platforms if you are Pro-Israel and American relations would you vote democrat or republican?
 
I like Hebrews. Go JEWS!
Of course I have some Arabs friends to...
I think that most moderate Arabs agree that the Lunacy taught in what appears to be a large number of Middle Eastern schools in regard to Israel needs to end. When you teach your children that Jews are like dogs and that it is a good thing to kill them you are breeding a never ending cycle of hate.
Israel is a tiny island of hope in a sea of radical madness. They are the only Democracy in the entire Middle East unless you count Iraq HAHAHAHA yeah right like that is gonna work.
They are America's only real ally in the Middle East.
Jordan is not so bad and Turkey likes us on occassion.
Israel has tried to make peace. They have given back land and have moved other Jews off of their land by force.
They are tired of being shelled EVERY DAY.

Iran is a rouge state that has promised to bring nuclear Jihad onto the world scene. This is a very bad thing. I hope we/they can stop this without a ground war.
 
Last edited:
Moeed said:
I hope you are joking...cause if not wow. You are a dumb twit. I am not even going to start this forum arguement, so we'll leave it at that.
This young man here is a good example of a well informed Muslim.
He is not a loony wahabbi and is a good freind of mine.
The Islam he follows is not the same perverted version that the Islamic radicals folllow.
Moeed you are credit to this country and I am proud to call you my friend.
I am a righty Christian but Moeed is a damn good guy and I am sure he has no love for the radical Iranian regime.
Now the sad thing is the Iranian people seem to like America and hate their government so if we do attack we lose favor with them and may loose any hope of having a popular uprising by non-violent moderate Muslims.
I hope we can stop the Nukes without harming our position with the Iranian public.
BTW Moeed is "Paki" (no slur intended) and technically not Middle Eastern :)
Go MOEED! (first)
 
yashooa said:
This young man here is a good example of a well informed Muslim.
He is not a loony wahabbi and is a good freind of mine.
The Islam he follows is not the same perverted version that the Islamic radicals folllow.
Moeed you are credit to this country and I am proud to call you my friend.
I am a righty Christian but Moeed is a damn good guy and I am sure he has no love for the radical Iranian regime.
Now the sad thing is the Iranian people seem to like America and hate their government so if we do attack we lose favor with them and may loose any hope of having a popular uprising by non-violent moderate Muslims.
I hope we can stop the Nukes without harming our position with the Iranian public.
BTW Moeed is "Paki" (no slur intended) and technically not Middle Eastern :)
Go MOEED! (first)

my comment was harsh now that i read it over. and as such i would like to appologize. (yeah, i do have respect for others (glare) ) it was however not intended at the general muslim population. i also have muslim friends. the comment was intended against muslim extremists or fundamental islam. the problem with islam is that it is not keeping up with the times. it is a religion stuck in the past. it is a religion that treats women like dogs or any other property. it is a religion that must be "overhauled". and once again (how many times has this have to be said because muslims wake up) that the the muslim world REFUSES to do anything about extremists. this is the what the war is about. israel's response always comes AFTER they have been attacked. how can you not see that here. the muslims hold the key to the peace in the middle east and they refuse to do anything about it.
 
Last edited:
yashooa said:
I like Hebrews. Go JEWS!
Of course I have some Arabs friends to...
I think that most moderate Arabs agree that the Lunacy taught in what appears to be a large number of Middle Eastern schools in regard to Israel needs to end. When you teach your children that Jews are like dogs and that it is a good thing to kill them you are breeding a never ending cycle of hate.
Israel is a tiny island of hope in a sea of radical madness. They are the only Democracy in the entire Middle East unless you count Iraq HAHAHAHA yeah right like that is gonna work.
They are America's only real ally in the Middle East.
Jordan is not so bad and Turkey likes us on occassion.
Israel has tried to make peace. They have given back land and have moved other Jews off of their land by force.
They are tired of being shelled EVERY DAY.

Iran is a rouge state that has promised to bring nuclear Jihad onto the world scene. This is a very bad thing. I hope we/they can stop this without a ground war.

that, i will agree with 100%. + rep points for you. that is only so much you can take (meaning israel) and the string has finally broken.
 
YellowMP5 said:
my comment was harsh now that i read it over. and as such i would like to appologize. (yeah, i do have respect for others (glare) ) it was however not intended at the general muslim population. i also have muslim friends. the comment was intended against muslim extremists or fundamental islam. the problem with islam is that it is not keeping up with the times. it is a religion stuck in the past. it is a religion that treats women like dogs or any other property. it is a religion that must be "overhauled". and once again (how many times has this have to be said because muslims wake up) that the the muslim world REFUSES to do anything about extremists. this is the what the war is about. israel's response always comes AFTER they have been attacked. how can you not see that here. the muslims hold the key to the peace in the middle east and they refuse to do anything about it.
Treat women like dogs? If I treated my mom, girlfirend, wife or hell any woman as such, I deserved to get my ass beat. But here in America, I have something many of those "muslims" you see will never have, a secular education

The problem is that when you think of a muslim, you see a gun toting fucktard chanting anti American slogans. The media has branded that into your mind. I am proud to call myself American. If I dont like the ideas and values of this country, then I know where the door is, and I deserve not to be here. The problem is not the religion, its uneducated idiots who refuse to pick up books and get educated. Those "muslims" will believe anything that comes out of a religious figures mouth.

There are plenty of muslims who are up with the time. The issue is that we are the first generation Americans (being of easterly decent), and we are just now getting old enough to start making differences.

So what to do about extremists? Well the problem is that the extremists of these problem countries are the ones in charge. People are oppressed and are not allowed to learn. Since they stay dumb and the only education they get is the propanda that has a fundy twist on it, ergo you have your problems of extriemists who do violent acts in the name of a religion that they themselves hardly know about. We need to send some teachers imo too.

Bottom line, whatever your view of my religion, its your right. But, it is my right to educate and dispell unfactual information and bulls***.

have a nice day :)
 
Not all Middle Eastern countries are radicals. The UAE is heading in the right direction. We have a Dubai project and they are very progressive for a Middle Eastern nation. Their women wear make up, wear contempary clothing and they are educated.
The UAE is technically many smaller nations bound together.
Hopefully we can help free the Iranian people but it won't be easy and I am not for an extended occupation.
 
Last edited:
Moeed said:
We need to send some teachers imo too.

do you volunteer? you are correct that there are many educated muslims and you basically paraphrased what i said. but nothing will change until the muslims change or like you well said, start learning. so how do you propose we teach them? do you have a plan?

btw, look what's hapenning in france and in europe in general. Many second and third french born arabs are starting problems. didn't they have a secular education? what happened there?
 
YellowMP5 said:
do you volunteer? you are correct that there are many educated muslims and you basically paraphrased what i said. but nothing will change until the muslims change or like you well said, start learning. so how do you propose we teach them? do you have a plan?

btw, look what's hapenning in france and in europe in general. Many second and third french born arabs are starting problems. didn't they have a secular education? what happened there?

The difference is American Muslims assimilated into the culture. They kept their identities, the mosques (sic), etc. but they becmae American. They love this country and many came here to leave the crazies behind.
In France they have refused to become French and from what I can tell seem to look upon it as a culture war.
Those who act as the rioters in France have whether they be Christian, Muslim, or secular deserved to be jailed or deported.
 
Last edited:
yashooa said:
The difference is American Muslims assimilated into the culture. They kept their identities, the mosques (sic), etc. but they becmae American. They love this country and many came here to leave the crazies behind.
In France they have refused to become French and from what I can tell seem to look upon it as a culture war.
Those who act as the rioters in France have whether they be Christian, Muslim, or secular deserved to be jailed or deported.

ok, but then what is the difference between the 2 groups? how can we make sure that the next group of immigrants that comes here becomes american and not "french". we seem to be coming back to the same topic, education. everybody takes sides but noone looks at the problem, how do we solve the problem?
 
We should all just take a giant leap forward in evolution and eliminate the concept of a diety. Religon what a focking con
 
religion is a BIG problem but not the final word. muslims still kill muslims and christians still kill christians.
 
Back