ajyabhilash
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I want to know your ideas on the Mazda Rx-8. Like is mazda going to come out with a new rotary engine for the Rx-8?
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ajyabhilash
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They do have a new rotary engine? in what year of the rx8s? Cuz I have a 2005 Sport Rx8. I am planning on trading it for the 2009 R3 package... But I just want to make 101% sure that they are not coming out with a new engine for the rx8s in the future, cuz I've read somewhere that their speculating that they will be getting a new engine for the 2010 or 2011 models. I just hope I am not confused by them saying their getting a new engine for the new Rx-7 which is coming out late 2010-2011. If by any chance you guys find any info about a new engine coming out in the future for the rx8s plz give me some info about it. THanks.
(uhm).......your not allowed to use that diagram if you don't have a TII or FD. I think it's right there in the owner's manual or somethin'......really.All the rotary info you'll ever need to know.
But seriously it looks highly unlikely they will redesign the Renesis engine much for boost.
Besides, unless your a real asshat about modding without tuning, coolant seals will fail first. (drinks)
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I've earned my keep with rotaries, trust me. Having assembled 4 of them now with my friend. One was a 20B, another was a 'real' rebuild, two we built from two blown motors with only one good housing/rotor per engine and one of the two ran 12.87 in the 1/4. I have little desire to actually own one. Fun to borrow expensive to own.
ajyabhilash
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So Rx8 will be getting a brand new engine sometime in the years 10-11?
the RX-8 from the beginning of its production was a completely redesigned motor from the RX-7...the Renesis is what they call it now
I dont think its changed that much from the first 8's that appeared to what is sold now...I actually e-mailed mazda asking if they were going to make any changes to the rotory (namely inquiring about a possible factory-turbocharged rx-8) and they explained that it is highly unlikely
however (while I am not going to look to find out where I saw it nor do I have any proof to back it up) I have heard rumors about a new 'rx-7' to be released.....who knows if thats true or not but I can gaurantee you that the rx-8 wont be the last rotory from mazda nor will it stay the same, just as with any car
yeah new engine, but it wont be for the rx8.
heres some opinion...
the rx8 is done after 2011 or 2012.
they will never turbo a gas powered rotary ever again
that is based off these facts...
in 2011 or 2012 mazda will introduce the next generation rotAry engine....its spelled with an A fellas...
they are going NA, bc turbo kills emisisons, fuel economy, and reliability. so they will go bigger, its the only direction left to make hp without sacrificing too much. the current 13B MSP is basically maxed out, ask any company trying to make an exhaust, an intake, or a header for that engine...
its called the 16x, as mentioned earlier by someone else.
FACTS:
1.6l
2 rotor
non turbo
all aluminum\
direct injection
more hp
more torque
better emissions
better fuel economy
less oil consumption
good estimates...
280hp
190 lb feet of torque
^hold me to that
no sooner than 2011, 2011 sounds like a good run for the rx8, i dont think they will make a gen2 of the rx8. its my personal belife the 16x will go into a more coupelike rotary car. i dont kno if they will call it the rx7, i hope not, but im leaning towards them calling it the rx9. once again...this whole paragraph is opinion...
ajyabhilash
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So the question to my answer is that, there will be a new engine but it wont be for an rx8? It will be put into a different car? The so called "16x"? Will they ever get a new engine for the rx8 in the future you think? or As I've read somewhere that they aren't going to make rx8s anymore after 2010-2011... The rx7s are going to be the next generation of the rx8... IDK...
my definition of a new rotary would be the 16x or the hydrogen / gas engine u previously described.
neither of which will find their way into the rx8.
its a good idea that the 16x which will be in the , and i quote, "next rotary sports car" will not be going into a "gen 2" rx8.
the 16x is due to be released at 2011 at the EARLIEST. 2009 saw a refresh for the rx8 and by 2011 or 2012 it will be death time for the much loved (by me at least ) rx8.
the hydrogen/ gas engine that is in a few concept rx8s will not actually be put in an rx8 for MASS production. they built a handful of these cars and leased them out to a few companies and such but thats as far as the rx8 hydrogen/gas vehicle will go. they wont actually put that engine in an rx8 and sell it world wide. just because the engine was put in a production car doesnt mean they will actually plan to sell it....
google "hydrogen rotary" and see what else they put that engine in!
if the rx8 is to die in the next few years, which im guessing is true, then why bother spending all the money to redesignt he car to take a new engine?
for your own side of the argument...
the only way the rx8 would get a "new" engine, like the 16x or the hydrogen unit, the vehicle would have to be redesigned. so , they would bring a second generation rx8 out to justify all the work.
imo i dont see them continuing with the rx8 much after 2010-2011.
im assuming a new rotary coupe is on its way, in the range of 2012 or so and will bear the 16x. if you look at the recent concept cars that mazda has released they all have this same shape going for them, they do this "flow" action in all of them.
i can see a coupe, much like the kabura in shape, to be released. maybe its a coupe with a third small door on one side...maybe its a true 2 door, who knows.
some of what i say is opinion, like me thinking the rx8 wont have a second generation and they will release an all new coupe. so take what i say with a grain of salt.
neither of which will find their way into the rx8.
its a good idea that the 16x which will be in the , and i quote, "next rotary sports car" will not be going into a "gen 2" rx8.
the 16x is due to be released at 2011 at the EARLIEST. 2009 saw a refresh for the rx8 and by 2011 or 2012 it will be death time for the much loved (by me at least ) rx8.
the hydrogen/ gas engine that is in a few concept rx8s will not actually be put in an rx8 for MASS production. they built a handful of these cars and leased them out to a few companies and such but thats as far as the rx8 hydrogen/gas vehicle will go. they wont actually put that engine in an rx8 and sell it world wide. just because the engine was put in a production car doesnt mean they will actually plan to sell it....
google "hydrogen rotary" and see what else they put that engine in!
if the rx8 is to die in the next few years, which im guessing is true, then why bother spending all the money to redesignt he car to take a new engine?
for your own side of the argument...
the only way the rx8 would get a "new" engine, like the 16x or the hydrogen unit, the vehicle would have to be redesigned. so , they would bring a second generation rx8 out to justify all the work.
imo i dont see them continuing with the rx8 much after 2010-2011.
im assuming a new rotary coupe is on its way, in the range of 2012 or so and will bear the 16x. if you look at the recent concept cars that mazda has released they all have this same shape going for them, they do this "flow" action in all of them.
i can see a coupe, much like the kabura in shape, to be released. maybe its a coupe with a third small door on one side...maybe its a true 2 door, who knows.
some of what i say is opinion, like me thinking the rx8 wont have a second generation and they will release an all new coupe. so take what i say with a grain of salt.
Super Unique
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the rx8, while an interesting and capable handling machine, has never really set the world on it's ear with sales. I see mazda running its production as long as they can, if only to recoup their investment. Beyond that it's days are definitely numbered. It could have been so much more if only it had more power.
TRXSandRacer02
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actaully if you have a rotor housing from a 13b and older housing the only difference if the oiling ports and the exhaust ports. Mazda does have hydrogen rotarys in japan available for fleet vehicles and some exclusive rx8s but the new rotary engine may be 3 rotor. The mazda factory lemans series racers are 3 rotors and they make some serious horses
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