I think I have been a bad boy...

[DGibb]

I went and looked at a Ford Focus SVT today...and...I kinda liked it... *waits for the flames*

Man, if the states would get the Focus RS (210HP+ Turbo) I'd drop the MSP in a second to get one. Damn Europeans! They get all the powerful cars!

 

[1sty]

I would smash ya, Hell those focus rally cars kick ass. Fords trying like hell to make that car a compeditor.

 

[Newf]

one problem.....it's ugly....looks like a "girlie" car.

Might as well buy a neon too.

 

[Limited Edition]

don't worry DGiBB..
i admit the SVT focus isn't too bad
but it's a bit pricy for a ford IMO.
the blue looks really good when under direct sunlight...

 

[katsmp3]

ITS NOT A GIRLY CAR. Im a girl and that has not blinded me from seeing that it is butt ugly. I feel bad flaming somones opinion. but, we are trying to help you. Yes, the car is fast. Yes the car post good numbers. But is that worth your reputation as a stylish person.

kat

 

[Sir Nuke]

okay....I am chiming in here anyway....its been said....but I will say it again...ITS UGLY!!

I turely hate the way the front end slopes down and just goes straight to the ground...and those BIG ASS funky headlights that reach way up the hood are sooooooooooooo frickin ugly!!! it looks like they ran out of sheet metal for hoods so they compromised and made the lights bigger! lol and those wheelwells! omg...how ugly are those? it looks like some cheap fender skirts on their edges....way ugly....one of those things could come off the dealers floor running 11's and I wouldn't have one.

Yes the rally cars kick some butt.....but I am not running a rally....I am crusin around town....ya know?

(stash)

 

[AustinG]

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ALL CAN SAY ABOUT THE CAR IS THAT IT'S UGLY. CAN'T THINK OF ANY THING ELSE BETTER. JUST ADMIT THAT THE CAR IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE MAZDASPEED AND THAT'S IT. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE THE GUY THAT GOT BEAT OUT BY A BETTER CAR AND STARTED COMMING UP WITH ALL THESE THING WHY IT NOT THE CAR IT THE WEIGHT, THE CLUTCH, AND SO ON. JUST ADMIT THAT THE NEON AND FOCUS ARE GOOD FAST ASS CARS.

 

[Protege01MP3]

and you sound like a guy who doesnt know where the caps lock key is on his keyboard... or maybe you broke it in your fit of rage when you almost blew up from being so upset because alot of the ppl on this board dont like a car that can be classified as "butthole" at best... hmm... i wonder which it is

 

[Dexter]

well of course the focus rally car is more powerful. but the SVT isnt.
the wrx is more powerful than the mazdaspeed too...big s***. whats this argument about again?

 

[JasonH]

It'd be one thing if the car was ugly but unique, but the Focus SVT is just as ugly as the regular Focus, and seemingly just as common. And now they're going to make a four-door hatchback too? Why not just slap an SVT sticker on every Focus out the door?

And please, "MORE POWERFUL" than the Mazdaspeed Protege?

Car & Driver wrote:
For all that work, though, the Focus is not as fast as you might expect. At 7.8 seconds to 60 mph and 16.1 seconds through the quarter-mile, it's barely quicker than the Honda (Civic Si.)

 

[BigBlue]

Personally I don't like the looks either. There are tons of cars out there faster than the MSP...I mean it's a great car, but it's not gonna go around taking out Vipers(well not without some work)., but it's got it all in my opinion. Stylish looks that set it apart, great system, great straight line performance and it handles on rails. Yeah I can find cars that are faster than it with ease...but do you really want to drive around in an ugly car?

 

[Ishmael]

I'd take a Focus RS over a Mazdaspeed or a WRX any day. The RS version of that car is far from ugly. The interior is still the s****, but the outside of the RS screams Rally ready road monster.

 

[Protege01MP3]

EXACTLY!!!
people seem to forget that the mp3 and msp are a TOTAL PACKAGE

they arent just fast.. or just stylish.. or just come w/ a damn good stock system... they are all of that and more... and they even have somewhat decent insurance rates because theyre 4dr sedans... i know ppl that wont even look at anything w/ more than 2 doors (or 2 + hatch ) but they love the mp3 even tho its a foh doh (dats dat ebonics foh four door foh allz y'all unedumicated fowkes)

anyway... lets divide power/style/handling/and accessories (like audio) in to their respective categories... and then lets see who wins

.................mp3..........svt
1. power.....................1
2. handling....1.............
3. style..........1.............
4. acsries.......1.............

hmm... looks like that doesnt exactly balance out... mp3 wins in 3 categories... focus wints in 1 category... and i'd bet a new turbo that the mp3 can be modified to acheive the same power as a modified focus as well... so.. heres the conclusion..

if your just looking for a car, that you want to keep stock, and keep as a daily driver... winner is......... mp3

if your looking for a car that you can pimp out and make it a mad crazy show car..... winner is...........mp3

if your looking for a car that you can modify for track use and get good quarter mile times.... winner is.........mp3 (ok.. either i guess.. but still)

if your looking for a car that is very original, stylish, and limited edition......... winner is....... mp3

well.. i guess that the focus is screwed.... well other than the fact that the mp3 isnt exactly in production anymore.. lol...

oh yah.. and anywhere above, you can replace "mp3" w/ "msp" and all statements will still be valid

 

[Antoine]

I would say the Focus svt isn't a bad performance package...but it's a Ford and personally I would avoid buying a Ford.

See we are lucky...of course many of us would say the MSP is the top dog (in the performance compact class) just because we are Mazda enthusiast but the reality is...it actually is the TOP DOG!!!

 

[slug420]

I hate stock and SVT focuses (foci?)
And I am reluctant to admit it but I have seen some heavily modified focuses that I do like. And I will aknowledge their performance in the SVT form and potential performance when modified. But even if they sold the focuses looking like the heavily modified ones I have seen, I wouldnt buy one, cuz its a ford. i shopped around for a new car last winter knowing i would be buying one this fall, and focus wasnt even close to being considered......im getting a msp.

 

[jhatfi]

I disagree. The Focus RS is pretty bad ass looking IMO. Much meaner looking than the SVT Focus. Now does it look as good as the Mazdaspeed Portege? No, but fugly it isn't. Still do not like the back end of it though.......

Focus RS

 

[APEXistud]

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ALL CAN SAY ABOUT THE CAR IS THAT IT'S UGLY. CAN'T THINK OF ANY THING ELSE BETTER. JUST ADMIT THAT THE CAR IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE MAZDASPEED AND THAT'S IT. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE THE GUY THAT GOT BEAT OUT BY A BETTER CAR AND STARTED COMMING UP WITH ALL THESE THING WHY IT NOT THE CAR IT THE WEIGHT, THE CLUTCH, AND SO ON. JUST ADMIT THAT THE NEON AND FOCUS ARE GOOD FAST ASS CARS.

Since when was the SVT Focus more powerful than the Mazdaspeed. :wtf: I must have missed that info.

 

[NC_MSP]

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ALL CAN SAY ABOUT THE CAR IS THAT IT'S UGLY. CAN'T THINK OF ANY THING ELSE BETTER. JUST ADMIT THAT THE CAR IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE MAZDASPEED AND THAT'S IT. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE THE GUY THAT GOT BEAT OUT BY A BETTER CAR AND STARTED COMMING UP WITH ALL THESE THING WHY IT NOT THE CAR IT THE WEIGHT, THE CLUTCH, AND SO ON. JUST ADMIT THAT THE NEON AND FOCUS ARE GOOD FAST ASS CARS.

Hey....I sold those damn things....I even admit they are ugly and they dont perform as well as you expect.....for a focus...its good....everything needs work....and the fact that ford admitted to us dealers that they could have easily gotten 200 hp out of that engine pisses me off.....they are releasing the 5door version of the svt focus this year...which is even uglier than the hatchback....why not just redo the entire vehicle....widen it a lil...ground effects maybe....defenitly different headlights.....and different wheels.....not to mention more power from the engine.....and people might consider buying.....here in NC they are just sitting on the dealer lots......I'd take the MSP over the focus svt anyday.....and on to the neon.....sold those my first 2 years in the car biz......POS....thats all i gotta say....any vehicle that loses 75% of its value in a years time is a POS.....the interior i wouldnt be caught dead in.....the shifter is like a foot and a half tall.....it has no power.....maybe the SRT might......but thats a different story....why dont they just make all the neons look like the srt......take out the turbo and call it an SR.....and for the limited production wanting people....give em the SRT.....the fact is mazda has hit the nail on the head with the MSP and everyone is jealous.....some are people that are afriad they made the wrong choice.......others...cuz they cant have the car.....whatever the reason....its still jealousy......hey..i'm not gonna own one.....but i'd back it in a minute.......anyways...thats my 2 cents guys.

 

[Sir Nuke]

Plain and simple......if you want, you can make ANYTHING on four wheels run like a bat out of hell....yes even a focus. But to many, speed isn't everything....or even the tip of the iceberg for that matter...you have to go in style. I have never seen a Focus or many others cars that when they slowly and quietly pull up to a stop sign, then make heads turn.....THAT is what most of us are talking about....well making heads turn TOWARDS it...not away from it....is it nice to have a car that will out perform any other...or just a LOT of cars out there? sure it is....but you have got to have some appealing styling to go with it to make it a real package.

 

[DGibb]

I wouldn't call this ugly... pretty damn nice in my opinion...