hydroxycut?

[capnsavem]

hydroxycut never worked for me, especially in the ephedra-free formula.

i used Lipo-6 liqui-caps for a while, with moderate results. nothing wonderful.

now i'm using Redline. s*** is ridiculous. be careful with it though. one 8oz can has me soooo amped in the gym!

 

[capnsavem]

i just want something that can help my body lose fat more while maintaining muscle

it's called a GYM

 

[jred321]

lol, thanks, i know what a gym is


what i want to do i guess is the impossible, both add mass and reduce fat

 

[Witchdoktor]

for a few weeks before competition bodybuilders cut back on their food intake so that their body uses all of the last fat reserves and they get the nice veiny look. they also cut back on water intake for a day or 2 before to help with the look

 

[Iggy]

lol, thanks, i know what a gym is


what i want to do i guess is the impossible, both add mass and reduce fat

its not imposibble, i did it. i lost 30lbs and gained alot of muscle my freshman yr in college. you just need to do more cardio. yeah you might get bored, but just bring a cd player, or switch up what cardio you do. there is more then just running.

 

[jred321]

right, but i don't have 30lbs to lose, i have maybe 5-10 of fat. i want to add mass, not lose it, and lose body fat, not weight. i'd be perfectly happy weighing 200lbs but i don't want to eat 4-6000 calories/day. if i simply wanted to drop weight that'd be no problem.

 

[RallyeRedSi]

wha tis your workout regimine, in those 5-6 days how many are weight days and how many are cardio days, when you do cardio try to do it for a half hour doing interval running on the treadmill i.e set it to a high speed (i.e. 7) and when you get tired put it to a slow mph(i.e. 3) and repeat when you feel you can run again, or do the treadmill on an incline this bruns alot more calories then jsu tleaving the treadmill straight. You can eat whatever you want in the world you just have to moderate how much you eat of it. Don't depend on pills for you to get more cut, just work hard and it will eventualy come

 

[capnsavem]

lol, thanks, i know what a gym is


what i want to do i guess is the impossible, both add mass and reduce fat

you can do just that. but 1 at a time is your best bet. i recommend a program for dropping the fat, then incorporating a lean mass building program. that way you can focus on those to goals individually. you may get more results this way.

 

[RallyeRedSi]

right, but i don't have 30lbs to lose, i have maybe 5-10 of fat. i want to add mass, not lose it, and lose body fat, not weight. i'd be perfectly happy weighing 200lbs but i don't want to eat 4-6000 calories/day. if i simply wanted to drop weight that'd be no problem.

if you want to add mass increase the weight you are lifting and lower your reps to about 6-4 repitions, at my best shape i weight 190 pounds at 5'11 with a 32 inch waist, i worked out 6 days a week, 3 weights, three cardio

 

[jred321]

wha tis your workout regimine, in those 5-6 days how many are weight days and how many are cardio days, when you do cardio try to do it for a half hour doing interval running on the treadmill i.e set it to a high speed (i.e. 7) and when you get tired put it to a slow mph(i.e. 3) and repeat when you feel you can run again, or do the treadmill on an incline this bruns alot more calories then jsu tleaving the treadmill straight. You can eat whatever you want in the world you just have to moderate how much you eat of it. Don't depend on pills for you to get more cut, just work hard and it will eventualy come

day 1 - light abs 5-10 mins, back ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 2 - light abs 5-10 mins, chest ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 3 - light abs 5-10 mins, heavy cardio 20-25 mins, legs ~45 mins, 8 minute abs
day 4 - light abs 5-10 mins, arms ~1 hour, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 5 - light abs 5-10 mins, shoulders ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs

i usually have a day off after leg day, and sometimes after shoulders too, then repeat. lately what i find myself doing for cardio is 1/4 mile at 6mph, 1/4 at 7, 1/4 at 7.5, 1/4 at 8, 1/4 at 8.5, 1/4 at 9, 1/4 at 9.5, and 1/4 at 10mph. sometimes i switch it up and do the "hill" or "random" program on the treadmill at 7mph, and occassionally the elliptical but i don't really like that. every once in a while a stair master too.

i don't want to rely on pills to make me more cut, i just want them to help

 

[evilmonkeyMSP]

witchdoktor...where the hell can I get ephedra?

 

[capnsavem]

if you want to add mass increase the weight you are lifting and lower your reps to about 6-4 repitions

you can also incorporate a "reverse pyramid" technique, adding weight after every set, and maybe even do youre last, heaviest set until exhaustion. i've been seeing (and feeling) results with this technique.

 

[jred321]

if you want to add mass increase the weight you are lifting and lower your reps to about 6-4 repitions

tough to do without a spotter there, and you lose definition if you do this, i keep my sets to 10


at my best shape, probably 6 months ago, i weighed 185 and benched 300 twice and could still run a sub 6 minute mile, i mostly focused on weights though

 

[jred321]

you can also incorporate a "reverse pyramid" technique, adding weight after every set, and maybe even do youre last, heaviest set until exhaustion. i've been seeing (and feeling) results with this technique.

i end most body parts with a pyramid to help get a good pump in the muscle, i don't for shoulders though because i've hurt my shoulders in the past (damn baseball) and don't want to do that again

 

[capnsavem]

tough to do without a spotter there, and you lose definition if you do this, i keep my sets to 10


at my best shape, probably 6 months ago, i weighed 185 and benched 300 twice and could still run a sub 6 minute mile, i mostly focused on weights though

so you're not looking to be muscle-bound, you want to train just to be in shape, but want to keep the flexibility and all that jazz? you may want to look into a training regimen used by MMA fighters. hard cardio in 5 minute intervals, with maybe 30 sec rest time in between intervals (like rounds in most MMA matches), and maybe even drop all accessory exercises and concentrate on power-cleans, deadlift, squat, pull-up and bench press...

 

[RallyeRedSi]

day 1 - light abs 5-10 mins, back ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 2 - light abs 5-10 mins, chest ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 3 - light abs 5-10 mins, heavy cardio 20-25 mins, legs ~45 mins, 8 minute abs
day 4 - light abs 5-10 mins, arms ~1 hour, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs
day 5 - light abs 5-10 mins, shoulders ~45 mins, cardio 15-20 mins, 8 minute abs

i usually have a day off after leg day, and sometimes after shoulders too, then repeat. lately what i find myself doing for cardio is 1/4 mile at 6mph, 1/4 at 7, 1/4 at 7.5, 1/4 at 8, 1/4 at 8.5, 1/4 at 9, 1/4 at 9.5, and 1/4 at 10mph. sometimes i switch it up and do the "hill" or "random" program on the treadmill at 7mph, and occassionally the elliptical but i don't really like that. every once in a while a stair master too.

i don't want to rely on pills to make me more cut, i just want them to help

doing abs all the time is not good, abs are like every other muscle in your body they need rest, you wouldn't train your chest everyday would you?

also maybe try to do 3 days weights 2 days cardio, they way i train is with the push and pull method, monday chest and back, wednesday quads and hamstrings and friday shoulder, biceps triceps,

 

[jred321]

so you're not looking to be muscle-bound, you want to train just to be in shape, but want to keep the flexibility and all that jazz? you may want to look into a training regimen used by MMA fighters. hard cardio in 5 minute intervals, with maybe 30 sec rest time in between intervals (like rounds in most MMA matches), and maybe even drop all accessory exercises and concentrate on power-cleans, deadlift, squat, pull-up and bench press...

well, flexibility and me have never really gotten along, but more or less yea, be in shape i've thought about adding what i used to have to do in track as a "hell day" on a saturday or sunday (one day when i get to see the sun, damn work) which is an 800m, 600m, 400m, 3x300m, 3x200m, 3x100m, with 30 second rest intervals. i don't want to be muscle bound, but 5'9" at 200lbs w/ little body fat sounds good to me

 

[RallyeRedSi]

i used that technique and stiil kept myself cut, also try incorparating heavy lifts like deadlifts, squats and the clean and jerk, these add mass quickly sice it uses most of your body

this was me when i was doign all this

i got massivley outta shape when i got with my girl so right now im trying to get myself back to that

 

[jred321]

doing abs all the time is not good, abs are like every other muscle in your body they need rest, you wouldn't train your chest everyday would you?

agreed, but i never train my abs as hard as i do any other part of my body, and i like to do it because when i lift other body parts i like to feel tight in my abs and it helps get the blood flowing. i should probably take out the 8 minute abs every day and use the 6th day as a heavy cardio/ab day

also maybe try to do 3 days weights 2 days cardio, they way i train is with the push and pull method, monday chest and back, wednesday quads and hamstrings and friday shoulder, biceps triceps,

i've tried doing 2 body parts per day and i don't like it nearly as much, especially since it takes close to an hour for each body part and 2 hours in the gym is more than i want to spend, so rather than doing a push/pull on the same day i do them on consecutive days, i.e. back one day chest the next.

 

[jred321]

i got massivley outta shape when i got with my girl so right now im trying to get myself back to that

that's one of the reasons i stopped going too, stupid girlfriends, now she's in australia though and i told her when she gets back she's joining the gym with me or else she's not gonna see me much