hydroxycut?
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RallyeRedSi
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i hate it because everybody who sees me now is like daaaaamn what happend bro you used to be in really good shape
lol, i hope that's a good ways off for me. the good thing about my gf is that she likes to run and play basketball and stuff and the gym has a bball court in it so she can keep herself occupied while i'm busycapnsavem said:get married. then you'll have motivation to get out of the damn house and hit the gym. trust me
RallyeRedSi
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my girl supports me but at the same time wants me too eat junk food with her all the time
NoRotorNoMotor
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Breakfast: slimfast shake, mutivitamin and a dexatrim
Lunch: slimfast shake
Dinner: Chicken Breast and a salad
Lunch: slimfast shake
Dinner: Chicken Breast and a salad
RallyeRedSi
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eating small meals every 3 hours is the best way to eat
Lot of mixed info... what are your stats now jred? You need to cut all the sloppy fats out of your diet. (its winter though you should be bulking 
)
Try to increase you reps with some lighter wieght at the gym. If you want to try a good supplement i would reccomend Superdrol but make sure you take milk thistle while you on its (at least 500mg a day) and afterwards take a product like ReboundXT
I know of you other liquid cutting agents you could take as well if your interested.
Up your water intake and lower soduim and milk intake. These things retain water. Also try to keep eating alot but switch things up like make subs and sandwich a wrap and make sure you getting 100% whole wheat. Eat more salads and hard boilded eggs and other things with nautral protiens.
Ive got to head to class but ill try to post up some more stuff later.
Edit, also try switching your cardio up, bike, stairs, elipitcal maching etc...
)Try to increase you reps with some lighter wieght at the gym. If you want to try a good supplement i would reccomend Superdrol but make sure you take milk thistle while you on its (at least 500mg a day) and afterwards take a product like ReboundXT
I know of you other liquid cutting agents you could take as well if your interested.
Up your water intake and lower soduim and milk intake. These things retain water. Also try to keep eating alot but switch things up like make subs and sandwich a wrap and make sure you getting 100% whole wheat. Eat more salads and hard boilded eggs and other things with nautral protiens.
Ive got to head to class but ill try to post up some more stuff later.
Edit, also try switching your cardio up, bike, stairs, elipitcal maching etc...
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the ban was politcial bulls***. ephedra as a supplement is no longer available but it's sold over the counter as a bronchodilator. go to wal-mart or any supermarket pharmacy section and you'll see it.
be carefull with it though. do not disregard the warnings to it. it's not candy. plus it doesn't work without a good training and dieting regime. so if you're not training/eating right you're only leaving yourself open to problems. best over the counter supplements are acetyl-creatine and ECA. ECA stands for ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. take it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and do 45-60 min of cardio.
ephedrine - 25mg
caffeine - 200mg
aspirin - 300mg
drink tons of water and eat at least 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight.
now move this to the how-to section and give me rep bitches
be carefull with it though. do not disregard the warnings to it. it's not candy. plus it doesn't work without a good training and dieting regime. so if you're not training/eating right you're only leaving yourself open to problems. best over the counter supplements are acetyl-creatine and ECA. ECA stands for ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. take it first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and do 45-60 min of cardio.
ephedrine - 25mg
caffeine - 200mg
aspirin - 300mg
drink tons of water and eat at least 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight.
now move this to the how-to section and give me rep bitches
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- 99 LX
Here's info on a cutting diet
The BASICS-
1.Postworkout Nutrition- Im a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).
2. Carbs- You are damn right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they dont count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams.
3. Protein- You need tons. 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of lean bodyweight is a good general rule of thumb. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and I will only cover a few, (Egg whites, Lean steak, Chicken breast, the list goes on forever.).
4. Fats- Guess what? You need fat to lose fat. We are talking about the granddaddy of fats, the EFA (Essential Fatty Acid). Good sources of fat are ( Flax Oil, Nuts, Salmon, Olive Oil).
5. The separation of Carbs and Fats- This is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, I know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them.
6. Supplements-
Glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism when cutting. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey.
ALA/R-ALA: Gets my supplement of the day award. R-ALA is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the R, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. Its a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. Its not a crutch, and wont do anything about fat intake. ALA and R-ALA can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy R-ALA that you supplement it with Biotin. Glucorell-R is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the R, you are looking at 1-2 pills of Glucorell R for each 30-40grams of carb intake.
Protein and Carb Shakes: Im not going to cover protein, because even if you cant afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (CarboHit, Glycoload, UltraFuel). Dextrose and Maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online.
7. Cheating- Cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and fat loss over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people dont give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and youve consumed 6,000 calories. And thats not good in any case.
8. Cardio- Cardio and cutting usually go hand in hand. I won't go into specifics about length, other than cardio shouldn't be excessive. 45 minutes to one hour daily should be sufficient, and should be performed on an empty stomach.
Sample Diet:
Note: This is a sample diet for a 200 pound gentleman who is wishing to cut. We can assume his BF to be around 15%. This diet will NOT work for you if those criteria dont apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day.
Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal
Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax
Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein
Workout
Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition
Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.
Meal 6:
Shake with Flax
That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat.
*Reminder: This is a PRIMER. Its not mean to be comprehensive.
Here comes the fun part: Question and Answer.
Q: What about dairy?
A: If you dont mind a soft look, fat free cottage cheese is an excellent caseinate source, but as for milks- way too much processed sugar. NO.
Q: Should I do a keto diet?
A: Unless you are morbidly obese, or would like to drag your wilted muscles behind you, stay away from keto. Again, thats my opinion. You can see my previous posts for my anti-keto ranting.
Q: What about cycling carb intake?
A: Obviously on non workout days you will be without a shake, so you will be auto-cycling. It works well that way.
Q: Is sodium an issue?
A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no.
Q. How do I make my meals not taste like cardboard?
A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup.
Q. I dont like old fashioned oats. Can I eat the pre mixed oats with fruit?
A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar.
Q. What about fruit?
A: Fruit replenishes glycogen stores in the liver, and in my opinion, is not to be a staple of a strict cutting diet, with a few exceptions.
Q: Can I eat steak while cutting?
A: Definitely. Make sure its a leaner cut.
Obsessed is a the word that lazy people use for dedicated.
The BASICS-
1.Postworkout Nutrition- Im a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).
2. Carbs- You are damn right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they dont count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams.
3. Protein- You need tons. 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of lean bodyweight is a good general rule of thumb. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and I will only cover a few, (Egg whites, Lean steak, Chicken breast, the list goes on forever.).
4. Fats- Guess what? You need fat to lose fat. We are talking about the granddaddy of fats, the EFA (Essential Fatty Acid). Good sources of fat are ( Flax Oil, Nuts, Salmon, Olive Oil).
5. The separation of Carbs and Fats- This is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, I know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them.
6. Supplements-
Glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism when cutting. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey.
ALA/R-ALA: Gets my supplement of the day award. R-ALA is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the R, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. Its a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. Its not a crutch, and wont do anything about fat intake. ALA and R-ALA can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy R-ALA that you supplement it with Biotin. Glucorell-R is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the R, you are looking at 1-2 pills of Glucorell R for each 30-40grams of carb intake.
Protein and Carb Shakes: Im not going to cover protein, because even if you cant afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (CarboHit, Glycoload, UltraFuel). Dextrose and Maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online.
7. Cheating- Cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and fat loss over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people dont give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and youve consumed 6,000 calories. And thats not good in any case.
8. Cardio- Cardio and cutting usually go hand in hand. I won't go into specifics about length, other than cardio shouldn't be excessive. 45 minutes to one hour daily should be sufficient, and should be performed on an empty stomach.
Sample Diet:
Note: This is a sample diet for a 200 pound gentleman who is wishing to cut. We can assume his BF to be around 15%. This diet will NOT work for you if those criteria dont apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day.
Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal
Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax
Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein
Workout
Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition
Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.
Meal 6:
Shake with Flax
That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat.
*Reminder: This is a PRIMER. Its not mean to be comprehensive.
Here comes the fun part: Question and Answer.
Q: What about dairy?
A: If you dont mind a soft look, fat free cottage cheese is an excellent caseinate source, but as for milks- way too much processed sugar. NO.
Q: Should I do a keto diet?
A: Unless you are morbidly obese, or would like to drag your wilted muscles behind you, stay away from keto. Again, thats my opinion. You can see my previous posts for my anti-keto ranting.
Q: What about cycling carb intake?
A: Obviously on non workout days you will be without a shake, so you will be auto-cycling. It works well that way.
Q: Is sodium an issue?
A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no.
Q. How do I make my meals not taste like cardboard?
A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup.
Q. I dont like old fashioned oats. Can I eat the pre mixed oats with fruit?
A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar.
Q. What about fruit?
A: Fruit replenishes glycogen stores in the liver, and in my opinion, is not to be a staple of a strict cutting diet, with a few exceptions.
Q: Can I eat steak while cutting?
A: Definitely. Make sure its a leaner cut.
Obsessed is a the word that lazy people use for dedicated.
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- 2001 Pro 2.0 LX
subbing cause I suck at working out and have been out of the gym for 6months. not like I really knew what I was doing in there anyway. nice info. Hopefully this week I will go back. I really need someone to kick me in the ass to go. Maybe I'll even get a PT for a few weeks to help me in the begining
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- 2001 Pro 2.0 LX
whats a good protein shake and also good for getting Creatine, Dextrose and ALA ? I heard celltech/nitrotech isn't all that good. recomendations?
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- 99 LX
supplements online are way cheaper than any local store. personally I use DPSnutrition.com.
main ingredients in celltech are ALA, creatine, and dextrose. the ratio of the three are not optimal and it's way overpriced. way cheaper to buy the three separately. Nitrotech is protein but nothing special. both supplements are made by MuscleTech. you see the ads for these is muscle mags where the people in the pics are bodybuilders who do not use the products in the least bit - lol.
main ingredients in celltech are ALA, creatine, and dextrose. the ratio of the three are not optimal and it's way overpriced. way cheaper to buy the three separately. Nitrotech is protein but nothing special. both supplements are made by MuscleTech. you see the ads for these is muscle mags where the people in the pics are bodybuilders who do not use the products in the least bit - lol.
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- 2001 Pro 2.0 LX
now to just find some good workout excersizes for different parts of the body. I'll prob get most of that help from a trainer. either that or this weekend I'm gonna spend mad time looking online for different excersizes
