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MazdaSpeedSter said:
Don't go by dyno #'s. They're not accurate... Theres no way he'd get good dyno's right now anyways for what he's looking for. Wait till winter then the #'s will change drastically. Florida right now sucks for dynos. There now way to get #'s your looking for. First you gotta drive to the place, park and let it heat soak, then start it up again, put it on the dyno, put a little P.O.S. fan to simulate "driving." Dyno's are not a good way to rate a product. Unless there was a way to always have a standard everything atmospherically, even then every car is different and will preform different.
DynoJets have onboard weather stations that can correct for conditions. (aka Automatic Conditions Measurement)

http://www.dynojet.com/automotive_dyno/248x_dyno/index.php
 
Mallard said:
Yeah, public forums suck. I'm an engineer so when someone posts claims I like to see what data there is to back them up instead of blindly believing them. It's a peeve of mine to see "tests" being run without adequate instrumentation hooked up. I have asked questions trying to determine what other data you can provide besides, 'I bolted all this stuff on and got this.' That's it. They're not hard or trick questions.

It seems I misunderstood your post about stock boost. I am not trying to call you a liar or defame your character, I'm simply asking for more info.



Lets see, he put the stock bost numbers up and then later probably out of fustration said he didn't have the stock boost numbers. So what, you people are so quick to jump on vendors asses. Yet when you make a mistake like you did about the him not saying the stock boost level 30 some odd posts later you simply want to say OH I MISSED THAT ONE and it not be a big deal.
If your going to question some ones claims (calling them out) then at least read and under stand the post first! After all you are an Engineer so you should be smart enough.

It's my little pet peeve when people as the same question over and over and when it gets answered they wont let it go because it doesn't saticfiy them. I think if you have anymore questions do it in a PM. If you did find him to be jerking the numbers then come out. That way you'd look like a hero not a 0.
 
Hughes412 said:
Lets see, he put the stock bost numbers up and then later probably out of fustration said he didn't have the stock boost numbers. So what, you people are so quick to jump on vendors asses. Yet when you make a mistake like you did about the him not saying the stock boost level 30 some odd posts later you simply want to say OH I MISSED THAT ONE and it not be a big deal.
If your going to question some ones claims (calling them out) then at least read and under stand the post first! After all you are an Engineer so you should be smart enough.

Actually he said "no I do not have stock boost levels" when he meant that he did not run stock boost with all the mods. I'm sure you can see how that confused me, as it confused yourself just now. He never posted what stock boost was until post #35.

It's my little pet peeve when people as the same question over and over and when it gets answered they wont let it go because it doesn't saticfiy them. I think if you have anymore questions do it in a PM. If you did find him to be jerking the numbers then come out. That way you'd look like a hero not a 0.
Actually the only question I repeatedly asked was why he felt his stock numbers were low, which still was never answered. I feel I have asked my questions in a calm, respectful manner and the only one's turning this into are a flame war are you and **********. I do not post on this forum to venderbash, and I never will. I was only asking questions about his testing methods and it seems to have gotten your and SU's panties in a bunch.

This thread has gone way off topic now and he answered my questions to the best of his ability, so I'm out. If you want to yell at me more about asking questions about the products someone sells then feel free to PM me.
 
hopefully im not stepping on anybody's toes, but im interested to see what the dyno #s would be with all the parts on stock boost. not bashing or jumping in the argument or anything like that. i know you dont have that dyno but i'd be interested in seeing it if you ever dyno it at stock boost. also, whats the price look like on this package? thanks.
 
grcuadros said:
hopefully im not stepping on anybody's toes, but im interested to see what the dyno #s would be with all the parts on stock boost. not bashing or jumping in the argument or anything like that. i know you dont have that dyno but i'd be interested in seeing it if you ever dyno it at stock boost. also, whats the price look like on this package? thanks.

We did just a 9.5lbs run because thats what the intake manifold was dynod at and the car was heatsoaked.

These numbers and information is to show an estimate of what you will be looking at with these parts. You may have more, you may have less.
 
Ask questions all day long, I do not mind at all. I like R&D'ing with and/or for you guys. Just do not question SU or my authenticity in any manner. SU works hard here, with other people, and other companies to maintain and build our reputation. If someone shows any inkling of an attack on it, they will be dealt with accordingly. I don't mess around in any aspect of the business.


If you browse the site, you will not see any "half a$$" products, excuse the language. We don't like to waste money, nor do we like to see you guys waste youre hard earned money. <O:p></O:p>
 
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you guys need to get off his ass. who cares if the number was low. Either way he's in FL and the rest of us are where it's not that hot out. Fact of the matter is that the car is putting down 201whp w/ only a few bolt ons.

Cullen, what's the ongoing price for this?
 
Paul said:
you guys need to get off his ass. who cares if the number was low. Either way he's in FL and the rest of us are where it's not that hot out. Fact of the matter is that the car is putting down 201whp w/ only a few bolt ons.

Cullen, what's the ongoing price for this?

You get a 7% discount with an order over $3,000. Email or call if you have questions.
 
Paul said:
you guys need to get off his ass. who cares if the number was low. Either way he's in FL and the rest of us are where it's not that hot out. Fact of the matter is that the car is putting down 201whp w/ only a few bolt ons.

Cullen, what's the ongoing price for this?

ive been trying to prove this point for time and time agian...some people just lvoe hating i guess. but i agree people need to stop doubting and stop bad mouthing when they dont know all the info and the like. or maybe read better/more? who knows?

the point that people need to stop hasseling cullen over the simplest things hes explained time and time again!
 
Paul said:
you guys need to get off his ass. who cares if the number was low. Either way he's in FL and the rest of us are where it's not that hot out. Fact of the matter is that the car is putting down 201whp w/ only a few bolt ons.

Cullen, what's the ongoing price for this?
(werd)Everyone needs to chill. Cullen gives you guys more info then some of the other vendors do about there products!
 
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********** said:
Stock MSP dyno'd 135 whp and 146 tq

Bolt-ons:
Injen Intake with 6 inch Air Ram
TH Upgraded SMIC with aluminum piping
SU Intake Manifold
GHL TB Exhaust
GReddy PR-B Spec II @ 9.5psi

RESULTS: These bolt-on parts, on the same MSP, yielded 201 whp and 203 tq.

I have put a HorsePower Jump package together. PM or email for details.
I shall no longer refer to you as "StreetPoon." :)
 
mspeed101 said:
(werd)Everyone needs to chill. Cullen gives you guys more info then some of the other vendors do about there products!
Plus it was at only 9.5 PSI FOR **** SAKE!
I run 12-15PSI daily. Damn, I would love to have this setup running my boost pressures.
 
157.46 wheel horsepower and 166.87 torque is what I dyno'ed at stock running 5.5psi

of course, I am far from stock now...

Keep up the good work SU and I hope you guys sell a lot of parts!!!!


********** said:
Exactly. I would love to test this setup on a MSP that has 155whp stock, then there would be peak gains of 220hp. I am not sure what Mallard is getting at. He has posted odd questions before on other threads.
 
Street Unit- What is amaizing to me is what the jump would be with some engine management.

And what kind of discount would I expect with a 'power package'?
 
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