How To: Kill your turkey with stock pipes

yeah, im not having ANY issues here!! lovin it the whole way, just wanted to clear that up. your prolly right about the small and blowin off every two seconds, i did that for about a half hour :)!! i couldnt help it, i love it!!! the install was flawless!!
 
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Anyone know if this would be a good solution? Seems like it'd function as both BPV and BOV... What do you experts and tinkerers think?


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TurboSmart Dual Port vents to the intake & vents to the atmosphere with its dual port action. This blow off valve is ideal if you want the loud swoosh without your car stalling out. We recommend adding the bolt on flange kit for the DSM, so you do not have to weld. Vents into intake & atmosphere dual port.

It seems a bit pricey compaired to a regular BoV (around $250 + $54 for DSM 1G Bolt on Flange.. is that flange needed?). The description seems like this could be a 1:1 swap for the stock bpv and should recirc fine so no stumble at low rpm. Added bonus of some vented pshhhh sound too perhaps? (thumb)

Any input or feedback?
 
I have no idea where to get one, honestly. I bought my HKS used from a member on the boards here and he gave it to me with the BOV.
 
MSP2746 said:
That's only to put a first generation BOV on a second generation eclipse, which would probably work for our cars if you use the flange setup at the beginning of this thread. However, you could only use a first gen elcipse BOV on your car then. I know that you can get a flange for a Greddy type-s from http://www.3sxperformance.com for about 30 bucks. The flange for an HKS SSQV is kinda squirrely, since it has a big internal snap ring that holds the BOV in. Has anyone found a supplier for these? Here's what I'm talking about:

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I've never once seen another one of these, but I haven't really been looking that hard either.
 
Whoops, I guess he wanted an eclipse BOV flange. Nevermind on the last post. Anyway, does anyone know where to get the flange in the picture above? That's mine in the picture, I've just gotten a few emails about it and I can't seem to find one anywhere.
 
SpcyOrangeMSP03 said:
O and to the guys running this setup, did u notice any change in yer MPG, mine seems worse.?!
Has anyone tried a dual bpv setup yet? It would be interesting to see how that works out. This thread has changed my mind about things... I may try and get some hardpipes done with that nipple/hole pre done.

Maybe one of those guys that are working on the stock/hard pipe setup can consider adding this hole up? We could maybe have an option to plug it, or use a bov/bpv. hmmm
 
505zoom started out running a dual BPV/BOV setup, then decided to convert the BOV to recirculating. With both valves recirculating, the compressor surge (turkey) came back. He decided that the best compromise was to go back to running a BPV and a BOV. He's running the HKS and I believe the stock BPV, but maybe not anymore. Either way, he did try it and sadly it didn't work. Up until his thread, I had been debating about doing it myself, but it looks like the BOV/BPV setup works the best. I'd be curious to see how running two greddy type-s BOVS recirculated would work, but I aint gonna front the money for it. Here's the link to 505's thread about running dual bypass valves. Very informative, with videos.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52411&highlight=dual+505

As far as gas mileage goes, I haven't noticed a change at all. I drove to Chicago a few weeks ago to install a type-s on a car, and even with some "spirited" driving I still got around 31 miles/gallon. I'm bad about checking each time I fill up, but from the few times I do I get between 26 and 31 miles/gallon. I know that if your greddy type-s is adjusted too loose it will leak and cause bad gas mileage, so maybe look into that. Then again, maybe you're just driving it really hard to make it blow off louder :D. I know I do.
 
Mach 3.5 Turbo said:
505zoom decided that the best compromise was to go back to running a BPV and a BOV. He's running the HKS and I believe the stock BPV, but maybe not anymore. Either way, he did try it and sadly it didn't work.
Actually, if I recall correctly, 505 snagged a new source for his vaccum lines on both diverters, and got rid of the turkey again. I believe he's running dual BPV's and turkey free.

As far as the gas mileage goes, it's probably just because you're getting into boost more often so you can hear the BOV purge :). Same thing happened with me when I got my Injen. I love that raspy spooling sound :).
 
Well if anyone still cares, I did the same setup and got it to work, only I don't have an aftermarket intake. I used a blitz bov and home-depot'ed the flange. I tried it with the bpv connected (as in Mach's setup), and then without it connected (plugged vac hose with golf tee). Not much difference, maybe a bit louder if anything, but it really isn't that loud at all though. I only hear the bov if my windows are up and radio off from inside the car. I mean considering i have no intake and stock psi is single digits, I wasn't expecting much. I'm getting an injen cai within the next 2 weeks. I'm predicting that my bov will sound louder, the turbo spool will sound louder, but I have a feeling that I might get some turkey if i leave the bpv disconnected, which if i do, all i have to do is take out the golf tee and plug it into the connector, no biggie.

For anyone interested in doing this, it's a lot simpler than you expect it to be. My boss (who btw owns a sick evo) helped me out with this, did it all in less than 20 minutes. He was very impressed by the whole method, and would've never thought about doing something like this. The only uncomfortable part about the installation is that he kept making fun of my 6-8psi, compared to his 25. So if you're gonna have someone help you, make sure he has a piece of crap car, and that he knows what he's doing.

I just want to thank Mach and 505 for going through all the trouble. I highly reocmmend this setup to anyone who owns an msp and doesn't want to spend more than 20 bucks + cost of bov. I know everyone just wants the nice pssht sound (which I get now but just isn't loud yet), but you notice such a huge difference in driving. The throttle response is a lot nicer, no overreving, and better take off from the line.

If anyone is interested, i can take pictures of my setup, although i'm sure it won't reveal anything different than Mach's.
 
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benzete said:
Well if anyone still cares, I did the same setup and got it to work, only I don't have an aftermarket intake. I used a blitz bov and home-depot'ed the flange. I tried it with the bpv connected (as in Mach's setup), and then without it connected (plugged vac hose with golf tee). Not much difference, maybe a bit louder if anything, but it really isn't that loud at all though. I only hear the bov if my windows are up and radio off from inside the car. I mean considering i have no intake and stock psi is single digits, I wasn't expecting much. I'm getting an injen cai within the next 2 weeks. I'm predicting that my bov will sound louder, the turbo spool will sound louder, but I have a feeling that I might get some turkey if i leave the bpv disconnected, which if i do, all i have to do is take out the golf tee and plug it into the connector, no biggie.

For anyone interested in doing this, it's a lot simpler than you expect it to be. My boss (who btw owns a sick evo) helped me out with this, did it all in less than 20 minutes. He was very impressed by the whole method, and would've never thought about doing something like this. The only uncomfortable part about the installation is that he kept making fun of my 6-8psi, compared to his 25. So if you're gonna have someone help you, make sure he has a piece of crap car, and that he knows what he's doing.

I just want to thank Mach and 505 for going through all the trouble. I highly reocmmend this setup to anyone who owns an msp and doesn't want to spend more than 20 bucks + cost of bov. I know everyone just wants the nice pssht sound (which I get now but just isn't loud yet), but you notice such a huge difference in driving. The throttle response is a lot nicer, no overreving, and better take off from the line.

If anyone is interested, i can take pictures of my setup, although i'm sure it won't reveal anything different than Mach's.

Wow, I thought no-one would find this thread again. I'm glad other people are taking the harware store approach to fixing the surging problem. Not only does it make me feel like I'm not the only complete cheap-ass here, but maybe one of these aftermarket guys will come up with something to capitolize on the potential of this idea. In all honesty, if there was something out there that worked I never would have started drilling holes in my car. Maybe I should just start putting all the plumbing fixture pieces together in paper bags and sell them on ebay as a kit. Hmmmmmm . . .

For anyone who wants an update, I'm pretty sure that the epoxy and all that stuff is holding up. I'm actually in Germany right now, and have been for about 5 months, but one of my friends drives my car occaisonally to keep it wound up tight for me when I get back and he tells me it's all good. So far, it's lasted about 20,000 miles and survived two winters without breakin off. Has anyone had any problems with this setup? I drove up to Chicago to install this in a member's car a while back, but I don't remember his screen name and I've lost all his contact information. If you're reading this, is it still working? How's chi-town? God Damn, I miss American Pizza.
 

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