how slow is your p 5

[sleepwalker]

Unless its a Honda b h j or f series motor you will never have a fast NA car, my 323 pulls on my protege with ease on stock boost which is 8 psi in a 1.6. Actually even bone stock it made more power than a protege and that was back in 88. And in pretty sure my dpfi d15b2 ef civic tht was straight piped an had bad piston rings would have pulled in the protege, although it only weighed 2100 lbs, if that

A protege is slow a neon is slow end of story and unless you boost it, it will be slow. There is no fixing it without boosting it, as they don't like nitrous

http://www.motorsport.com/drag/news/scott-mohler-mopar-spotlight/

Mohler's '98 Dodge Neon is powered by a naturally aspirated Mopar 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The vehicle turns out approximately 310 horsepower to the wheels, along with an estimated 220 ft.-lbs. of torque. Mohler shifts a stock 2002 Neon R/T five-speed manual transmission in the car. Other stock Mopar components used in the car include the engine block, crankshaft, fasteners, rocker arms, hydraulic lifters, and all gaskets and seals. With this plethora of original equipment Mopar parts, the 2.4-liter motor achieves a compression ratio of 16.5:1 and redlines at 10,000 rpm.

Clearly the exception and not the norm, but still. You can be fast without boost in a Neon.

 

[Installshield 2]

^16.5:1 compression??? is it direct injection or something? Who the hell tuned that haha?

 

[tweety2300]

And redlining at 10k rpms I would love to see a dyno sheet and see how horrible the power curve is

 

[hotcracker69]

I have a stock protege5 with 210k on it. all original and i can definitely keep up in traffic and most modern 4 cyl. not as fast but not to the point to call it slow, I think there is something else wrong with your car.

 

[codex]

You don't know slow until you drive a 1.6 Protege.. haha.

 

[tweety2300]

I have a stock protege5 with 210k on it. all original and i can definitely keep up in traffic and most modern 4 cyl. not as fast but not to the point to call it slow, I think there is something else wrong with your car.

Maybe you should drive something fast? Not trying to be an ass but at the end of the day the protgs are slow.

 

[Installshield 2]

And redlining at 10k rpms I would love to see a dyno sheet and see how horrible the power curve is

if it really is running 16.5:1 compression...you might be surprised...that much compression will make some pretty ridiculous low end torque...i'd bet that engine very much is 'peaky'...as the upper power curve will start to go straight up at a certain rev range...but compression that high; i'd make a strong bet it makes a lot more low end than we'd be expecting...

if the 220lb/ft of torque is true...thats a very large amount of torque for even a 2.4 cylinder engine...granted, that is probably at 7,000 rpm or something...but i bet that is one of the more driveable 10,000 rpm engines out there...

i'm more interested in who..or what...tuned it...16.5:1 with pump gas and regular sequential injection...nightmare...at least i'd imagine...

 

[hotcracker69]

Maybe you should drive something fast? Not trying to be an ass but at the end of the day the protgs are slow.

I actually own Porsche 911 4s, now that is fast

but when i drive a 4 cyl the car drives like a 4 cyl. if you expecting the protege to be ass fast a mustang there might be something wrong with your expectation

 

[Installshield 2]

I actually own Porsche 911 4s, now that is fast

but when i drive a 4 cyl the car drives like a 4 cyl. if you expecting the protege to be ass fast a mustang there might be something wrong with your expectation

nice, what year?

I have a '82 928 5 speed manual. 4.5L SOHC 16v V-8 with factory euro 'club' computer/Bosch injection control and euro club exhaust...I never dyno'd it, but similar mods on the same year 928's put out nearly 400lb/ft of torque, and brought power up over 300whp...instantly removing most of the US emissions stuff related to early 80's sports cars...pretty fun car when it runs, it'll squirm the rear 225/50's loose at 20mph in 5th gear...

it has electrical issues though...big time...probably why 31 years later it only has 40,000 miles...pretty nuts though, AC still works, both power seats...the damn thing has a leather roof liner haha.

 

[tweety2300]

I actually own Porsche 911 4s, now that is fast

but when i drive a 4 cyl the car drives like a 4 cyl. if you expecting the protege to be ass fast a mustang there might be something wrong with your expectation

No offense at all ( I own one) if you think a mustang is fast something is wrong with your expectations.

 

[Jackie chan]

Protege gearing is a bit weird a well, 40 in 1st 65 in 2nd and 85 in 3rd and its still slow 60-80 in 3rd lol

I can barely hit like 27 mph in first. Almost 40 in Second, 60 in third, close to 80 in fourth, and not much past that.

It's Really slow.

Will I get a cel for a clogged cat?

 

[tweety2300]

I'm talking about speeds off the rev limiter...

 

[Jackie chan]

Me too...

Just kidding.
It does seem slower than it should be though.

There is a ton of vids on YouTube of stock or close to stock proteges that are all way faster than mine.

Most every one I've seen can get past 30 in first.

There is a 0-95 mph video posted of a protege with just an intake and catback that was crazy fast compared to mine.

I can barely hit 95... and it would be a sad video if it were mine....

 

[tweety2300]

Pull your cats out and see if they're clogged. Are you sure you wasn't watching an msp?

 

[stevew145]

Go record yourself doing a 0-60 or higher run and post it on youtube, then post a link here. A protege5 stock will get around 8.5-9 seconds depending on how fat your ass is. Even with all the bolt ons you can think of, without cracking the engine open you'll be lucky to get 7 seconds. With a msp turbo + all boltons ~10 psi and a tune you can get 5.5-6 seconds. Thats where I am now.

 

[DOMO]

you dont know slow untill you have own a corolla.... that was my last car and i could barley break 110kmph/70mph on the highway even a full throttle. the protege aint fast but there are far slower cars out there so enjoy what you got..

 

[lowlevel]

Neon..

DOHC's hit their power peak above 6000rpm (I can't remember the exact point but it was above 6000 and might've been above 6500) which is well higher than the 3-speed hydraulic ATX would shift; essentially with a DOHC and an ATX, you *never* would reach your peak power. SOHC's were nearly perfect for the ATX - but still not as fast as either engine with a manual.

Yeah, I also had a first-gen DOHC automatic neon... the engine really wanted to spin and that awful automatic was just a poor match... I still kind of miss that car... *shrug*

 

[rit14623]

Protege5 runs like a plain Honda Civic LX. I've been in a MSP. It was faster with a driver and three adult passengers than a Protege5 with only the driver.
I don't know, if you look at power to weight ratio, it's not a sluggish minivan but it's not an Integra GSR.

 

[tweety2300]

Ummm I've been outrun by minivans...

Also an accord ex. I'm pretty even with a civic lx non vtec though and I have 10 hp over a regular protege

 

[Installshield 2]

using my elm 327 bluetooth thing coupled with torque pro on my phone...0-60 wise last night i was able to break 7 seconds on 4 out of 6 runs...6.86 was the fastest, and 3 6.9x times...with two just above 7 flat...the road was peppered with gravel from the salt trucks, too...I know thats not a full proof measurement, but it uses GPS and acceleration sensor tracking...and this was back and fourth on the same road...after doing the 'track test' where i roll along it while the gps detects elevation change...less than 5 feet disparity over the 1/8th mile i drove along.

granted, that was with less than a half tank of gas...but still had a spare and ~35lb sub box...Still slow, but could be worse...