Are they all black or just two of them?Pretzellogic said:Update: just pulled the plugs. They are as black as night. As I'm working off of my girlfriends schedule, I have to wait for her to come pack with her car so I can go get oil and brake cleaner. I suppose I ought to change the filter while I'm at it.
It was the Non Chlorinate, it was just so damn cold.YP5 Toronto said:Doh...
Non Chlorinate Brake cleaner is the only one to use...
....make sure the GF's car is running when you jump.
Glad to hear that he got the car running again. Cold temps suck!YP5 Toronto said:Once this is all done.... future cold climate users will not have issues.
Why would there be more fuel, I would think he would take some out to help the rich condition.YP5 Toronto said:the reason was the maps were not tuned for the colder weather.. .Juan is sending him a whole new ECU to swap. The new ECU has a bit MORE fuel added via the coolant and air temp maps (this is my assumption). Pretz did not have a laptop to load new maps...so Juan went the extra step further and sent him a new ECU.
There is nothing wrong with the system... Juan does not have the benefit of being able to LIVE tune his kit in cold conditions. outside of finding a freezer that with fit a P5 and being able to use this freezer over a course of a few days... Juan is working with the various cold climate users in (including me) in testing out new maps.
Once this is all done.... future cold climate users will not have issues.
Oh no, I wasn't trying to say you're slackers. I was just saying it would be a better tune if it was done in the cold climate. Yeah, the holidays suck when it comes to your car and tuning. I still have my ECU laying on the floor, because I'm trying new things, but I havn't had the time to do anything because of the shopping and stuff that needs to be done. Good luck with it anyway.YP5 Toronto said:In cold weather.... you need more fuel...what fuel is being sent out the nozzles...is NOT vaporizing properly and staying in liquid form and collecting on the walls of the cyclinders.
"Y" amount a fuel for warm weather is not equal to the fuel needed for the colder temps, you need to add more to compinsate.
I have been reworking my fuel maps...and Juan is recieving them.
The trick is that you have ONE opportunity to fool around with the map... after the first few tries...the parameters are no longer the same because the intial tries have added some fuel to the cyclinder. You have ONE chance each morning to retest changes you amke to a map.
Plus...I don't always have time to fool around with my laptop and the Haltech while dressed in a suit and dress shoes before work each morning. I try to play with the maps on the weekend...but again... who has time in December.
So.. its not as easy as you think it is... so please do not assume people are sitting on their ass...
I know it sucks to tune for cold starts. This is why we feel you should run extra injectors and not bigger ones. his way the car starts up like stock. We tune the stock injectors mostly for boost then add all the fuel we need with the extra injectors. Cold start, hot start or any other start is as good as stock.YP5 Toronto said:Plus...I don't always have time to fool around with my laptop and the Haltech while dressed in a suit and dress shoes before work each morning. I try to play with the maps on the weekend...but again... who has time in December.
So.. its not as easy as you think it is... so please do not assume people are sitting on their ass...
The only thing that the system need is tuning in cold weather... IMO cold start issues with larger/stock injectors vs Perfect Starting with an extra injector setup is negligable..... you give Juan and others like me a little more time and there will not be any cold starting problems.MPNick said:I know it sucks to tune for cold starts. This is why we feel you should run extra injectors and not bigger ones. his way the car starts up like stock. We tune the stock injectors mostly for boost then add all the fuel we need with the extra injectors. Cold start, hot start or any other start is as good as stock.
Explain.Focus said:Maybe a shot of Qwik Start ?
Pretzellogic said:It happened again! Car won't start. It's not even a particularly cold day, so I'm looking for some sort of cause and preventative measure. It's currently in the high twenties. I really don't want to have to take everything apart and do it over again.
Anyone know a trick togetting this thing started?
My God, am I pissed off right now.
