Head Work and Custom Cams

sorry guys, mis-understanding. i didnt want to get forged internals now because i will be getting them for turbo down the track.

i will be staying NA for atleast the next 1.5-2 years. in that time i'll be getting cam gears (getting them in the GB now), haltech ecu, intake manifold made up, flywheel, knife edge the crank....and basically make the engine unbreakable for when i go turbo. i want to be able to just put it almost straight on and off i go.

so yes, i guess i'll be the NA testing factory until then
 
ill be your double check then here in the states =P

since my plans are damn similar to that,

have a ractive 4-1 header on order since for the price and the fact I also plan on staying N/A for 1-1.5 yrs it is worth it. catback system which I know I will have to change out for a bigger one but again, the deal is worth the time I will be staying N/A

I also want to do custom cams and cam gears but I havent decided on the headwork/valvework or manifold polishing/flowing.

I have a possible hookup to get an extra cylinder head cheap and if I dont sell it I can use that.

eventually would like to build around to 140-160whp N/A, maybe try that new spool stage 2.4 stand alone FMU, see if I can get maps made for N/a and then just get it reprogrammed when I go F/I.

total with boost Id like to hit 200-225whp.

but as usually if and when I get there I will probably want more.

forged rods at the end of the N/a buildup and forged lower comp pistons for the boost.
 
With all the work some have done how can you make any real gains without tuning the ECU. Stand alones systems are alot of work and alot of money to tune right.

With our MPI Tuner you can control eveything you need, spark, fuel, VTCS, plus alot more. You do not need to rewire the whole car plus no CELs.

We have been looking to do some testing on a big cam head setup. Please let me know if anyone is near NJ

Thanks again


Later...........Nick
 
MPNick said:
With all the work some have done how can you make any real gains without tuning the ECU. Stand alones systems are alot of work and alot of money to tune right.

With our MPI Tuner you can control eveything you need, spark, fuel, VTCS, plus alot more. You do not need to rewire the whole car plus no CELs.

We have been looking to do some testing on a big cam head setup. Please let me know if anyone is near NJ

Thanks again


Later...........Nick
please quit the bs
 
YOU KNOW WHAT LET ME EDIT THAT
You can keep up that BS all you want. You want a war you got it bud.
Get an authorized vending permit here and then we will see
I have had enough of your lies.
 
MPNick said:
With all the work some have done how can you make any real gains without tuning the ECU. Stand alones systems are alot of work and alot of money to tune right.

With our MPI Tuner you can control eveything you need, spark, fuel, VTCS, plus alot more. You do not need to rewire the whole car plus no CELs.

We have been looking to do some testing on a big cam head setup. Please let me know if anyone is near NJ

Thanks again


Later...........Nick


Please answer my question in the other thread....
 
It is some kind of ECU upgrade. but the credible info goes down hill from there. I am not even clear on what category it falls under. I believe it is a parallel system that runs along side the Factory ECU, but gains control of the timing and fuel. The claims range from high load closed loop with a stock O2 sensor, to full controll of the stock injectors + control of bigger ones. but most of the claims do not get adequately back up. I will dig up some threads where it gets some what explained, but don't hope for some awesomely cool detailed information on how exactly it works...you will find some "happy customers", but the ones I have seen can't explain it any better either...IMO the system (or providers for that matter) are shady at best...
 
gotta love the haltech, does it all, and all out of melbourne??(i think) australia!!

andrew, don't your insurance company hate you already??
 
akhilleus said:
what the f--k is goin on. Is the MPi tuner for real or is it bulls*** and why. Has it been used already?

Well you can look at it two ways and then make your own choice.

First the MPI Tuner is for real, we use it on all types of cars. All of the Fords, Mazdas, Neons, Vipers, WRX, Honda's, BMWs, and the Porsche line. We use it to do all types of tuning on these cars.

I have talked about what the MPI Tuner can do all over this list and I have talked about why it does the things it can do. I have sent people our PDF tuning manual that shows you how to use the system. Still the same few thread stalkers keep coming back with the same BS. Now not one of them have ever used the MPI Tuner, they do not like it and or me, that is life.

When my customers come on and post how great the MPI Tuner works, the thread stalkers then down play this. The facts are that the MPI Tuner it is doing as I say and my customers who have it are getting the results they what. You can ask any of my customers and they will telling how great it works. We can go on and on with what this BS. My customers and I who use it say yes it can do all that I say and the thread stalkers who have never used it say it cannot all I say. So you can make your own mind up on who is a better judge of if the MPI Tuner works or not. On one side you have people with MPI Tuner that use it and love it. On the dark side you have a few thread stalkers who have never used it but can come on here and say that it will not work.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick
 
MPNick said:
Well you can look at it two ways and then make your own choice.

First the MPI Tuner is for real, we use it on all types of cars. All of the Fords, Mazdas, Neons, Vipers, WRX, Honda's, BMWs, and the Porsche line. We use it to do all types of tuning on these cars.

I have talked about what the MPI Tuner can do all over this list and I have talked about why it does the things it can do. I have sent people our PDF tuning manual that shows you how to use the system. Still the same few thread stalkers keep coming back with the same BS. Now not one of them have ever used the MPI Tuner, they do not like it and or me, that is life.

When my customers come on and post how great the MPI Tuner works, the thread stalkers then down play this. The facts are that the MPI Tuner it is doing as I say and my customers who have it are getting the results they what. You can ask any of my customers and they will telling how great it works. We can go on and on with what this BS. My customers and I who use it say yes it can do all that I say and the thread stalkers who have never used it say it cannot all I say. So you can make your own mind up on who is a better judge of if the MPI Tuner works or not. On one side you have people with MPI Tuner that use it and love it. On the dark side you have a few thread stalkers who have never used it but can come on here and say that it will not work.


Thanks again


Later..........Nick

[off topic]
I stalk you through threads because you cannot explain to me or anyone else for that matter how the MPI Tuner does what it does...

You run around here and church it up, that's for sure. But you have yet to say it does what it does. You have yet to answer my question that I have posted twice now in the other thread and Micah supposedly brought to you directly to answer.

This leads me to believe that you don't know what the MPI Tuner does, or how it does it. Neither do your customers.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again here, if it works that is great for you. All I am asking is how does get around the ECU when you do not clamp the voltage to the O2 sensor? Closed loop on boost situations will go lean in that situation without some sort of voltage clamp on the O2 sensor. THIS IS A PROVEN FACT!

It is also something you refuse to talk about. Which leads me to believe that you don't know what it does.

On top of that, it leaves me to guess about what it does and all I can come up with is that the MPI Tuner is a glorified extra injector controller that blocks the CEL signal from the ECU and then resets the ECU everytime you get a CEL because you piss off the ECU by dumping in so much fuel after it has already pulled the 30% of fuel it can.

And that of course brings us to the open loop switch if you are at partial throttle on boost and then go into open loop for some reason. What happens? The ECU switches to a fixed table, and since your MPI Tuner relies on the O2 sensor, it can't keep up with that switch and might drown the motor in fuel.

I suppose instead of asking my question, my new question is can you even answer it?
[/off topic]

Sorry, but I'm tired of this guy coming on here and boasting about how wonderful his product is when he doesn't even explain how it works. All he says is ask his customers. He never answers any questions about how it works...

twilightprotege - Go with the Haltech, or you can wait to see what Link comes out with.
 
Yes he forgets to mention that the only way he enriches the fuel system is with extra injectors. It cat do everything he says. Sorry but it has been proven time and time again. There are good points and bad about the system. If anyone has any questions on it you can Pm me. I can shed some light on those who DONT know how it works.
Some dont get how complicated this ecu is on the protege here in america.
 
ahb11m - the main haltech factory is in sydney i think, but they have big offices all around. there's a main shop in brisbane. and my insurance company? i work for suncorp ;) hehehehehehehe

all - yeah i'd be very interested to see what a stand alone can do, esp with how rich our cars run. if i would get that down there's a bit of power straight there. plus better timing, higher rev limit....it's sounding good!
 
perfworks said:
Yes he forgets to mention that the only way he enriches the fuel system is with extra injectors. It cat do everything he says. Sorry but it has been proven time and time again. There are good points and bad about the system. If anyone has any questions on it you can Pm me. I can shed some light on those who DONT know how it works.
Some dont get how complicated this ecu is on the protege here in america.


I am not sure where this info comes from, it does not come from using it.

We have been working with Ford the computer longer then most people. We started with the 2.3 turbo back in the early 80s. We know how the EEC-V computer works. The Mazda is a Ford EEC-V computer. We are weeks away from flashing our own customer programs.

We have total control of the fuel and spark curve. We can add fuel anywhere we need to and we can also advance or retard timing anywhere, as much or as little as you need. We have them running on turbo Mazdas right now, all of the people running them love them.


Thanks again


Later...........Nick
 
MPNick said:
I am not sure where this info comes from, it does not come from using it.

We have been working with Ford the computer longer then most people. We started with the 2.3 turbo back in the early 80s. We know how the EEC-V computer works. The Mazda is a Ford EEC-V computer. We are weeks away from flashing our own customer programs.

We have total control of the fuel and spark curve. We can add fuel anywhere we need to and we can also advance or retard timing anywhere, as much or as little as you need. We have them running on turbo Mazdas right now, all of the people running them love them.


Thanks again


Later...........Nick


Who?? Who is running your flashed programs?

By saying this, you are implying that you have "cracked" the programming language used on the Mazda Protege ECU.

Have you?

It doesn't matter what the box is, it's the programming inside that is different. That has been covered as well. It is the EEC-V outside, but the inside is supposedly different.

Or, have you figured out Ford's programming and are putting flashed Ford programs in to run the Protege?
 
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