Flame thrower exhaust
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mountjonas
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- 2013 VRM MS3
i heard your can't run catalytic converters if you put on a flamethrower kit
Well, if you know the right people, you won't have to worry about emissions. Of course I don't support that at all. I didn't even know that they made a kit that could actually do that. All I knew was that if you do something with your timing you could have the flamethrower affect. I can't exactly remember what that was though because I'm tired. I'll get back to you on that one!
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- 02 1500 4x4, mp3
as far as i know its a sprkplug that goes inside you muffler...saw it on TRUCKS!....TNN is cool...
ghetto waggon
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- 2003 Protege5, Yellow.
I saw it on TV also,
they replaced the ECU and added a "flame kit" to a VW.
Looked cool!
they replaced the ECU and added a "flame kit" to a VW.
Looked cool!
Ok, I remember what it was now. It was a misfire system. It has something to do with your cam gears. If you tune it or in this case de-tune it a certain way you would cause misfire which would help slow your car down to gain better handling on mountain roads.
(Saw that one on "Initial D"
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(Saw that one on "Initial D"
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Well, the spark plug trick is a little grass roots style, but the misfire system is a logical system. I just don't find the logic in it if you're wanting to hit people up at stoplights or on the freeway. If you were to go on a downhill race and you're car goes too fast to handle, a misfire system would be nice. But since Mazdas have superior suspension, you don't have to worry about that.
Remember, to each his own.
Remember, to each his own.
TURBO3WAGON
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I'll bet if I pulg the exhaust into my (butt) with a spark plug I could make some bad ass flames!
On the Misfire system:
It is not used to slow the car down instead it only really works on Turbo applications and is used to help in speed.
In a nutshell it works like this:
Actually known as a Anti-Lag System (ALS) it works by first running rich then retards the ignition timing. With the delayed ignition timing some of the air fuel misture being vented into the exhaust ignites. This serves to helping keep the turbo spooled up with the drive lifts off the throttle.
However this really cause stress on the motor and greatly reduces the life of the engine.
It is not used to slow the car down instead it only really works on Turbo applications and is used to help in speed.
In a nutshell it works like this:
Actually known as a Anti-Lag System (ALS) it works by first running rich then retards the ignition timing. With the delayed ignition timing some of the air fuel misture being vented into the exhaust ignites. This serves to helping keep the turbo spooled up with the drive lifts off the throttle.
However this really cause stress on the motor and greatly reduces the life of the engine.
Hmm,
Why don't you try what Turbo3wagon suggested? J/K
I don't exactly know how it's done, but if you cut a section of your pipe and make a clamp or flange containing the spark plug it might work.
Pipe Flange Spark Plug Pipe
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I don't know what I'm talking about anymore!
Try going to askjeeves.com
That's where I usually go when I can't find the answers to my questions. Sorry!
Why don't you try what Turbo3wagon suggested? J/K
I don't exactly know how it's done, but if you cut a section of your pipe and make a clamp or flange containing the spark plug it might work.
Pipe Flange Spark Plug Pipe
=============//==+==//==========
I don't know what I'm talking about anymore!
Try going to askjeeves.com
That's where I usually go when I can't find the answers to my questions. Sorry!
flat_black
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The flame thrower thing... Which probably won't work too well on this car, given the lack of fuel fumes in the exhaust, used to be done by tapping out a hole in the tailpipe, and putting a spark plug in, running to a switch connected to a twelve volt current. Mash the throttle, gas vapors push out, and get ignited by the spark. This will almost definitly destroy the muffler, too, as the flame will also spread the other way.
Rally ALS/Misfiring systems are a no-go for the streets. Highly illegal, heavy poloution, and your exhaust system will be burned out after only 100 miles, but misfiring systems are also only for turbo's... When you let off the throttle, timing is retarded to about 20ish degrees, and it pushes gas out on the exhast stroke so it's in the exhaust manifold, in front of the turbocharger's impeller, then is ignited by the latent spark. That keeps the blades spinning nice and fast as you get off the throttle, negating the affect of turbo lag by backpressure against the intake impellers. *whew*
That being said; Get a kit and try it. All it is is a spark plug with a switch. Perhaps a pezio igniter like in a lighter rather than a spark plug, but same idea. Definitly not worth it for the damage it can cause.
Rally ALS/Misfiring systems are a no-go for the streets. Highly illegal, heavy poloution, and your exhaust system will be burned out after only 100 miles, but misfiring systems are also only for turbo's... When you let off the throttle, timing is retarded to about 20ish degrees, and it pushes gas out on the exhast stroke so it's in the exhaust manifold, in front of the turbocharger's impeller, then is ignited by the latent spark. That keeps the blades spinning nice and fast as you get off the throttle, negating the affect of turbo lag by backpressure against the intake impellers. *whew*
That being said; Get a kit and try it. All it is is a spark plug with a switch. Perhaps a pezio igniter like in a lighter rather than a spark plug, but same idea. Definitly not worth it for the damage it can cause.
REmillers and Flat_black,
Thank you very much for that wonderful explanation! I was always wondering how exactly it worked!
Thank you very much for that wonderful explanation! I was always wondering how exactly it worked!
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ghetto waggon
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- 2003 Protege5, Yellow.
http://www.hotrodsetc.net/flamekit.html
watch the mpg's of them...it's not as dramatic as I wouldve thought.
Looks cool though. And s***, for $80 i'd try it on my old '90 dodge dynasty
*can't be used with cat's *
watch the mpg's of them...it's not as dramatic as I wouldve thought.
Looks cool though. And s***, for $80 i'd try it on my old '90 dodge dynasty
*can't be used with cat's *
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heh, you guys have to try awfully hard to get flames out of your exhust...
buy an Rx7, and run it hard... you'll shoot fire on damn near every downshift... they just do that.
My firend has a 650 double pumper on a N/A 13b that spits out about 3 feet of flame... even more when he's running ~112 octane...
buy an Rx7, and run it hard... you'll shoot fire on damn near every downshift... they just do that.
My firend has a 650 double pumper on a N/A 13b that spits out about 3 feet of flame... even more when he's running ~112 octane...
