Fast E/T's

[mazdaspeed32007]

way back in this huge thread i saw someone said you wont shave .5 with just a CAI. im not sure about that because even though this wasnt proven with a MS3 yet i have a friend with a CAI and Exhaust on his MS6 and he went from the stock 14.1 to a 13.2. He has the time slip and if you want to see it im sure i can get it for you but thats almost a full second with just the CAI and exhaust. your looking at about a .5 for each mod. since this is the same engine your looking the same HP increase. just harder to get a better launch time due to the FWD but i think you could hit a sick time with a CAi and exhaust upgrade given you know how to launch correctly. maybe a 1/4 mile time of lets say....13.5/6

 

[BoostedSpd6]

way back in this huge thread i saw someone said you wont shave .5 with just a CAI. im not sure about that because even though this wasnt proven with a MS3 yet i have a friend with a CAI and Exhaust on his MS6 and he went from the stock 14.1 to a 13.2. He has the time slip and if you want to see it im sure i can get it for you but thats almost a full second with just the CAI and exhaust. your looking at about a .5 for each mod. since this is the same engine your looking the same HP increase. just harder to get a better launch time due to the FWD but i think you could hit a sick time with a CAi and exhaust upgrade given you know how to launch correctly. maybe a 1/4 mile time of lets say....13.5/6

ok yes i ran a 13.294 with a CAI and full custom turbo back exhaust.. but i had race gas in it, and i lightened her up a bit too. also that 13.6 run i saw a while back isnt out of the question for u guys at all. i dont know why people are calling bulls*** on it i mean common look at the numbers were running over on the 6 side with the stock turbo. 13.2's 1's i saw a 12.9 up there in a thread... and u guys are lighter then us too, if u (launch correctly) and dont suck at driving.. im sure its not out of the question to pull a 13.6.


and my time slip is over in the 6 section.. 1/4 mile times thread... for all of you non belivers...

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

i dont know why people are calling bulls*** on it i mean common look at the numbers were running over on the 6 side with the stock turbo. 13.2's 1's i saw a 12.9 up there in a thread... and u guys are lighter then us too, if u (launch correctly) and dont suck at driving.. im sure its not out of the question to pull a 13.6.

see thats what im talking about. with a CAI, exhaust, and a top mount they're running 12.9 and even better. with the same motor the time cant be so much worse because we weight 700 lbs less than the 6. i call drivers error for people who have a CAI and run a freakin 14.1 or 14.2. the official data spec sheet for the speed3 is a 14.0 bone stock. i saw that 13.9 also from earlier in the thread and thats totally doable. (he's just a really good driver is all.) check this out. i found it on another thread and online somewhere.

and your running 14.1-2's with a CAI.....come on....wtf???

 

[laloosh]

im not questioning the et people, im questioning the trap speed. Dont bash untill you actually go to the track, i KNOW how to launch this car, i get low 2.1 60s in it, and still only went 13.9 @ 100 with a cai and hollowed out cat. A 13.2 @ 109 is not possible with just a cai

 

[WickedMZR]

see thats what im talking about. with a CAI, exhaust, and a top mount they're running 12.9 and even better. with the same motor the time cant be so much worse because we weight 700 lbs less than the 6. i call drivers error for people who have a CAI and run a freakin 14.1 or 14.2. the official data spec sheet for the speed3 is a 14.0 bone stock. i saw that 13.9 also from earlier in the thread and thats totally doable. (he's just a really good driver is all.) check this out. i found it on another thread and online somewhere.

and your running 14.1-2's with a CAI.....come on....wtf???

So since you are calling just about every MS3 owner a crappy driver where are YOUR times? (enguard)

The advantage of AWD at the strip is much greater than the extra weight that they carry. A drag race between similarly powered cars is won in the first 60ft.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

So since you are calling just about every MS3 owner a crappy driver where are YOUR times? (enguard)

The advantage of AWD at the strip is much greater than the extra weight that they carry. A drag race between similarly powered cars is won in the first 60ft.

i ran a 14.1 with my naturally aspirated honda prelude with only a cold air and 140,000 miles. no proof because i did it years ago but i assure you of this. that was only with about 210 HP and the car weighted approx 26-2700 lbs.

once i get my exhaust ill run it at the track a few weekends after and let you know for sure dont worry about that.

theres people on here already that ran a 13.7 with only a CAI. 0-60 foot time have been proven by people under 2.2 seconds. your telling me that with a 2.2 0-60 ft time, 250/260 WHP and 300 fpt, your not able to hit a 13.7???!!! come on now. if you think thats out of the ball park shoot me now because i bought a piece of crap. the srt-4 hits that and with our CAI i know we can do better than the srt-4 or at least equal to it.

 

[funkyman]

Its not that we are crappy drivers.Its the gear mate,its a bit twitchy and sticky.It just doesn`t want to go in gear sometimes.Especially 1 to 2 and 2 to 3.We need a brand new short shifter.Then it might be a little better.

 

[WickedMZR]

i ran a 14.1 with my naturally aspirated honda prelude with only a cold air and 140,000 miles. no proof because i did it years ago but i assure you of this. that was only with about 210 HP and the car weighted approx 26-2700 lbs.

once i get my exhaust ill run it at the track a few weekends after and let you know for sure dont worry about that.

theres people on here already that ran a 13.7 with only a CAI. 0-60 foot time have been proven by people under 2.2 seconds. your telling me that with a 2.2 0-60 ft time, 250/260 WHP and 300 fpt, your not able to hit a 13.7???!!! come on now. if you think thats out of the ball park shoot me now because i bought a piece of crap. the srt-4 hits that and with our CAI i know we can do better than the srt-4 or at least equal to it.

I'm not arguing anything about times, I fully expect to see mid 13's soon since my only two passes in the car are at 90+ degrees. As I said much earlier in this thread the car is wholly capable of a 13.7 despite the heat, but to get it there would mean driving it at 10/10ths, which is fine if you've got bucket loads of cash if you break it (or having no moral dilema ripping off Mazda). As the old school racers saying goes, never put a car on the track that you can't afford to lose.

About your Lude nice times, a little hard to believe but I'll bite...but why did you bring up something like that if you can't prove it? You seem like you're trolling for a flame war.

 

[laloosh]

for all you people that think this car shoudl run xx.xx @ xxx.xx your in for a big surpise. As for the 14.1 honda guy, let me guess cai, stripped on drag radials right? Thats about THE ONLY WAY possible that car ran that time.
All you guys hoping for mid 13s are in for a rude awaking once u actually drive the car at the 1/4.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

for all you people that think this car shoudl run xx.xx @ xxx.xx your in for a big surpise. As for the 14.1 honda guy, let me guess cai, stripped on drag radials right? Thats about THE ONLY WAY possible that car ran that time.
All you guys hoping for mid 13s are in for a rude awaking once u actually drive the car at the 1/4.

the prelude was a 1994 vtec with a CAI and a dc short shifter and a chip to kill the rev limit so i could run it up to about 9 grand. oddly the thing was faster than normal. i cant explain it but it was like if i raced the same model and year i def would have won. i had a high octane fuel...101. that was it. i didnt mean to start a brawl about that by bringing it up. i was just using it as an example. and just to make it more realistic i shifted into 2nd 3/4 down the track the first time while trying to shift into 4th....ouch! can you say 11 thousand rpms. lol. alright.

im glad we all can compromise that this car has better potential than some of these numbers (except the 13.6 at 89), theres only a select few reasons why people would run a 14 with a CAI, and i b**** about it but havent run my car at the track yet so i should have waited to say anything at all so i can back my s*** up....shhhh. (shady)

 

[laloosh]

now i totally lost all hope in you....you went from 3rd to 2nd and the engine was still alive? LMAO yea right. REving to 9 grand on stock springs in a 94 lude...once again lmao. I dont even believe you for ONE second that you ran a 14.1 with a intake and a "chip" btw wtf is a chip, like an ebay chip? 30hp for 99 cents ftw. in order to hit a 14.1 your car needs to trap waht a stock ms3 does, so your telling me that your 94 lude with mad tyte 3rd gear vtec is as fast as a stock ms3? LMAO one last time

 

[controlo]

now i totally lost all hope in you....you went from 3rd to 2nd and the engine was still alive? LMAO yea right. REving to 9 grand on stock springs in a 94 lude...once again lmao. I dont even believe you for ONE second that you ran a 14.1 with a intake and a "chip" btw wtf is a chip, like an ebay chip? 30hp for 99 cents ftw. in order to hit a 14.1 your car needs to trap waht a stock ms3 does, so your telling me that your 94 lude with mad tyte 3rd gear vtec is as fast as a stock ms3? LMAO one last time

haha. dude, just let it go...

just let it go...

haha.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

haha. dude, just let it go...

just let it go...

haha.

first off the chip was to stop the rev limit which was at if i remember correctly 7500. i would run it to about 9 grand before i shifted. believe what you want though, just informing you. no my engine didnt blow up. drive a vtec prelude, beat the s*** out of it then come talk to me. god that pisses me off that you dont believe me and i dont know why. i used to run the motor hard and high.
second, that was the 1st time i raced a car never mind took it to the track. i think i was 16 or 17 which would have made it about....8 years ago and a half a year after i got my license. you can blast on me all you want but it makes for one of those stories where your embarassed but its funny. sorry i still dont have the slip. i usually dont keep things like that in my fire safe. like i said. believe what you want. its fine with me. my point wasnt whether i can convince you what my prelude ran when i was 16. it was the ms3 car is better than a 14.1 with a CAI. it can beat my old prelude and people arent proving it at any cost. thats what makes people with evos and stis stomp all over us. i was reading an evo forum last night and the ms3 was brought up in it. they were blasting the ms3 because we can only hit a 14 stock. now people are hitting a 14.1-2 with a CAI? i know we could beat them or at least give them a huge run for the money off a roll with just a CAI. they may beat us off the dig but thats a given with the AWD. but a low 14 with mods on this car is taking the car back a step. youve gotta see where i was going with this dick headed aside.

 

[jhowey]

The car is capable of hitting 14.0 stk just needs to be ideal conditions and someone who actually has learned how to adequatly launch the car. Somewhere I swear I saw a 13.8 or something with just CAI.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4RnHqc2GlY
here a 13.6 @ 103 with only a cai. If you go to his site you can see the guy appears toh ave done at least 50 passes with the car lol.


this is his website. As you can see he wetn 13.4 @ 108
http://mazdaspeed3.monchar.com/
who knows what mod....

"All you guys hoping for mid 13s are in for a rude awaking once u actually drive the car at the 1/4."

thats two contradictory posts....

im not saying that everyone can get a 13.6 but something close to it isnt out of the question.

 

[laloosh]

listen paper racer. to run a 14.1 you need to trap at least 98-100mph, no 94 prelude vtec is going to hit that kinda trap speed with just an intake on a rev limit cut (the engine actaully looses power). The guy running a 13.6 @ 103 is full of s***, he nows claim to run 13.2 @ 109 with only a cai and no weight reduction, do you actaully read the link i provide? My car has a cai and im a pretty good driver. 2.12 60 foot time and it went 13.9 @ 100. Sorry buddy ure not going to be running much lower 60 foots than that without drag radials or slicks. BUT WAIT let me buy a 94 lude and put an intake on it, than ill add a pulley and run 13.5s in it all day.(jerkit)

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

listen paper racer. to run a 14.1 you need to trap at least 98-100mph, no 94 prelude vtec is going to hit that kinda trap speed with just an intake on a rev limit cut (the engine actaully looses power). The guy running a 13.6 @ 103 is full of s***, he nows claim to run 13.2 @ 109 with only a cai and no weight reduction, do you actaully read the link i provide? My car has a cai and im a pretty good driver. 2.12 60 foot time and it went 13.9 @ 100. Sorry buddy ure not going to be running much lower 60 foots than that without drag radials or slicks. BUT WAIT let me buy a 94 lude and put an intake on it, than ill add a pulley and run 13.5s in it all day.(jerkit)

wow because i said 13.5 buddy. way to exaggerate a little bit. kind of liek your driving. if you ran a 2.12 60 ft time and then finished it off with a 13.9 your shifting is hella slow. why is it you ran a 13.9 with a 60 ft time of 2.12 when a speed6 i know ran a 2.2 60 ft but ran a 13.2xx? woh wtf??? he must have a jet engine. right? mr exaggeration? dude im sick of this crap. and if you want to jerk something, try doing it to your shifter and learn to make it down the track at a reasonable time. you win the race in the first 60 feet according to about everyone i know so why is it he ran a 13.2xx and you could only hit a 13.9? the only other mod he had was his exhaust. did that give him the extra .7 seconds? according to you it probably didnt because a cold air intake only gave you a .1 so nobody else could run better than that because well, your you. if you were pulling on him according to paper within the first 60' he def wouldnt have stomped you the way his time shows. explain to me dr. laloosh

 

[LENNY127]

i think if we separate the "bench racers " from people who have actually been at a dragstrip racing a car it's obvious who reads magazines and who actually runs their cars. first that prelude stock would totally run 14.1 ......downhill with a 100ft headstart but hey I am 6'2 built like a rock and have 4 girlfriends.
second , if the speed 6 guys are running 13.2s good for them , a trap speed of 101mph should be no problem for a low to mid 13 second car weighing about 3k, but speed3 s have bad traction so while mph (indicative of hp) will be the same as it's speed6 counterpart it's et are completely understandibly 1/2 to 3/4 of a second slower than a "perfect run" of a 4500rpm launch with zero wheelspin, also (this is a question) arent the 6's not limited in 1st and 2nd like our cars?.....anyways all in good fun but 9k rpm shifts on a vtech ....sheeeeeeeeet....n@#gga please.

 

[BoostedSpd6]

second , if the speed 6 guys are running 13.2s good for them , a trap speed of 101mph should be no problem for a low to mid 13 second car weighing about 3k, but speed3 s have bad traction so while mph (indicative of hp) will be the same as it's speed6 counterpart it's et are completely understandibly 1/2 to 3/4 of a second slower than a "perfect run"

ok mind u i ran that time on race gas, and an exhaust with no muffler and no cat. i had an intake and the motor mount in as well at that point but i will agree with u on that u guys might be a 1/2 a second slower then us cuz its FWD.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

second , if the speed 6 guys are running 13.2s good for them , a trap speed of 101mph should be no problem for a low to mid 13 second car weighing about 3k, but speed3 s have bad traction so while mph (indicative of hp) will be the same as it's speed6 counterpart it's et are completely understandibly 1/2 to 3/4 of a second slower than a "perfect run"

ok mind u i ran that time on race gas, and an exhaust with no muffler and no cat. i had an intake and the motor mount in as well at that point but i will agree with u on that u guys might be a 1/2 a second slower then us cuz its FWD.

so your saying that if the MS3 had "race gas", straight pipes, motor mount and CAI its only going to run a 13.7xx or 13.8. **** that. off a good launch of 2.2 with this car with all those mods the trap speed is going to be sick for 1, and 2 the car is def capable of producing a better time than a 13.8. im sorry but i know this for a fact and ill prove it soon enough. you may beat off the dig but towards the end of the track we'll be gaining ground by easily a few more mph.
as for the guy who made the "book post." this is all ranting and raving. i dont care if i put someone in their place. i agree with you. but when i have some guy telling me im wrong when i DID IT, and DO IT. it sets me off. but thus, he wont believe me anyway because he only believes what he sees because his mom lied to him his entire life. now he trusts no one relying only on either something that seems 100% in his mind, or he sees it first hand.