Engine Trouble..

[LinuxRacr]

Seems that a lot is happening to the ride lately. My back brakes are metal to metal, and the rotors are on back-order till the middle of june. On top of that, I went for an oilchange yesterday, and fonud out that I probably had a little over a quart! When I got there, my engine was making a faint pinging sound. I go t the oil changed, and the pinging dampened a little. I drove to the shop that installed my engine, and had the Mazda tech listen. He said that it was hard to determine exactly what it is, but he said it could be one of the hydraulic lifters, or maybe something more serious. He took me back in the shop where he had a FS engine dismantled, and he showed me where the hydrolic lifters were. He also showed me my old engine block! It was still there! I drove it around after that all day, and the knocking sound was only present at about 3000-3500 RPM. I went to work last night, and on the way home just as I had entered Arlington going west on I-30, I noticed a sudden jolt, and a momntary Check Engine Light. I pulled over immediatly, and my car idled normally. I cut the car off and checked the oil. It was fine. I started it back up, and all was normal. I eased on to the highway, and when home. It made it with nothing else happening. I will have to wait till Tuesday to get it looked at!!:mad: Now I am stuck! What do you think it could be???

 

[Sir Nuke]

first off..SHAME ON YOU for not checking your babies oil!

where did it go? was there evidence of leakage? or was it USING IT.....

I would hate to guess what it was without actually listening to it...but if its a TAPPING sound..it could be a bad lifter...but USUALLY it will tap ALL the time and not just at a certain rpm.

as far as the JOLT and the momentary engine check light...there is no telling....you better get it checked out throughly and soon...before the problem presents itself in a complete failure...and you end up with a cratered motor.

and just WHAT part of your brakes are metal to metal? you are certainly talking about your roters to pads? and you can't get new pads till june? what the hell is up with that? you got some aftermarket stuff on the back? I think if I were you I would buy MULTIPLE of whatever part is is you are lacking....so that you won't have this problem in the future.

 

[LinuxRacr]

There was no evidence of leakage at all. It was just low as hell! They had ordered the pads for the back, and did try to install them yesterday, but they were sent the wrong ones!!:mad:

 

[Sir Nuke]

There was no evidence of leakage at all. It was just low as hell! They had ordered the pads for the back, and did try to install them yesterday, but they were sent the wrong ones!!:mad:

wow...the fact that the oil was that low is NOT good as you well know, but as long as you had pressure you are probably okay....it certainly got more work than it should have though. My sister let this happen to a truch she had once. She never experienced any damage.

ahhh Did YOU change the oil last? or did someone else do it? if you have no evidence of EXTERNAL leakage, and if it was your engine and undercariage would be a mess, and its not burning it...which would show up on your plugs if it burnt that much....there really is only one thing it could be...and that is that there wasn't enough in there to begin with! that...or its MAGIC! lol

Linux, if you wore out your rear brake pads that fast....and you are now having them replaced...and you are experiencing trouble getting them in....did you order yourself an extra set? and maybe a set for the front too? if not....I would consider it...that way NEXT time you can just swap then new ones in...and order another set and not be putting more wear and tear on the brakes than is truely necessary. Just an idea.

:{D

 

[LinuxRacr]

I just checked my plugs. They are all normal. I took it for a gentle ride, and after about 5 minutes the pinging came back. Definitely going to the shop tomorrow.

 

[Sir Nuke]

I just checked my plugs. They are all normal. I took it for a gentle ride, and after about 5 minutes the pinging came back. Definitely going to the shop tomorrow.

this DEFINATELY not good.......makes me wonder if your timing slipped somehow....that might explain the ping...but certainly not the oil....unless like mentioned before...its been low all along. :{(

 

[LinuxRacr]

Well, I just dropped my car off to get it checked out. We will see what is what.

 

[asianhottie]

Maintenance is the key!

Tire rotation, oil changes, and checking fluid levels is the key to keeping a car longer lasting.

Instead of worrying about some tv's in the back, check on these important items.

 

[LinuxRacr]

WTF!!!:mad: Your statement is correct, but I always keep my car's maintanence up to date.

 

[cfbjr]

First, check for asianhottie's fingerprints on your drain plug!



Next, better check you front brake pads as well. They should actaully wear out first since they do most of the work. It's strange to think that your rear pads are metal to metal and the fronts are still fine. Unless you drive around in reverse a lot! Additionally, You should have no trouble getting the proper brake parts if you order them through an official Mazda Parts department. Most other shops and parts places do not have the correct parts info for our cars and resort to using some other Protege model to find a part number. Many times they resort to a completely different year because they haven't been updated with stuff for 2001 model year. Also, if you are going through bake pads that fast you should probably upgrade to a more aggressive pad like a Hawk HPS or something along that line on the front(you can still go stock on the back). If the rotors aren't too toasted you should be able to get them resurfaced which will cost less than a brand new rotor and you won't have to worry about the new rotors fitting properly. Although, new rotors on this car can be had for fairly cheap, especially if you are a Mazda Competition Team Member. If your pads are down to the wear indicators, which is what that screetching sound is, your brake fluid is proabably also lower so top that off. Of course, when you get the brakes done you're going to have the brakes bled right?

Lastly, once a week get up five minutes earlier than you normally do and check the oil before you take off for work.

 

[asianhottie]

F*ckin A man!

I drank all of his oil, that's why I'm all wired. he he he

I never said you didn't maintain your car.

Just speaking in general.

 

[Sir Nuke]

WAIT A MINUTE!! I know what you been doin!! you been yankin on the E-Brake and power slidin around corners havn't you!! I bet you have!!! lol :{D

 

[derrick1623]

the pinging you talk about, makes me thing maybe a rod, my second car "pinged" all the time, but i cared not...so i ended up with a thrown rod, and a screwed engine, hope they figure it out!

 

[cfbjr]

I too have encountered the unexplained pinging and subsequent thrown rod. Make sure that new engine of yours was put together and tuned correctly. Could the pinging be detonation?

 

[big_ben]

Here is my question about the FS-ZE engine. I've asked this before but no one seems to know. Does the J-Spec engine have the same advanced timing as the MP3? If not then the MP3's advanced timing may be bad for the high compression of the FS-ZE. If I were you patrick, I'd start using normal gas in order to make the timing retard a little. That could be making it get into a little detonation. Just a thought.

 

[cfbjr]

Good point Ben. I can't remember if Linux got the FS_ZE computer or if he was using the MP3 computer or if he had something custom made up...

 

[big_ben]

He's still using the MP3 ECU. The J-Spec ECU won't fit in our car, the pins aren't the same. That could be the problem though. That's why people have been doing lots of damage when they are using nitrous. It explodes while the piston is still on the upstroke and the compression is going through the roof,....literaly.

 

[cfbjr]

He's still using the MP3 ECU. The J-Spec ECU won't fit in our car, the pins aren't the same. That could be the problem though. That's why people have been doing lots of damage when they are using nitrous. It explodes while the piston is still on the upstroke and the compression is going through the roof,....literaly.

YIKES!!! Be careful people! :mad: :mad:

Note: the turbo guys are using custom fuel management systems. Hmmm. I wonder why?

 

[derrick1623]

ok, all this engine talk, now im lost again... i know how a turbo works, but how does a fuel management thing, like the custom turbo guys, do anyway...? i may sound dumb, but i did know the jspec ecu won't work...but why change to a fsze, if you cant have total power out of it?

 

[big_ben]

The reason to change to the FS-ZE is that in the future there will be an aftermarket ECU upgrade for the MP3 and P5. But as of right now, the FS-ZE isn't worth it. For the same money after the install you can get a turbo. But if you are one of the hardcore guys that will do nothing nut NA, the FS-ZE is the way to go. If I were to get one, I'd go ahead and get something that will control the ignition timing and air/fuel ratios. That's the only way you are going to see the 170hp from the FS-ZE.