egt reading

what should the egt be reading at the different points while driving? meaning, at wot, partial throttle. is there a difference when in different gears? this is all meant with my p5 and turbo. when im bo0stin, is that gonna make a difference in temp? what temp is safe so i know im not gonna break anything? thanks for the help, ill post pics up tomorrow, hope you like it
 
Only thing I am qualified to tell you on this is that the EGT is more of a WOT tuning tool I believe.
 
I believe (don't quote me here) that for optimal tuning on WOT you wanna be between 1450F and 1600F. But again, don't quote me on that.
 
Kooldino said:
I believe (don't quote me here) that for optimal tuning on WOT you wanna be between 1450F and 1600F. But again, don't quote me on that.

dino way to hot bud!
any way there are many readings that can be confusing. first off we need to know where in the exhaust path you mounted the probe.
 
its mounted in the 4th tube of the manifold, i got the suggestion from terry, so i put it there, its about 3-4 inches out from the manifold. let me know, thanks
 
Yeah, that should be a pretty accurate placement. Take a pic for me if you can. :-)

That's about where I plan on doing mine.
 
Depending on probe placement on manifold or downpipe your temps will vary about 200F
The temps you should be lookin for are

@ THE MANIFOLD 4TH RUNNER

WOT a maximum of 790c (750-780)
CRUISE 60MPH a maximum of (730-760c)

790c=1454f
760c=1400f

If your probe is in the DP then add 200f to these temps
 
what if it goes higher? is that bad? and what can happen if this goes too high? thanks man, and mine is usually crusing around 1200f at cruise speed. thanks
 
When Terry said "in the DP then add 200 F" he meant, subtract 200F. The readings in the DP will be cooler than those in the manifold.

Now, if you're getting higher readings. . .yes, that is bad. . .very bad if it goes too high (not sure what too high is on our engine though). Higher temps = lean.

Since you're at 1200F cruising, you aren't lean, so that's good, but it would seem that you are too rich (if that is possible). :) But, you're on the safe side.
 
When Terry said "in the DP then add 200 F" he meant, subtract 200F. The readings in the DP will be cooler than those in the manifold.
(bang)
In away I meant both
Subtracting will give you the actual temp but if you have it in the downpipe add 200 degrees to your reading and that will be equivilent to a probe mounted in the mani
Forexample if you are getting a 1315f reading at the DP you know you are lean because you add 200f to 1315f and you get 1515f wich translates to crispy lean:D
 
You guys need a bit of an edgumikation on EGTs, probe placement, and effective use of the information provided by such.

First of all, the probe should be placed half the collectors diameter in distance from the exhaust port. If you have 2" collectors, put the probe 1" from the exhaust port opening on the head.

Second, EGTs in abstract have no meaning. Saying "1515F is crispy lean" is wrong. Not because it couldn't be the case but, rather, because you don't know what the appropriate peak EGT is supposed to be at the torque peak on that engine. 1515F may actually be overly rich on that setup.
People think that the leaner you go, the higher the EGT gets. This is incorrect. Peak EGT occurs at stoich - about 15:1. If you go richer than 15:1, EGT will drop and if you go leaner than 15:1 EGT will also drop.
The only way to know what the correct EGTs are for a given vehicle is to measure them in conjunction with a wideband O2 sensor on a dyno.
What EGT is good for is a reference for where the engine made maximum torque at wide open throttle.
It is really the AFR that is important, not the EGT. Most engines will make maximum power at an AFR of between 11.8 and 13 to 1 however, the EGT may vary from 1250F to 1800F and is dependent on many factors.
What temperatures you internals can take is another matter.
Since aluminum melts at 1220 and alloy is significantly higher, you won't know until you melt something.
:p
 
1515f or 800c @ wot when the probe placed in the 4th runner 1" from the exhaust port

Yeilds a 13.2:1 wideband reading. A bit to lean for an FS engine
 
So 800c = 13.2:1 at wot? I have hit 800 before, I have my warning light set there. Usually happens in 4th under full boost at about 5500-6K. It usually stops at about 790 though.
 
Hey nice webpage MazdaManiac very informative and easy to understand. I totally respect what you're doing.
Yeah nice site:D
So 800c = 13.2:1 at wot? I have hit 800 before, I have my warning light set there. Usually happens in 4th under full boost at about 5500-6K. It usually stops at about 790 though.
Were is your probe mounted?
If in the runner then 800 is a bit on the lean side.
790 is fine but I would feel more comfortable with 770-780
 
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