Displacement

[Kooldino]

First off.
Back off dana. Linux was expressing a thought he had on the situation.

It's one thing to express your thoughts. It's another to insinuate that I was acting like a jerk about the thing, when in fact i was not.

Second. My wording on the phone was WRONG. YOU HAPPY? I know the difference between increasing and decreasing compression, or calculating adjusted displacement.

You're wording wasn't wrong, YOU were. Don't try to blame it on excuses. We argued about it for 5 minutes. I gave you multiple opportunities to correct yourself.

As you know i have been working about 18 hours a day. Im sorry if i didnt make clear to you about my argument on bore and stroke theory.

You DID make your argument clear. A dozen or so times. Then I said my side, and as usual, you wouldn't listen. That's my main beef here, man...

You had asked me a question at 200AM and i didnt respond to it correctly.

I didn't ask you a question...you're the one who brought it up when you mentioned changing rod length to change displacement. So obviously it was pre-mis-conceived.

I am human and do make mistakes like everyone else on this planet.

That's all fine and dandy, and that's why you have to learn to LISTEN to people and not be so condescending at times.

I was also not arguing on the phone with you.

Sure you were. It was in no way a heated argument, but we were clearly disagreeing and going back and forth with our points for awhile. I'd call that arguing.

As far as our conversation i had a slip in thought. Take it as you may but i had alot of things on my mind and didnt think that because i was quoted wrong that it would become this entire show on a public forum.

1-You didn't just have a "slip" in thought since you had plenty of time to think about it during out discussion.

2-You were obviously confident enough about it to be condescending to me about it ("oh, so now YOU'RE gonna teach ME about engine theory?", etc)

3-You weren't misquoted.

4-I told you RIGHT before we got off the phone "I think you're wrong, man, but I'll go ahead and post this on the forums so we can figure it out for sure." Your response was along the lines Of "Ok, go ahead".

When i mentioned to you in an earlier post about being in a pissing match , you do it all the time with me and others. BUT, its cool . I do it too. It wasnt meant to be aggresive towards you.

?? Gotta disagree with you here. A "pissing match", AFAIK, is a useless, pointless argument. I don't participate in pointless arguments. All the arguments that I get into w/ people (yourself included) are debates over things that have a purpose. Learning the true answer to our little debate benefited the forum members.

You like myself have that tendency to argue till we get our points across. I just differ from you in that i dont come on to this forum and make someone look like they are ignorant because i want to be right.

1-You would, and have, come on to this forum to try to prove me wrong.

2-No offense, but no one made yourself look ignorant but yourself.

3-I wouldn't have to come onto the forum to "prove you wrong" if you'd actually LISTEN to people's points and stopped being so hard headed!

If we had a conversation about something which i might have been right about and you didnt agree, i DONT come onto the mazda forum to post and say I JUST ARGUED WITh SO AND SO ABOUT SOMTHING TELL ME THAT HES WRONG

Ummm, remember our EGT placement debate?

but anyway, **** it who cares. Your still my friend. Were cool.
We will always argue like family.
Your a b**** with a big mouth.

Yeah, yeah, ya bastid...but my point here was to teach you something. We argue all the time over car stuff. If you say something that I don't THINK is true, I'll question it. I may bring up some points against it, but I won't argue w/ you since I don't know for sure.

BUT, if you say something that i KNOW is not true (case in point), i will argue with you to the death.

That being said, next time someone argues with you, and is firm on their argument, think twice before you argue back; they very well may be right. Or at least just be a little less abrasive and keep an open mind.

(thumb)

 

[igdrasil]

(nobody)

That being said, next time someone argues with you, and is firm on their argument, think twice before you argue back; they very well may be right. Or at least just be a little less abrasive and keep an open mind.

When 2 people argue about anything and both argue back, doesnt matter if wrong or right, is because BOTH are firm in their arguments.

(upyours)

 

[Kooldino]

(nobody)



When 2 people argue about anything and both argue back, doesnt matter if wrong or right, is because BOTH are firm in their arguments.

(upyours)

Well, this thread is an example of why you SHOULDN'T be firm unless you know for sure. You could end up w/ egg on your face and if you habitually did, you'd lose a lot of respect.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Listen Dana,

Didn't call you an ass. I said don't be one. So if you are not an ass, then that doesn't apply to you. If you mistook what I said, I'm making it clear righ now. No one is trying to tag-team your ass....

I just gave my take on what I saw. I am a more laid back guy I guess than most. It's one thing to be right about something, but it's another to use this board for self gratification. I did say that. You got your point out there. It's done. So am I. (I hope)

 

[REMillers]

Wahoo a pissing contest lol

*drags recliner into thread and leans back to watch the fight*

Gooooooooooooooo TEAM!!!!

 

[LinuxRacr]

In the interest of keeping a warm fuzzy feeling on this board, I'm out this biach!!! Kool, Perf, keep bringing the knowledge. That's what this board is about. I could give a damn about a pissing contest.

 

[Kooldino]

Listen Dana,

Didn't call you an ass. I said don't be one. So if you are not an ass, then that doesn't apply to you.

Well if I wasn't being an ass then why even mention it? Most people in my shoes would take what you said as an implication of being called an ass.

If you mistook what I said, I'm making it clear righ now. No one is trying to tag-team your ass....

I just gave my take on what I saw. I am a more laid back guy I guess than most. It's one thing to be right about something, but it's another to use this board for self gratification. I did say that. You got your point out there. It's done. So am I. (I hope)

So now I'm using the boards as self gratification? Subtext: Perf knows his stuff. On occasion he's wrong. When he is, he's hardheaded and won't listen. I'm using this thread as an example to him. There's no self gratifcation here. Again, man, I don't see why you're down on ME about any of this?? I'm always getting flak from people when I politely prove myself right. What's up w/ that??

 

[Kooldino]

Wahoo a pissing contest lol

*drags recliner into thread and leans back to watch the fight*

Gooooooooooooooo TEAM!!!!

LOL, jerk!

 

[REMillers]

Well fine I wont cheer for you then

*puts down the Kooldino #1 Finger*


*puts up the PerfWorks #1 Finger*


now where is that beer man at???

 

[Kooldino]

Well fine I wont cheer for you then

*puts down the Kooldino #1 Finger*


*puts up the PerfWorks #1 Finger*


now where is that beer man at???

LOL, i can tell you what to do w/ that finger.



In all seriousness, I hope people realize that this thread is in no way a Urination Competition, and saw what I was trying to point out.

 

[TheMAN]

how come this thread seems so familiar..... oh for a second there I thought I was on protegeclub

 

[REMillers]

LOL yes figure you guys are just joking around a bit and just understanding exactly what makes displacement.
But just wanted to add more humor to it so it doesn't approach that of the protegeclub.

 

[perfworks]

dana if you werent so anal about s*** you wouldnt quote every f8ing thing people say and try to disprove it.
have you noticed that your the only one that does that. EVERY QUOTE. EVERY ONE. you rebut everything. If you arent trying for a pissing match than why nitpick everything someone says man.
Who cares if you think you were right. The point is there was a mistake made with wording . Period. As i recall you called me asking me the question. You didnt even know the answer. I specifically mentioned to you that the stroke would change so would displacement. I am not hiding the fact the i made an error when i said the rods caused that difference. Again like i mentuioned earlier i made a mistake. My point is i always respect your thoughts. We have had many conversations about this and you know it. I dont need to remind you. I just dont like the fact that you nitpick everything and HAVE TO PROVE who is right and wrong. THERE ARE ALOT more important things out there to worry about. ( like EGT placement ) You just have that thing about you where you need to argue or you just cant survive or something. Damn chill. you say everyone gets on you .... yeah well they do because you go overboard sometimes. But im not saying i dont either. I guess you need to be on the outside looking in to an argument to see what im talking about. You can take credit for anything you want no problem. I dont care . Its still stupid argument though..

 

[Kooldino]

LOL yes figure you guys are just joking around a bit and just understanding exactly what makes displacement.
But just wanted to add more humor to it so it doesn't approach that of the protegeclub.

(thumb)

Word.

The reason I posted this thread was so that we could all learn a little something, and I wanted to give Nick a shout out..."Hey, be a little more considerate when we argue."

 

[Kooldino]

dana if you werent so anal about s*** you wouldnt quote every f8ing thing people say and try to disprove it.
have you noticed that your the only one that does that. EVERY QUOTE. EVERY ONE. you rebut everything. If you arent trying for a pissing match than why nitpick everything someone says man.

Hey, man, sorry, it just bothers me when people talk nonsense, of I don't understand what they're trying to say.

Who cares if you think you were right. The point is there was a mistake made with wording . Period.

Again, it wasn't with wording, it was with what you were thinking when you said what you said.

As i recall you called me asking me the question.

Nope, you brought that up. You just remembered so when we got off the phone 5 mins ago.

You didnt even know the answer.

??? I'm not even gonna touch this one.

I specifically mentioned to you that the stroke would change so would displacement. I am not hiding the fact the i made an error when i said the rods caused that difference.
Again like i mentuioned earlier i made a mistake. My point is i always respect your thoughts. We have had many conversations about this and you know it. I dont need to remind you. I just dont like the fact that you nitpick everything and HAVE TO PROVE who is right and wrong.

I have to PROVE you wrong because you don't respect me enough to take my word for anything. And that's ok. So either one of us will have the wrong idea about something, OR we'll both know the truth when one of us proves the other wrong. What's the problem w/ that? Personally, I'd rather be proven wrong and know the facts then continue to think about something the wrong way.

THERE ARE ALOT more important things out there to worry about. ( like EGT placement ) You just have that thing about you where you need to argue or you just cant survive or something.

?? Now i have to justify why I argue? Dude, we disagreed on something. One of us was going to be wrong, therefore, at least one of us was going to learn something. Besides, it takes two to argue, cracka.

Damn chill. you say everyone gets on you .... yeah well they do because you go overboard sometimes. But im not saying i dont either.

How did I go overboard? I politely posted an open thread and requested info about something. Everything was 100% stoich until your initial post.