Blown Motors

[Wintermute]

Looking up the 2004 Mazda6 owner's manual there are two different schedules. One at 4 months/5,000 miles and one at 6 months/7,500 miles. Not sure why they have two on there.

That is because there are two service intervals for the car, based on your average driving conditions. The shorter interval is for "severe" conditions: Hot weather, dusty conditions, heavy stop and go traffic, aggressive/spirited driving. The longer interval is for "normal" conditions (i.e. you don't live in the desert and you don't spend 4 hours a day doing 10 mph spurts in traffic jams).

Most modern cars have this.

 

[gooniac33]

Contact your Mazda regional service rep. They will take care of this. If you still dont find resolution, contact the Mazda Arbitration Board and file a claim.

I had a similar issue on the 98 SVT Cobra. Rod bearing spun, car was out of warranty by 11,238 miles. Ford replaced my engine and gave me an additional 24,000 mile warranty on the new engine. I did have to pay a $500 deductable however, but that was a small price to pay considering the $8100 price tag of the replacement.

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It is not up to the dealer in this instance. It is up to the manufacturer. They should stand behind this. The dealers try to be stupid and don't want anything to do with it but it really isn't their call. So what he said! I think they call it "goodwill" warranty or something along those lines....

 

[PeterSellers]

no the rods are not forged they are cast. they have casting patterns and marks.

This is incorrect. Please stop spreading false information.

 

[2.0t03speed]

This is incorrect. Please stop spreading false information.

really so your calling ken the owner of protege garage a liar?

 

[martinolsen]

sorry your rods are not forged and neithr are your pistons im not sure about the crank tho.

If you don't know for sure please don't post you might confuse some one who is more impressionable....
From http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=24323



Creating the DISI Turbo engine involved more than just changing the injection system and adding a turbocharger, though. The form and materials used for the major components are optimized to bear the added load and heat of the increased output. The aluminum cylinder block and cylinder head are made using a new implementation of the Mazda Advanced Precision Casting process, which increases their strength. In addition, cross drilling between the cylinder liners and between the valve bridges in the head improves coolant flow and heat resistance. The crankshaft and connecting rods are made of forged steel, wrist pins are a new full-floating design, connecting rods have an optimized shape and larger journal size, and pistons are designed for maximum stiffness and durability.

 

[2.0t03speed]

hahah im sorry but that is a lie. also you will see that they say that all the flywheels are interchangeable between the turbo and non turbo 2.3l. that is also not true.

 

[martinolsen]

Than that is false representation and that could cause a class action lawsuit…. So if it were true why haven’t any of the people with blown motors filed with an attorney?

 

[2.0t03speed]

if they are forged then why are the speed 6's blowing left and right? they have the same motor. im telling you there not im pretty sure if ken who builds forged motors for the ms3's and ms6's says there not forged and there made out of the same s*** thats in the regular fs-de im going to believe him.

 

[2.0t03speed]

Than that is false representation and that could cause a class action lawsuit. So if it were true why havent any of the people with blown motors filed with an attorney?

why file a lawsuit when mazda is going to replace the motor in the 1st place? also im pretty sure the ppl's motors who have blown havent been stock.

 

[martinolsen]

Because the engine is only as good as its weakest link If Ford says the rods are forged they have to be Period. Could you imagine the lawsuit if it was a lie? From the limited knowledge I have of the MZR it seems the week link is the pistons. Its just like the Hyundai Tiburons GK platform (which I also own) the pistons are crumbling causing the piston to seize to the cylinder wall causing to prove

Newton's first law of motion An object at rest tends to stay at rest and an object in motion tends to stay in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.

Your crank is still turning when your piston decides to get stuck causing the next weakest link to be the Connecting Rods. People often will think the obvious is the solution with out taking into consideration alternate possibilities.

 

[2.0t03speed]

so are you just not trying to read that the rods are mad eout of the same material and have casting marks and patters just like the rods in my fs-de. and seriously if you try and tell me that they are forged you should just leave the forums lol.

 

[martinolsen]

so are you just not trying to read that the rods are mad eout of the same material and have casting marks and patters just like the rods in my fs-de. and seriously if you try and tell me that they are forged you should just leave the forums lol.

Maybe the problem is no one knows what Fords definition of forged is... But I also feel that you are reading what I am typing but your not understanding what it means.... Thank you but I think I'll stay I kind of like having this debate, considering you answered a question I didn't ask.

 

[2.0t03speed]

im pretty sure im understanding what your typing. Also im not going to bother debating this with you anymore you obviously dont want to believe it so there no reason to try and force the truth on you. o and i said i did not know if the crank was forged or not if you read =).i think you miss understood what i said in my last post... when i said "they" i was talking about my msp rods not the ms3 rods.

 

[martinolsen]

I'd love to sit and wait but I gotta catch some Z's 3rd shift sucks. 2.0t03speed no hard feelings, I am just trying to learn as much as I can in a short period. I bought my car on Sat and I am afraid to do anything to it because people are blowing these cars up. I probably won't have 500 miles on the car before I put a new rotating assembly into the car.

 

[2.0t03speed]

i hear you man i can tell by your post count that your pretty new maybe ken will come in here and shead some light as to the ms3 rod situation =). take it easy

 

[martinolsen]

obviously dont want to believe it so there no reason to try and force the truth on you.

I am open minded about it its just that it wouldn't make sense to lie about it, because Ford/Mazda could get SUED.... You know just as well as I do this society is sue happy and always looking for ways to get money quick out of simple things. That’s why I am surprised that a company would do that.

 

[martinolsen]

thanks man you too.

 

[mdogg]

Msf/m6c > M247

 

[2.0t03speed]

mazda usa

 

[redrocketz]

Who is the "they" that says these parts are interchangeable? I haven't read that anywhere.

it's on the mazda website under mazdaspeed accessories