AWD---The wheels are turning

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Well...at least they will be soon. Here is the up to date story. Corksport has found all the parts to do the AWD conversion for me. We will be using the AWD Mazda Capella manual transmission. There is a company close by here that will cryo-treat the tranny internals for me. All of the other drivetrain parts will be from the J-spec AWD Protege5. This includes the rear subframe, shocks, driveshaft, halfshafts, rear differential, and split gas tank. I'm having the same company that did the 500hp axles for our proteges remake all the drivetrain stuff to hold more power. Hopefully they will be making a new driveshaft for me in aluminum with chromoly ends. AWR wants me to ship them the rear swaybar so they can bend me a new one.

Things we don't know yet:

Total cost=????????

The Capella used a cable actuated shifter. Corksport assures me that it will mount up with no problems, but we really won't know until it gets here. The rear shocks are different and I'm not sure about getting springs or even getting JIC or Tein to make a custom set of coilovers for me. The most obvious problem will be the exhaust. The driveshaft will be taking up most of the room in the channel through the middle of the car. The J-spec AWD car sits 35mm higher than the FWD cars, probably to make room for the exhaust. I don't want the car to sit any higher and I'm hoping I can actually lower it similair to where I have it now. The best idea I can think of is to get oval piping for under the car. This will allow me to run a larger volume pipe without losing ground clearence.

I'm having Corksport ship me the tranny first so I can check for any fitment issues (shouldn't be any) and so I can get it cryo-treated. I'll have pictures of the new tranny soon. I'm still trying to decide whether I want to clean out my garage and put the car in there (already has a 1 ton chainfall for getting the motor/trans in and out of the car, but not much room or my parents huge garage that is 30 minutes away).

If this works there is no reason why any of the 3rd gen Proteges can't do this. We all have the same wheelbase.

Updates coming soon.
 
let me know pricing I might do this when you are done! I would like to do a right hand drive conversion too. I think that will be tight. For now I'm looking at getting the standalone injectors and a fuel pump so that I might have a chance of beingable to save that much before my engine blows
 
cost will be astronomical. Also, AWD is great for cars that can put down the power, but how much power do you plan on making? Over 230hp?? better look into building a motor and a nice turbo system. Also going to fuel management like perf's ECU...you're already looking at $8K (my estimation). Good luck man, you'l be the only one.
 
I'm having the tranny and rear differential cryo-treated and the driveshaft and half-shafts custom made for 500hp. After I get that taken care of the motor will be stripped and forged internals put in. The turbo kit will be next, but I'm still not sure which one I'm going to go with. I'm just trying to take it one step at a time. I'm definitely keeping up to date with all the EMS stuff going around. My goal is 300hp on 93 octane. That should be enough to scare the s*** out of some WRX's and EVO's. This will probably take most of this year to complete given my limited budget, but taking it slowly will ensure that everything is done correctly. Cost will be considerable, but this has been a dream of mine for 2 years. It is one of those things that I have to do before I can move on to something else.
 
Good luck... sounds like a one of a kind protege... due to the cost of the car, the build, labor, fabrication, etc.. id go out and buy an awd car.. But thats me.
 
Why did you choose the Capella tranny rather than the one that is in the AWD Familia?

Cheaper?
 
does no'one else think this can't be done for under $6K??? I'm all for originality and what-not, but why throw this kind of money into a sub-$15K car?? You'll have more traction and driveline strength than any other protege ever, but you'll need to dump another couple of grand into building the motor, then tuning it.

If you have the bankroll to allow this and you think it'sa good investment then more power to you. I just can't believe no'one else has said anything about insanely expensive this is going to get. There was a time when I first owned my MSP that I had an extra $5K to dump into my car...I looked into the AWD idea but QUICKLY turned away. It will have so many hidden costs and un-planned problems that you'll be knee-deep in under a week!


I wish ya luck man....sounds like you've got more money than sense!
 
StuttersC said:
Why did you choose the Capella tranny rather than the one that is in the AWD Familia?

Cheaper?
The AWD Capella is a manual shift where as the AWD Familia was only offered in an automatic. Even if I didn't mind driving an auto tranny it would still never be able to hold the HP #'s that I want to get when I'm finished.
 
Turbo Matty P said:
does no'one else think this can't be done for under $6K??? I'm all for originality and what-not, but why throw this kind of money into a sub-$15K car?? You'll have more traction and driveline strength than any other protege ever, but you'll need to dump another couple of grand into building the motor, then tuning it.

If you have the bankroll to allow this and you think it'sa good investment then more power to you. I just can't believe no'one else has said anything about insanely expensive this is going to get. There was a time when I first owned my MSP that I had an extra $5K to dump into my car...I looked into the AWD idea but QUICKLY turned away. It will have so many hidden costs and un-planned problems that you'll be knee-deep in under a week!


I wish ya luck man....sounds like you've got more money than sense!
Anyone who has ever met me can tell you that I stray very far from the beaten path. I guess you could say that with any sense I would go and buy an STI, but that wouldn't be any fun and certainly would earn any respect from people who actually build and tune their cars. The Protege5 has the ability to be an excellent sleeper and everyone is all wide-eyed everytime a STI or an EVO drive by. Hell...even the dreaded SRT holds a certain respect to it when your sitting beside one at a stoplight. I'm trying to build a car that people don't know to be afraid of until it is too late.
 
Have you looked into sponsorships?? Like Matty said, it could easily be a $10K+ mod(with the engine rebuild and turbo). You would be in a class of your own, which I think makes it worth it though:) Good luck, and hope this works out.
 
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