ANOTHER Broken motor mount........ Its my turn

my delaership said striagh tup.
if it causes the problem then i pay. If my mods sisnt cause the problem then they fix it. its the law or whatever. PLus they keep askign me when i go in. whats new. and any new parts from the guys that have or asre gettign speeds 3 and 6.
 
Slow down there spark plug, you don't have to type so fast. (burnout)

It all depends on the dealer. If one treats you like crap then don't give them any more business. If you can't find any dealers in your area that treat you right bring it up with mazda. It really sucks that dealers can get away with being dicks most of the time since there isn't any other place to go.
 
whitey4311 said:
I love seeing all this "dealerships has to prove it". They dont have to prove s*** to give you the biggest hassel of your life by telling you otherwise. Sure maybe challenge them for months on end and get yourself a lawyer and see it if will get fixed on their coin and use that blah blah act/law people talk about. Sounds like a good idea to me since they have to PROVE to you why they will void any said warranty.

I think it pretty simple and reasonable to say replacing one of the 3 mounts would have some impact on the other 2 and it wouldnt be too far fetched to blame the failure on that.

I am not against modifications but I think those who choose to put all this TMIC, BOV, tranny mounts, ECU flashes, should accept that they no longer have a warranty and deal with it. Just mod it if you want but dont try to figure out if its under warranty later when something fails due to the mods.


I've yet to see a BOV actually breaking any part of a car.... (lol)


WTF?

"blah blah" laws huh? I think you should google or wikipedia the Magnuson-Moss Act and find out what it REALLY is.......because, forgive me for assuming, but I don't believe you REALLY have any clue as to what it involves........

Oh and pretty much the dealer must show some reasoning as to why they won't warranty repair work........ just like if you sign off on the side (and I always sign off) that I want to see the parts they are replacing to exam.....they save it for me and I check it out.

You can take your car to another mechanic, even 2 different mechanics and have them sign off and verify that your mod is NOT the reason whatever broke

(yeah your CAI blew out your rear shock........so yeah your warranty is voided, sorry buddy).

I think you need to go over to some of the other Mazda forums........ I remember one guy on another forum talking about taking his speed6 in and the service manager told him that his BOV was a boost controller and voided his warranty...........LOL wtf? yeah..... Mazda really knows their s***.....(especially when they're telling their mechanics/techs that there is supposed to be turbo on the charge side and throttle body of the manifold.... when in school they obviously learned otherwise).

To be honest unless I have a GOOD relationship with a service manager/dealer

I don't trust any of them..........in this day and age the number one of the 7 Deadliest Sins is greed.........for money.
 
Not going to challenge that ACT I am simply saying that regardless of what it says do you really think it will be an easy process to deal with all that s***?

You obviously didnt read s*** based on your CAI blew the shock out remark because I said over and over that is crazy and wont happen. However going in for a CEL to only find out its a MAF light due to the CAI makes you pay up for labor, diagnostic, and repair.

Dont listen to me try it and see what happens. Or be a pussy like the rest and crawl under the car and remove all your mods and play stupid. If you guys have this hardcore ACT in your back pocket why remove the mods for a service under warranty? Go challenge them and see where that gets you and how long it will take to get your car back.

I would love to see a mechanic write off that changing the motor mounts wont have any thing to do with one of the other mounts failing should it do so. Please post that letter and back it up with your ACT. I can go make phone calls right now to dealers and ask and you know what they will say. Right or wrong it wont matter the BS that goes along with thse sort of mods isnt wort discussing warranty work.

Dont be a b**** and try to claim WARRANTY whey you **** up, just fix what you did wrong or dont mess with it in the first place.
 
whitey4311 said:
Not going to challenge that ACT I am simply saying that regardless of what it says do you really think it will be an easy process to deal with all that s***?
No it's not easy, no one ever said it was....... in most cases it's used as a "scare tactic" and eventually used when you obtain a lawyer....

whitey4311 said:
You obviously didnt read s*** based on your CAI blew the shock out remark because I said over and over that is crazy and wont happen. However going in for a CEL to only find out its a MAF light due to the CAI makes you pay up for labor, diagnostic, and repair.
I'm sorry but anyone doing that is an idiot when you can obtain an ODB-II scanner that has CAN abilities and find out the CEL light reason yourself..... or take it to an AutoZone & Advance Auto Parts that has an updated scanner with CAN abilities..... I've done that in the past for other cars and they haven't even charged me.

whitey4311 said:
Dont listen to me try it and see what happens. Or be a pussy like the rest and crawl under the car and remove all your mods and play stupid. If you guys have this hardcore ACT in your back pocket why remove the mods for a service under warranty? Go challenge them and see where that gets you and how long it will take to get your car back
The act isn't for people who mod...... but there are dealers who deny warranty or reject fixing a part even when cars aren't modded..... and for the most part, the MAJORITY of people who remove their mods is because they know their service dealers will give them s*** about it...... if you think a dealer isn't going to try to get out of warranty work then you need to get your head examined..... How long have you had your MS3? I can't wait til they start giving you the run around..... I've heard of dealers blaming the CAI as to why a MS6 smokes......when there are BONE STOCK MS6's that are smoking..... and the result of them saying it's the CAI or BOV is BEFORE the fact they've even looked at the car....... they just pop the hood and go "oh here's your problem"

That's like asking the dealer why he's so stupid, showing him a picture of a CAT scan (that isn't his) where the brain is the size of a peanut and telling him "oh here's your problem" ;)

I can't wait til something on your car ***** up and the dealer tries to screw you over....... you'll be right back here telling us about it and we'll just be laughing. (lol2)

whitey4311 said:
I would love to see a mechanic write off that changing the motor mounts wont have any thing to do with one of the other mounts failing should it do so. Please post that letter and back it up with your ACT. I can go make phone calls right now to dealers and ask and you know what they will say. Right or wrong it wont matter the BS that goes along with thse sort of mods isnt wort discussing warranty work.
LOL @ "i can go call a dealer" We were talking about someone ELSE not a dealer..... god, are you naive?...... why would you call another dealer? I know EXACTLY what a dealer would say about installing a Mazdaspeed CAI on the car "it'll void your warranty" HOWEVER the CAI has a green status under Mazda, which means it's A-OK to put on your car, which all leads back to the "MAF CEL LIGHT" you talked about...... some people have even had Mazda put the CAI on, and then tell them it's not under warranty, even though it is. So why would I even bother to call another dealer or 2 to get an answer from them? Half of them don't want to repair the breaking rear diffs that some people even with STOCK cars, seem to be having problems with......but that should be covered under warranty, right? Oh you're gonna tell me they were racing at the track and such? That would make sense, except one of the members from another forum is like 48 with 2 kids..... and no mods on his car, so I doubt he'd bother to "race" right?

Try to do a little more light reading before you just assume everything...... I know many other mechanics, some are friends that own small shops, and I know people who work for corporate places like BMW and Toyota and Ford as mechanics and they tell me about some of the messed up crap that goes on back there.....

whitey4311 said:
Dont be a b**** and try to claim WARRANTY whey you **** up, just fix what you did wrong or dont mess with it in the first place.
I expect to hear back from you when you b**** how Mazda doesn't fix whatever problem arises with your car,stock or not........... I can't wait til you get a BOV and the service guy asks why you put a Boost Controller on your car and decided to void your warranty..... (2thumbs)

Get off the "dealer" stint buddy, they are not there to help you, they are there to make money......case in point they make A LOT more money by charging for parts and labor than they do by being compensated for warranty work. Hmm...... would you rather do warranty work and get paid maybe $800 towards the dealership? or would you rather try to sucker a guy to pay for parts and labor ($3000) and pocket about $2300 towards the dealership??


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How about this example...... when you go in for a synthetic oil change ($59.99) and they offer you some "complete" bulls*** for $200? Talking about oil change, rotating tires (seems pointless to me on an AWD car, but may be good for ours since it's "fwd biased") lube jobe, etc.

Everyone who's talking about that has asked......WTF are they lubing? there's pretty much nothing to lube on the car, even on my TRUCK, I've taken it to the dealer (Ford, 16 at the time never worked on cars before) and sat outside the service bay and watched them pull my truck in...... then recorded it with my phone (video) and saw they did no "lubing" of any kind but charged me for it...... all I had to do was go to back to the Service guy and show him my video and then ask to speak to a manager and he refunded me my money and only charged me for the oil change. Now-a-days I change my own oil and don't bother to care or let a dealer do it. as for the motor mounts....... I haven't heard of broken MM problem on an MS6 yet...... so it seems odd that the MS3 is having its problems (and yes a MM is like the first mod people seem to get for their MS6)
 
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maybe it's too much reading for you but he got a solid point IMO. Thats why my car will remain stock 'till warenty is over, then who know?
 
^ LOL whitey doesn't have the attention span to read, but hes obviously more educated than the rest of us right? Good solid points Koenig
 
Wow you guys revived my thread......... Good reading and i agree with Koenig. Dealers are there to make money.
All my waranty work was about 800.00 under warranty charges....... but if i had to pay for it my self the same work would have been around 2000.00

Either way i filed my concern with mazda i mada my statement with the NHSTA and i still drive the piss out of my MS3, i won't stop either. My wife and I have both driven at the track and both love the car.

If i had to do it al over again i would buy the MS3 again, and stil drive it till the motor falls out. :D
 
justa4banger said:
Wow you guys revived my thread......... Good reading and i agree with Koenig. Dealers are there to make money.
All my waranty work was about 800.00 under warranty charges....... but if i had to pay for it my self the same work would have been around 2000.00

Either way i filed my concern with mazda i mada my statement with the NHSTA and i still drive the piss out of my MS3, i won't stop either. My wife and I have both driven at the track and both love the car.

If i had to do it al over again i would buy the MS3 again, and stil drive it till the motor falls out. :D


LOL, screw the old saying of driving with the "peddle to the medal" when you can say "drive it until the motor falls out."

Good to hear you are all taken care of. Are there any signs of it ever having happend? Like scratched paint on the frame or anything?
 
justa4banger said:
Wow you guys revived my thread......... Good reading and i agree with Koenig. Dealers are there to make money.
All my waranty work was about 800.00 under warranty charges....... but if i had to pay for it my self the same work would have been around 2000.00

Either way i filed my concern with mazda i mada my statement with the NHSTA and i still drive the piss out of my MS3, i won't stop either. My wife and I have both driven at the track and both love the car.

If i had to do it al over again i would buy the MS3 again, and stil drive it till the motor falls out. :D

Careful with racing. That is one thing that is in the warrenty manual that explicitly says it will void your warrenty. (dark)
 
ONCE again they have to have Solid proof, IE tow truck brings it from the track, with a track markings, and timeslips in the seat, along with my go fast safety gear :D

Actually i already talked to my service manager and he knows the car has been to the track he doesn't care, he knows its been on a dyno. he only request is it never get towed from a track and it looks stock once it comes in. His opinion is there are so few mS3 on the road, major work on a few here and there won't hurt no one.

I guess it does help i have a a good repour (sp) with the dealer/service dept. Then again i will never be so dumb to leave NON authorized MS parts on the car. the CAI is fine and thats proably all i'll do.
besides it seems to me that even making 300whp will be a difficult task in the MS3, Besides................Avatar check.

I love the MS3 it is fun and the CAI really woke it up, but in the end this is my daily commuter car, not my racecar, or money pit. My SVO is the money pit/racecar........ Gotta love those 2.3 4 bangers.........
 
If any of you have discussed TSBs with a Mazda dealer, you know that they do NOT call you in for a fix or looksee. Mazda TSB policy is: If the customer complains of something abnormal that is covered by a TSB, then the
TSB fix is done. EXAMPLE: if there were a TSB for a loose brake caliper that caused a rattling noise and you took your car to a dealer because of a rattling noise, they would fix the caliper under the TSB.
Bottom line, IF anything is done, it will be a recall (as it was in Japan). So far only 4 people have reported trans mount failures to NHTSA. If you know of anyone with a failed mount, insist they notify the Feds!
 
justa4banger said:
ONCE again they have to have Solid proof, IE tow truck brings it from the track, with a track markings, and timeslips in the seat, along with my go fast safety gear :D

Actually i already talked to my service manager and he knows the car has been to the track he doesn't care, he knows its been on a dyno. he only request is it never get towed from a track and it looks stock once it comes in. His opinion is there are so few mS3 on the road, major work on a few here and there won't hurt no one.

I guess it does help i have a a good repour (sp) with the dealer/service dept. Then again i will never be so dumb to leave NON authorized MS parts on the car. the CAI is fine and thats proably all i'll do.
besides it seems to me that even making 300whp will be a difficult task in the MS3, Besides................Avatar check.

I love the MS3 it is fun and the CAI really woke it up, but in the end this is my daily commuter car, not my racecar, or money pit. My SVO is the money pit/racecar........ Gotta love those 2.3 4 bangers.........


omg 300 whp on a FWD.... I see some Mickey Thompson racing slicks in your future (usa)

I know of a friend in West Palm Bach, FL..... he has a civic with the H22 swap (from the Prelude) and has a turbo on it (can't recall what one, I think it's a probably a t04 or whatever the hell) But I have seen his dyno with 312 whp.... and when he "tries" to race...... horrible, just horrible...... he'll do a 30 mph with some friends on the highway and spin the tires. but definitely... 300 whp looks good on paper (lol2)

plus with the slicks and going to the track.... you should get some fasssssst times.

dragtimes.com has or had (if it's still there) a speed3 with drag radials and I think the gt3071r turbo upgrade and put down a nice 13 flat...... from somewhere in canada.
 
*********FLASH***************
From Tonkin Mazda:

Dear Mazda Dealer,



We regret to inform you that retail delivery of certain 2007 MAZDASPEED3 models in your inventory must immediately be suspended. Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct a voluntary Safety Recall (# 4607F) to replace the No. 4 engine mount bolt on certain 2007 MAZDASPEED3 vehicles produced from June 28, 2006 through May 19, 2007.



On certain MAZDASPEED3 vehicles, the No. 4 engine mount tightening bolt may loosen if a sudden/rapid acceleration is repeatedly performed. If the vehicle is continuously driven under such condition, the No. 4 engine mount bolt may loosen and fall out or break, allowing the transmission to be out of position. In extreme cases, the driveshaft may become detached. If this occurs the vehicle will immediately lose power, come to a stop and be inoperable.
 
:eek: Voluntary?? Can't wait to here more about this.

Rotus8 said:
*********FLASH***************
From Tonkin Mazda:

Dear Mazda Dealer,



We regret to inform you that retail delivery of certain 2007 MAZDASPEED3 models in your inventory must immediately be suspended. Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct a voluntary Safety Recall (# 4607F) to replace the No. 4 engine mount bolt on certain 2007 MAZDASPEED3 vehicles produced from June 28, 2006 through May 19, 2007.



On certain MAZDASPEED3 vehicles, the No. 4 engine mount tightening bolt may loosen if a sudden/rapid acceleration is repeatedly performed. If the vehicle is continuously driven under such condition, the No. 4 engine mount bolt may loosen and fall out or break, allowing the transmission to be out of position. In extreme cases, the driveshaft may become detached. If this occurs the vehicle will immediately lose power, come to a stop and be inoperable.
 
THANK YOU for posting that letter. I was to pick up my MS3 tomorrow morning and got a call about a stop sale. I figured it was for this. I am glad it will be taken care of (fingers crossed) before I take ownership!!

Thanks!
 
Just got a call from my Service Rep at my local Mazda dealer to come in to have my mounts inspected regarding the TSB.

Folks in NH, call Werner Mazda and talk to Kelly and she'll hook you up.
 
How lucky for you guys.... now if only the MS6 could get the damn rear ends taken care of (2thumbs)
 

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