400whp Msp Build UP

[BlkZoomZoom]

dammit I was hoping to hear it was running...

 

[Fast lane]

I hope it is.. i havent heard from Nick yet..i guess he's been busy all day...

dammit I was hoping to hear it was running...

 

[KzA]

What is Nick doing to your car again?

Just some small business...sensors and tuning and whatnot..

 

[Fast lane]

Oh ok... i thought maybe you were ready to beef up the internals...

 

[tracknfield423]

i apologize for the thread jack but fastlane, how much is your build costing you and are you covering everything or just i guess a basic build? i'm planning one and am curious on price range

 

[Fast lane]

i dont have an exact total..but its going to be pretty high up there when im done

 

[MPNick]

To make 400whp you need lots of fuel. Did not want any idle, cold start or poor lowend driving. So we installed a second fuel rail to hold four 39lbs injectors.

 

[MPNick]

To make 400whp you need lots of fuel. Did not want any idle, cold start or poor lowend driving. So we installed a second fuel rail to hold four 39lbs injectors.

More photos

 

[RyanJayG]

wait a tick.. why did you move the stock injectors around? iirc, stock is two purple on the left, two green on the right... the spray pattern being different between the two.

 

[Fast lane]

Nick your Amazing! the fuel rail and injector set up came out perfect, thanks for the pics.

 

[MPNick]

wait a tick.. why did you move the stock injectors around? iirc, stock is two purple on the left, two green on the right... the spray pattern being different between the two.

Looks better for the photo. They are back where they belong.

 

[RyanJayG]

ah, indeed... and it does look damn good... do I see some porting behind the throttle body port?

also, why not remove the VTCS?

I've gasket matched the intake for my MP3, and even though I dont have the VTCS flaps, I do have the ridges where they seat. I did it so I didn't even have to port the head at all... it mates perfectly.

 

[MPNick]

ah, indeed... and it does look damn good... do I see some porting behind the throttle body port?

also, why not remove the VTCS?

I've gaskter matched the intake for my MP3, and even though I dont have the VTCS flaps, I do have the ridges where they seat. I did it so I didn't even have to port the head at all... it mates perfectly.

I do not want to give up any lowend throttle responce or torque if I do not have to. If it looks like we are not getting the flow out of the inatke then I can remove them.

 

[Fast lane]

I dont think everyone realizes i want lowend power since this car will spend 90%of its time on the streets and not the track..

 

[RyanJayG]

I dont think the lask of VTCS will hurt low end... its more for emmisions.... and like I said before the MP3 never had it anyways.

 

[Fast lane]

the mp3 never came with it?? I thought it had the vtcs or something similar..

I dont think the lask of VTCS will hurt low end... its more for emmisions.... and like I said before the MP3 never had it anyways.

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

VTCS (variable tumbler control)is only activated below 3000rpm and ect temps under a certain temp (that I can't remember). This is also not a monitiored function by the pcm (meaning the pcm doesn't check to see if it's working). I'm not sure what lowend you would be losing by removing basically a blockage in the intake tract.

VICS (variable intake control) is what I would not want to remove. This is the system used to switch from long runner set-up to a short runner set-up above 5200rpm.

I know you are more than capable of making decisions on whats worth and whats not worth doing but since you ported the manifold anyways the thought "why not" comes to mind.

 

[RyanJayG]

the mp3 never came with it?? I thought it had the vtcs or something similar..

yeah... we have VICS, but no VTCS.

though our casting is the same... I have the bumps where the VTCS flaps seat. well, I used to.

VICS (variable intake control) is what I would not want to remove. This is the system used to switch from long runner set-up to a short runner set-up above 5200rpm.

also, the VICS, is kinda a weird system... it doesn't open to reveal shorter runners, it just opens up a larger chamber, changing the harmonics of the manifold... though several people hve toyed with making it dual runner.

 

[MPNick]

VTCS (variable tumbler control)is only activated below 3000rpm and ect temps under a certain temp (that I can't remember). This is also not a monitiored function by the pcm (meaning the pcm doesn't check to see if it's working). I'm not sure what lowend you would be losing by removing basically a blockage in the intake tract.

VICS (variable intake control) is what I would not want to remove. This is the system used to switch from long runner set-up to a short runner set-up above 5200rpm.

I know you are more than capable of making decisions on whats worth and whats not worth doing but since you ported the manifold anyways the thought "why not" comes to mind.

I know that with the STIs they have the same type of set up. Tumble valves, when we take them out the car does not idle as good or start as good. I do agree that more power could be made with them out. I want to see where we are before I go and take them out.

 

[Bigg Tim]

That IM looks f-ing great, definatly won't have any issues with fuel there. Any inline pumpa, or going to see what the stocker can do????????