1st Upgrade Poll

[MazdaSpeeder00]

It's just nice to know what's goin on. I have a boost gauge, but you can't yell at me, I have a MBC so I'm allowed to have one (wiggle)

lol, that makes sense though....but i myself could careless to know what my boost is at if i dont have any way of raising or lowering it. I guess it would be cool but it DEFINENTLY wouldnt be one of my first mods.

 

[GAspeedProtege]

Exhaust, our stock exhaust is very restrictive.

 

[prospeed]

wow....usually my cars cooled in the less-than-a-mile it takes to get from the interstate to my house. Also, the MSP turbo (as I've said time and time again) does not need a cool off period. It uses oil cooling and coolant cooling. When you shut the motor IF the turbo is hot enough to require cooling it actually syphons coolant through the system.. It's a very unique feature to this turbo. Garrett website has more info


i agree with turbo matty on the cool down part. since peaple are throwing ase certify around. i am an ase certified tech. i specialize in volvo which use garret and mitsu watercooled turbos. i even bought one with 150,000 miles with stock boost of 8psi. i ran it for another 20,000 milesat 15psi with no problems. i even seen water cooled turbos go over 200,000 miles. i never used a turbo timer and never will.

as for the boost gauge i would disagree. as of now i do not have boost controller in my car. but if you do other mods like a fmic or a turbo back exhaust it will tell something. my car went from 6.5psi area to 8.1 psi with no boost controller.

 

[MazdaSpeeder00]

as for the boost gauge i would disagree. as of now i do not have boost controller in my car. but if you do other mods like a fmic or a turbo back exhaust it will tell something. my car went from 6.5psi area to 8.1 psi with no boost controller.

Sorry I wasnt clear... It was said to buy that first....which there is no point. After mods then yes. Im buying my after my FMIC kit and Exhaust....

 

[prospeed]

what i was trying to say is if you plan on a fmic or exhaust i would get a boost gauge first.not just for upping the boost. you will see gains in boost with a good fmic and turbo back exhaust.

 

[mspdfreak]

Your first mod should be a hot girl in the passenger seat!(blowjob)

 

[MazdaSpeeder00]

Your first mod should be a hot girl in the passenger seat!(blowjob)

you were just trying to get post number 300... lmao but true

 

[Turbo Matty P]

FIRST THINGS FIRST.....any mod you do (even some you dont do) can and probably will void your warranty I will not go into great detail here but feel free to pm me with legal questions or warranty issues. I'm a wealth of knowledge about this topic.

Prospeed, good comment about the intercooler, intake and exhuats automatically upping the boost. I measured an almost 2psi boost drop through the factory plastic tubes and IC. this is unacceptable. My point was simply that our cars (msp's) will handle 2-5psi increase very safely with no adverse affects and without hitting boost cut in most cases. I would only be concerned with boost readings if you are managing the boost yourself or hitting boost cut under normal driving with small mods. Other than the the gauge is going to read 0's 80% of the time.

When doing an exhaust on a turbo car start at the problem...in this case it's the cast iron turbo outlet "S-pipe". This pipe was designed with a T25 flange and 2 large bends so it will mount up to the exhaust in the stock locations....NOT EFFECTIVE. Get on ebay and purchase a T25 exhaust flange and have a shop with 2.5" mandrel aluminum tack it on for you....THIS should be the starting point of your exhaust system. Removing that horrible maze immediatly behind the turbo will create spool up so fast you'll be at full boost by 2800rpms...(I was...wink wink at MNAO). Also, a CAI is unnecessary if you plan on using a good FMIC. The IC will cool the air....just get it into the turbo quickly. This will also decrease your lag. I'm all for boost controllers to up the boost, but PLEASE buy and install colder spark plugs AT THE TIME OF THE INSTALL. Do not go above 10psi. Buy AWR motor mounts (I prefer the auto bushings for their less harsh vibrations.).....and after all this is done...enjoy it for about 20K miles...Then kiss your clutch goodbye. Mine was glue after about 4K miles.

Enjoy the mazdaspeed but don't expect ANY more out of it without full EMS and forged internals.

*EDIT* p.s. I broke both motor mounts on the first clutch dump...I didn't even know it. I took it to the dealer to have the cd player replaced and they noticed it....after their huge test drive that wasn't authorized.

 

[noclue119]

FIRST THINGS FIRST.....any mod you do (even some you dont do) can and probably will void your warranty I will not go into great detail here but feel free to pm me with legal questions or warranty issues. I'm a wealth of knowledge about this topic.
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nope TT does not void ur warranty. This is because,

1. its not a mechinical change to ur car.
2. it a passive monitor device not an active controlling/hp gain device.

Thus my dealer told me that a TT would not void my warranty. In fact i already took it to them for other stuff and they fixed my car even with the TT installed..

But don't listen to me, listen to the mechinics.

 

[Turbo Matty P]

dude....like I said earlier without great detail I'm going to let you know this...ANYTHING you do (and some things you dont do) to your car can and probably will void your warranty. My dealer told me my warranty was voided at 3200 miles because I had spun the tires. If your dealer is ok with a turbo timer then you are ok with it. If your dealer finds washer nozzle LED's a problem then you're screwed. TRUST ME.

 

[noclue119]

dude....like I said earlier without great detail I'm going to let you know this...ANYTHING you do (and some things you dont do) to your car can and probably will void your warranty. My dealer told me my warranty was voided at 3200 miles because I had spun the tires. If your dealer is ok with a turbo timer then you are ok with it. If your dealer finds washer nozzle LED's a problem then you're screwed. TRUST ME.

I believe you man i'm not making fun of u... Actually i agree with you about most of the stuff u said. The only thing is i find a TT very useful. So that is my suggested first upgrade. If our car had a TT on it i'd get the exhaust as my next mod too. I use my TT in different ways then most people do, i.e. speed and RPM warning. That is where i'm coming from...(wiggle)

 

[II-Savy]

yea I feel the TT is waste of money also but the service manual does say to let the car cool down for 30 to 45 seconds before shutting it off. That's a fact. In addition there are a host of "mods" that are fine and a dealer will not be able to void your warr. They have to prove what you did broke the car.

I believe you man i'm not making fun of u... Actually i agree with you about most of the stuff u said. The only thing is i find a TT very useful. So that is my suggested first upgrade. If our car had a TT on it i'd get the exhaust as my next mod too. I use my TT in different ways then most people do, i.e. speed and RPM warning. That is where i'm coming from...(wiggle)

 

[Turbo Matty P]

will someone else please step in and silence all of the warranty-issue-know-it-alls???

Don't mess with the maestro man. You don't want to have this discussion with me.

 

[II-Savy]

I'm not sure who the "know it all's" are, but I have had several conversations with my dealer and most small things I mentioned were fine. I think it depends on the dealer and the mod we are talking about.

will someone else please step in and silence all of the warranty-issue-know-it-alls???

Don't mess with the maestro man. You don't want to have this discussion with me.

 

[Turbo Matty P]

In addition there are a host of "mods" that are fine and a dealer will not be able to void your warr. They have to prove what you did broke the car.

THIS is what I'm reffering to. Don't hold your breath. Also, sit down with your service manager and have a discussion over what mods will and won't void your warranty. Have him put in writing and sign the mods that will not void it. Keep it in a safe place. Dealers can tell you anything they want. What are you going to do about it?

 

[II-Savy]

I agree, sitting down with the dealer and discussing the mods you have or want is a good idea. In the long run I don't think Mazda USA will stand for dealers voiding warr left and right for stupid reasons ...IE a CAI or TT. Ok get back to work Matty!

THIS is what I'm reffering to. Don't hold your breath. Also, sit down with your service manager and have a discussion over what mods will and won't void your warranty. Have him put in writing and sign the mods that will not void it. Keep it in a safe place. Dealers can tell you anything they want. What are you going to do about it?

 

[Turbo Matty P]

I agree, sitting down with the dealer and discussing the mods you have or want is a good idea. In the long run I don't think Mazda USA will stand for dealers voiding warr left and right for stupid reasons ...IE a CAI or TT. Ok get back to work Matty!

you live in a fantasy world.

p.s. I'm at work.

 

[II-Savy]

you live in a fantasy world.

p.s. I'm at work.

Maybe but I can't see Mazda voiding anything cause your car takes in cold air. Maybe it happends but I don't see it as being commen place.

Your at work but not working...like me.(wiggle)

 

[Turbo Matty P]

Maybe but I can't see Mazda voiding anything cause your car takes in cold air. Maybe it happends but I don't see it as being commen place.

wow, is this your first new car?? first dealings with mazda?? You're in for a shock.

 

[II-Savy]

Actually yes and yes, 36 and it is my first new car AND my first Mazda. I'll be making an appointment soon for rear end creeking and I will go off if some A hole tells me my warr is void because of a CAI, homemade intercooler sprayer and fog lights.

wow, is this your first new car?? first dealings with mazda?? You're in for a shock.