11 psi safe?

[Pkay]

The fmic is the single most mod that prevents premature pings and detonations, I've read that in countless magazines.

ummm in some cars an FMIC can throw your a/f ratio off so much that it would cause problems... so that blanket comment is kinda null and void.... perfect example are cars that run lean (rx7's, supras, etc). FMIC is just going to benefit temperature. Not going to control A/F ratio's which is the only true way to insure you won't blow your engine.

If you're wanting to boost 11psi buying a downpipe would be more of a precaution than buying an FMIC. You can buy an FMIC and still be faced with the restrictive stock exhaust issues. Buying a good DP, using colder plugs, higher octane gas, reliable MBC/EBC, or best of all fuel management system is going to benefit you the most.

An FMIC would be a nice addition to any system but there are more vital things when dealing with upped boost.

 

[NeverSober]

Im not calling them pussies for not upping their boost. Im saying none of them have balls, all they do is copy the setup that others have. Wow your cool calling me a tough guy, wtf I didn't get on your case. Without the fmic you won't be running high boost for long. You will heatsoak very fast. I would go with the exhaust first however. And really I am never usually like this, just lately, it's just after the hundred's of threads EXACTLY like this, I start to get annoyed with it. So there you go slick.........


Chris

 

[StreakinOraNgeX]

Well even if your right, I live in California en for a very long time been thinking of going catless but have come to the conclusion that that would be a big mistake. I'm already hella orange, my bov is loud as **** en I can't afford a 1500 fine, ohh plus dark ass limo tints

 

[Pkay]

Im not calling them pussies for not upping their boost. Im saying none of them have balls, all they do is copy the setup that others have.

refresh me on your setup again?

 

[Pkay]

Well even if your right, I live in California en for a very long time been thinking of going catless but have come to the conclusion that that would be a big mistake. I'm already hella orange, my bov is loud as **** en I can't afford a 1500 fine, ohh plus dark ass limo tints

Get the Apex Cat'd DP. Perfectly legal with 90% of the gains.

 

[NeverSober]

ngk zfr7f11 plugs, spool cai, 1sty grounding kit, apex dp, Custom bosal axleback, anywhere from 10-16 psi. Changes depending on if I feel like eating up alot of gas. haha soon to come Wagner FMIC, custom 3" exhaust, rota sdr's and eibach's



Chris

 

[cmantucansam]

I've put a gt28ballbearing on my car with fmic, fuel system, and some s***, anyways, I run 16 pounds on high boost with a stock block and it works fine, overheating is what you need to worry about, thats how you crack a block.............booyakasha

 

[mspeed101]

I've put a gt28ballbearing on my car with fmic, fuel system, and some s***, anyways, I run 16 pounds on high boost with a stock block and it works fine, overheating is what you need to worry about, thats how you crack a block.............booyakasha

(jerkit)

 

[yashooa]

Damn this is one heated thread. I have been running 12PSI from 2000 miles on and I am around 44,000 miles now so far so good at 100 miles a day on 93 octane, stock plugs, with an Autometer 60mm boost gauge.
The car runs great the only things I really want to add are a mid pipe, an intake and a better IC preferably a SMIC.
I am anxiously waiting for DSM to get his shop open so I can buy some of those low cost goodies
Heat soak does suck the fat one (chair)

I don't beat the **** out of my car all the time. Somtimes I drive it hard but I drive it like a road car not a drag car. I like to downshift into corners and ease on the boost pushing it up just past 12PSI coming out of it and then blast into the next gear grinning all the way.
Of course there are those times I like to rev it to 2500RPM and do a nice smooth WOT launch all the way through until the end of third. Do not wheel hop your car or it will break, do not beat the s*** out of your car 24/7 or it will break and do not accellerate in 5th at over 10PSI in a haphazard way or you might find you rods taking a sudden vacation to Brokesville.
Be smart, boost smart, drive smart. End of story.

 

[sickspeed94]

Im not calling them pussies for not upping their boost. Im saying none of them have balls, all they do is copy the setup that others have. Wow your cool calling me a tough guy, wtf I didn't get on your case. Without the fmic you won't be running high boost for long. You will heatsoak very fast. I would go with the exhaust first however. And really I am never usually like this, just lately, it's just after the hundred's of threads EXACTLY like this, I start to get annoyed with it. So there you go slick.........


Chris

definately not trying to srick my nose in other's business, but if you're so annoyed with it, why not juts not read/post in said threads, i mean it's actualy easier not to have to click them and type all this s*** out, people don't know, and try searching "MBC" or any of those words that you would search to find this, and you'll be findins different information for days, leave people who don't know much alone, maybe even take the time to calmly answer their questions and then suggest using the search fiunction. all this crappy yelling and s*** an no one will learn s***. i use this board for much of my information, but i certainly dopn't use it to listen to a bunch of people who know more than anyone else call everyone else noobs and pussies because they have a question that's been asked before.

sorry for the threadjack

 

[jurgs01]

*jurgs*Wow your retarded. Im just not gonna comment on that............

And when did I say that I was a bigshot for running higher boost? All I said was people are being bitches about turning the boost up a little bit. Jesus get some balls and try things out on your own, Like I said before you gotta pay to play, so If you don't have money or don't want to sit around for awhile for a new motor then don't touch it, leave it alone.

Chris

Retarded?? You are putting bulls*** in thread where people who don't know much about this car want people's honest opinions about what they should do. All you had to do was come in here and say this is what I am doing and it is working for me and calling everyone else names. I may be retarded, but I have to deal with and train little immature people like you all the time to become men. You need to grow up and try to start helping people. This forum is a great thing and is a big help to a lot of people. Some kid who maybe worked hard to pay for this car is going to hear you say something and think it's safe to raise his boost when in all actuality it is a risk that he needs to be informed might damage his motor at some time. I shouldn't have poked fun at what you said, but please try to be more constructive with your posts.

 

[NoVaMSP]

it really does have alot to do with how you drive it , you can blow your s*** up at 7psi too. dont shift at 6k rpm constantly especially in 1-3 high rpms will kill faster then a couple pounds of boost. with the stock turbo/bottom i prob wouldnt run more then 12 as a daily and no more then 14-15 at the track . get some engine mangment. no ghetto s*** get a piggy back or a standalone . ive had bad experiances with colder plugs sluggish/hesitation/fouling early - stock heat range should be fine for less then 1 bar boost . if you blow your s*** up at 11psi- you can more then likly blame your self for driving around like a freak and not blame the 4 extra pounds of boost

 

[03MSPRO]

OMFG almost all of you guys are such bitches. Don't boost over 9 psi this and that. Jesus, there is more then enough fuel, the car runs extremely rich stock. There is more then enough fuel to run 9-10 psi daily with no other mads. I believe yashooa has been running 12 psi for quite sometime. 40,000 miles or something like that. Ive run 16psi with 2.5in DP, intake, fpr, and an axle back and my car is still running stong. I run 10psi daily, and once I get a new boostcontroller it is going back up to 12-13 psi daily. Stop being bitches about everything and just do it. If you don't have the money to fix something when it blows up, then don't boost it at all. Gotta pay to play.


Chris

there's more to it than just dumping tons of fuel.
and don't believe everything you read, specially on a forum.

 

[NeverSober]

I didn't say it was all about fuel, I just said that there was more then enough. I have just been really annoyed lately with other things and this just put me over the top haha. Just see so many of these. But the majority of people have no problem running 10psi daily on an otherwise stock to litely modded car. I have been running alot of different numbers in my car. From around 18psi to stock psi. And I have had no problem with the car. Most of the time I run 10 psi, but before my mbc got messed up I ran 12 daily which I will be running once I get a new mbc. Jus tbe sure to get colder plugs and do beat ont he car to much and you will be fine. But personally I beat the piss out of the car. And I have had to pay for it but it was not the engine, it was the tranny. The motor is alot stronger then most people think it is. Just be safe


Chris

 

[Pkay]

you already ran through your tranny?

 

[NeverSober]

This was at 8k miles.

 

[jurgs01]

This was at 8k miles.

Damn, thought it was an automatic?

J/k. At least that probably was replaced at the dealership under warrantee. Do you race, or just drive the car hard?

 

[Black Majik MSP]

<~~ agreeing with neversober, engine seems to be quite a bit beefier than most would think. there are msps out there that have kinks and if they boost 10 they might pop but that is not the norm. discreet and t3ase pushed the envelope VERY far and engines are doing fine

Discreet's engine is NOT fine. (smash)

 

[Pkay]

Discreet's engine is NOT fine. (smash)

yeah i thought I heard something about his crapping out

 

[Shane-O]

It will be fine, I have run higher boost then that with no fmic and on 93 octane. You will be fine.


Chris

Haha, I'm right where your at. But I do worry in the back of my mind, I have that Blitz dtt with it logged onto the electric boost gauge all the time. I hven't even got it past 8psi with my new MBC except when I installed it and spiked it at 11. Oh well, the real question is how much does it cost to rebuild one of our engines? I mean if it's like 1,000 bux but you beat the piss out of a loudmouth integra or something, it might be worth it...j/k of course!