Do you really wanna get salty with me?
I'm glad he likes the car, cause they are in fact nice ass cars, BUT they don't have a killer aftermarket like the SRT does.
silver ecstasy why dont you go preach your vagina mods in your own threads no one cares about what you think people should mod first, spending 600 for your car to gain zero to maybe 2 hp for a catback is pointless, no one wants to hear your opionions either, i run an hks vta and its fine(knock on wood) not saying forge is bad but to say vta doesnt work on this car isnt true, you can always get an hks and recirculate it
i prefer not to mess up threads anymore so il leave your stupidity aloneSilly youngin..
For the record, running a BOV on a car that's supposed to run recirc is rice..Why are you running it VTA? For performance? For total sound? That sounds like just as much of a waste of money. Cobb puts it best:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123741769
And also, I started that thread to start an EDUCATED conversation about our cars and REAL PROOF about mods. Not just bulls*** seat-of-the-pants butt-dyno "impressions" that people think is worth gold when they're shopping for mods.
And in terms of this thread, thanks for ******* it all up for the OP. Atleast we don't have to worry about you giving advice to a new MS3 owner.
silver ecstasy why dont you go preach your vagina mods in your own threads no one cares about what you think people should mod first, spending 600 for your car to gain zero to maybe 2 hp for a catback is pointless, no one wants to hear your opionions either, i run an hks vta and its fine(knock on wood) not saying forge is bad but to say vta doesnt work on this car isnt true, you can always get an hks and recirculate it
you can run VTA but the result is power loss. race an MS3 thats equally modded to yours thats running recirc. and see if you dont end up behind him
please explain to me how running vta will make you run slower? other than rich between shifts under wot everything is the same the bov/bpv is closed until you let off the gas so to say the car is slower makes no sense?
read this whole thread and you will see why. and my car was considerably slower and sluggish when i ran my Type S in VTA. it was such a downgrade in performance, i could only stand running the car in VTA for 5 mins tops before i put it back in recirc.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123741769
Travis@COBB said:The OEM ECU uses the MAF sensor to calculate the amount of air in the system. Since the engine was designed as a complete system, the ECU assumes that the MAF is always accurate and requests an amount of fuel appropriate to the air it believes is in the system. A VTA BOV is essentially a massive intermittent boost leak, which the ECU was not designed to compensate for. So, when the VTA opens and all of the air that has been accounted for leaves the system, the result is over-fueling for the small amount of air left in the system when the VTA closes again. This causes a brief rich condition which can cause a stumble in acceleration and/or a backfire. Performance will be decreased during this rich condition.
From reading that thread, I didn't get "you will be fine" at all...
cobb basically said the same thing i said, you will run fine and will not be slower at wot, only in between shifts but i dont care unless im at the track or racing, and if i am im powershifting anyway
read beyond what cobb stated. two posters posed great arguements that makes perfect sense.
thats why i said to read the WHOLE thread
by the way, have you gone to the track? if so, what time of times have you run so far with your mods?
since this thread is already ******, cobb clearly said that you might get some backfires and run rich between shifts but never once said a power loss
swap out the wheels for speed6 wheels, they look so much better on the 3.
I'll be posting up mine for sale soon (shameless plug) lol
LOL, is that an eThreat? (bowdown)
Just because the MS3 is a car with less aftermarket appeal, doesn't make it any less valuable. Especially when the OP SPECIFICALLY stated that he isn't going to mod hardly at all and enjoys the overall improvement the MS3 has to offer over his SRT4. And you go spouting off about how it's a "downgrade" because of the aftermarket support for the SRT4??
