Good Bass?

MazdaBoi318

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01 Mazda Protege LX
Well hello everyone,

I am just wondering what kinda power do i need to have a good Bass system? I dont really know anything about Car audio so can someone inform me on what i would need to have a killer Bass system?

i want 2 12''s so please help me out

Is that better!?
 
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It's about getting the right amp for the right speakers and the right enclosure for the job.

You want booming bass I assume so I would go with a ported box for starters.

What kind of setup do you want? 2 subs, 1 sub? and more subs doesn't mean more bass. it's either all the amp to one or split between two smaller. I have a dual sub setup myself.

How much you willing to spend?
 
this is a good read on all things audio. just skim till you find the section on your particular subject.

If you post what kind of budget you are working on you'll get more detailed responses and places to buy.

you in school? looking for middle of the road? want high end? or do you just want your car to rattle like a mofo and you don't care how?

woops forgot the link:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69147
 
I would like to have 2, 12'' i really dont have a price range right now becuse i will be saving up for it.

what is a good budget?
 
I am in school...high school. I want to be able to pop my trunk and have meeeannn bass! and people to hear me down the block.
 
MazdaBoi318 said:
I would like to have 2, 12'' i really dont have a price range right now becuse i will be saving up for it.

what is a good budget?

ask Chyuler and he'll say 2 grand cause he builds quality setups, goes to competitions and s***.

point is the budget depends on you. I'd say if you are looking to just get an amp and some subs around 500 bucks should be plenty for a setup that gives you some bump in the trunk. You can certainly spend more or less but there are tradeoffs. Go out to crutchfield.com and start reading some reviews on the 12" subs. See if you find somebody that sounds like they appreciate what you are looking for. Pick 2 that you like. Come back and we'll find a good amp for them.
 
yea i was just looking for an amp and some sub's. so about 500, ok. i see on ebay there are a lot of good deals. what do i look out for.
 
Actually I just saw this out there they have some sub/amp/box combos on crutchfield too. everything put together for you. there is a rockford setup for around 350 + free shipping that I would recommend. Prolly won't get much better than that deal on ebay.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ygkqLbD0elR/cgi-bin/prodgroup.asp?g=208250&avf=N&pg=1


If you go to ebay look closely at the RMS wattage of the Sub. that is what you are looking to match up with the amp. Maxx wattage is a crap number and useless (same goes for the amp wattage).

Don't get more sub for less money. you get what you pay for. if you find some speakers on ebay go to crutchfield or do a search and find some reviews on it and comparable prices before you buy. If you can't find that brand anywhere else stay away.

You'll need a box, a 2 or 4 channel(brigable) amp
 
MazdaBoi PM'ed me but I might as well post here also.

For just plain and simple "my car is cooler than yours highschool parkinglot drama" bass, I'd recommend getting a package deal from Crutchfield. Here are several to fit your needs.

MTX RT12X2A Sub & MXA 3002 Amp Combo 300w RMS ($279)
Alpine Amp & Dual 12" Subs, Box Combo 400w RMS ($379 -but out of stock)
MTX Amp & Dual 12" Subs, Box Combo 400w ($499)
Alpine Amp & Dual 12" Subs, Box Combo 600w ($599)

It takes the guess work out of matching subs and amps and they come with a box. All you need is an amplifier wiring kit and you are good to go.

Sure, you could go with a more powerfull setup but we're talking highschool here not OutlawSPL competitions. Any of these packages is a great starting point for someone new to car audio. You can build on this with a second amp and some nice speakers later on (after the ooos and ahhhs of having bass have passed).

Save the rest of your money for a spiffy tux for your prom and some nice flowers for your girlfriend.
 
MazdaBoi318 said:
how about best buy and cuircuit city....whats up wit them

You get free shipping with crutchfield so I don't even know why you would mess with circuit city or any other retailer that doesn't specalize in setups.
 
ahhh... high school. seems like ages ago...

follow what chuyler has to say. do you already have a good headunit? no point having "meeeannn bass" when your headunit sucks.
 
Hea already has a Pioneer head unit (mentioned it in the PM).

Bestbuy and Circuit city may not have the products I listed. They generally get low-end products and sell them at retail. It looks like a deal but its not. With crutchfield you get the real thing. Subs and amps that will last a lifetime if you take care of them.

Listen, I have searched far and wide. At one time or another I have purchased audio equipment from Circuit City, local stores, online stores, eBay, and Crutchfield. Don't say "what about..." because I have already been there and done it. Go with Crutchfield. They know their s*** The Crutchfield package deal prevents you from ******* it up because they match subs with speakers the way they are supposed to be.

The package deals BB and CC promote are absolute crap bottom of the barrel stuff that they wouldn't be able to give away to people that know better. If someone offered me a BB or CC package deal for free I wouldn't take it. (OK, maybe I would, but I'd prolly just sell it on eBay and use the cash to buy some real gear).

I have bought from eBay and been burned by eBay sellers. I still buy from them but I am very cautious and I KNOW what I am looking for. I search for specific models that are discontinued and I check the sellers and bidders before every considering a purchase. I don't recommend people buy from eBay because I'm not going to police their bidding and follow a thread that starts with something "is this a good deal?" and "what about this?".

I have bought from unauthorized online stores too...and one of them dissappeared before my warranty was up. I was SOL when the amp stopped working. I won't do that again, and I won't recommend a non-authorized internet seller to anyone.

So I recommend Crutchfield because they have competitive prices, offer free shipping on many products and if you spend enough, shipping is always free. You can also get $20 off by using a referal.
Here's my code: pxp28-h1tsx-wtqe3 (Use it to get $20 off)

So if you want to be a penny pincher and buy something from BB, CC, or eBay...go ahead...but don't come crying to me when it doesn't work or sound the way you want it to.
 
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this is the head unit i have for everyon wondering,

I think i am going to get one of the packages, 600 will take me like 3 weeks to get.

Overall, what do you guys thing is the best package they have to offer?
 

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MazdaBoi318 said:
this is the head unit i have for everyon wondering,

I think i am going to get one of the packages, 600 will take me like 3 weeks to get.

Overall, what do you guys thing is the best package they have to offer?

pick one. If I had a choice I'd take the 600W system over the 300.
 
Personally I'd say don't spend toomuch on something like this. get something that looks cool to you and whatever. If it's loud, that's fine, but remember ADVERTISE THAT YOU'VE GOT A STEREO AND IT WILL BE REMEMBERED. There's a progression to things. Chuyler is starting to sound as jaded as myself and 1sty.

Not trying to discount the experience for you, we've all been through it, but we've all wasted alot of money, time and effort on crap as well. THe BIGGEST DEAL with any of what you're looking into is getting a decent box. IF you do go ported be VERY SURE it's properly done, not just a random generic box with holes in it. Bandpass has its merits, but ANYTHING at the level you're considering is an entirely worthless waste of space (oddly the reson they suck is because because they don't use enough of it)

THere is no one brand or anythign els ethat trumps all others the typical "my buddy has brand X and it frekin hits" conversatiosn will go on in the hallways, and so it goes. boom is fun, but it does not a "system" crete. a stereo system is all encompassing, not just bump in the trunk.

WHen one says "GOOD Bass" most of us think of a single 10, perhaps 8 or maybe a 12 tucked away neatly in a well designed enclosure (often the enclosure will cost much more than the driver) to provide subbass to Transparantly fill in the sonic range where door speakers leave off.

Allthat said. If you're looking bang for the buck, I've always insisted that it's much better to get a single larger speaker than a pair. ONE 15 has roughly 95% the surface area of 2 12's. think about it, pay $30 more for a couple more inches, or pay a hundred plus for a second sub....
 

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