Is this with Sport mode enabled or regular mode?
Transmission shifting behavior AWD
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Is this with Sport mode enabled or regular mode?
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What is sport mode?
russiankid
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That's not sport mode.
MidwestCX5
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I couldn't really tell if there was a shifting delay of not from the video, but I definitely notice the delay when I'm driving my CX-5 (2.5L AWD). The transmission shakes you around a little bit when it upshifts in Auto, but it's much smoother when I switch to the manual mode.
russiankid
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When you're WOT, it'll shift perfectly fine, but if you're puttin' around town that's where it gets weird.
Maybe Mazda tuned the shift logic differently on the 2.5L? I think the 2.0L shifting is the best I've experienced. Crisp, smooth and it has a nearly telepathic connection to the accelerator pedal and brake.
I love the downshifting behavior when using the brakes to slow down.
SayNoToPistons
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I find that the 2015 2.5L's transmission programming has everything I love about the 2013 2.0L's transmission, but Mazda turned it up a notch. Shifting is noticeably quicker and smooth both in auto and manual mode. That applies for both manual mode and auto. Shifts are matched perfectly and lock-up is quicker. In the 2013, there is a slight delay before lock up even from 2nd going into 3rd.
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My 2.5 shifts telepathically as well.
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Mine shifts fine. Best auto I've driven (not many, but I did test drive a 370z with auto, and it was terrible compared to the cx5.)
MidwestCX5
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I prefer the CX-5 transmission over the one in the GMC Terrain. I loved the transmission in my old W8 Passat, but I really don't think it was designed with efficiency being the top priority. The transmission in the CX-5 is very good, but the shifts could be smoother.
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I love the shifts. The shifts are not smoother because smooth shifts come from tq converter inefficiency, and the transmission spending a lot of time wearing the bands. The CX5 uses clutches, as I understand it, and I would rather it last longer than shift smoother. To me, it feels like it felt when I had a manual. very very similar sensations of shifting to when I was having an "on" day and rev-matching well in my vette. I love it. It holds a gear even under load in the name of efficiency and avoiding the ever-annoying "hunting" that most I4 and even V8 vehicles suffer from in mountain passes.
Most impressive was when I STABBED the throttle, and immediately backed off, and then punched it again...it was still in the gear it had downshifted to! The 370Z was confused as hell and freaked the sales rep out when I did that when she said "So why wouldn't you buy this one? It has everything you want, except it's auto", and I had to show her how annoyingly fickle autos could be.
mazdadude
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The SPORT/ECONO switch was added for the CX-5 on the 2016 model year vehicles.
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No. It's an econobox with a naturally aspirated 4-banger, and an SUV to boot. Mine has nothing of the sort.
Here is mine (2.5L AWD) shifting at part throttle. I don't perceive lag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjFkbriN1XE
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MidwestCX5
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I guess what I notice is that the shifts are quick, but the engine does not want to rev higher after the shift so the power delivery feels inconsistent.
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You're probably used to a regular slushbox. What happens in a slushbox (what I call old-school inefficient 4-speed autos) is that you have a TON of slippage on the bands between gears. This gives constant delivery of power to the driveline, but it wears the transmission out fast (See: Crown Vic), and it's very inefficient, and you get shift-flair early on in the life of the transmission, especially in hot climates.
The SkyActiv, on the other hand, actually waits until the shift has taken place to re-apply power, and it shifts pretty darn snappily. It reminds me of a very competently driven manual, which is kindof what it is.
MidwestCX5
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This makes sense. The car I replaced was a Highlander Hybrid V6 w/ CVT and front and rear electric motors so there were just no shifts to wait for.
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Yeah, goes double for CVT's, except to say, their mechanism of action is completely different.
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Gearing!
My 370Z was dead-even with the C5 corvette in every timed test I've seen, 0-60, 5-10, 1/4 mile, etc.
It had 332bhp and 272# torque. Based on dyno numbers I have seen, that is honestly rated.
The C5 had 350hp, and 385# of torque. Those are also honest numbers.
They weighed within 100# or so of each other. They both had 6-speed manuals.
By the numbers, both rated, and actual dyno generated, the C5 should have stomped the 370Z. Did not occur.
Gearing!
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