The Ohio Random Thread... aka We Should Probably Be Working
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For those interested, here is Phil's Rotary History (past and present):
1993 MB RX-7, 1972 Orange RX-2 coupe, 2004 Lighting Yellow GT RX-8
1985 GSL-SE RX-7 mint!
1991 RX-7 convertible (first rotary I bought)
1973 RX-3 coupe (track ready)
1993 RX-7 base blk/blk (my first FD)
1991 Eunos Cosmo 3 Rotor
1994 SSM FD (My other project)
Project Last RX7
Dude knows his rotary powered cars
1993 MB RX-7, 1972 Orange RX-2 coupe, 2004 Lighting Yellow GT RX-8
1985 GSL-SE RX-7 mint!
1991 RX-7 convertible (first rotary I bought)
1973 RX-3 coupe (track ready)
1993 RX-7 base blk/blk (my first FD)
1991 Eunos Cosmo 3 Rotor
1994 SSM FD (My other project)
Project Last RX7
Dude knows his rotary powered cars
Jess posted a meme on FB a while ago but I can't find it. I hate those "built not bought" stickers. The meme that Jess posted said "oh your car is built not bought? Your basement must look like this...." and then had a picture to the tune of:
I'm sorry the two black FD's are sick. Timeless body lines and design
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Haha, nice. I also like when people say they have a motor that's "fully bolted". Well, yeah, what other option do you have? Are you going to weld everything into place?
There aren't many epic builds going on here in M247 because this is a Protege forum and like someone said, it's all budget builds or long projects. There are some pretty nice builds on MSF but mostly for street or drag racing.
There aren't many epic builds going on here in M247 because this is a Protege forum and like someone said, it's all budget builds or long projects. There are some pretty nice builds on MSF but mostly for street or drag racing.
I'm bored too. That and unmotivated completely.
This is a good point, however its different dropping in a short/long block that is a build of what was there vs. dropping in a completely different crate motor. The fab/work it takes to swap subframes and motor mounts and make transmissions and supporting items work is way above and beyond what many people are doing anymore. Hell, Evan's V6 protege project was awesome.
That's pretty funny because I think the same thing. That and "its a bolted stage X build". Stage mean s*** unless its full packages from a single fab company. Like the GTRs, the AMS Alpha packages mean something. Your hacked together AP, ebay manifold, some turbo other than stock, and some homebrew intake is not a stage anything.
Again sorry MS3/6 guys, no offense meant here, but the other Mazdaspeed Neon owners are the worst
Sure. I have some spark plugs for ya
I've only researched LS swaps but those can be 100% bolt-in affairs for just about every GM model. It is for all Camaros, Chevelles, Novas, Vettes & trucks anyway. Even when sticking with an old iron block it's still cheaper/easier to go with a crate engine vs. building a block for most.
The KL/Protege swap uses all the same mounting points on the chassis for the motor and trans mounts, it's the wiring that is a b**** on the KL swap.
Man, I haven't been to a Menchies meet since last year, but I have plans tonight. I feel bad, I keep trying to make it out, but it always ends up my son has other ideas, and my wife doesn't want to stay out late anymore since she works every other weekend now. Maybe one of these Fridays.
Yea, I know they keep making it easier and easier, however, there is still work involved. I guess my point is, its still a decent job vs. Buying a BNR stage 3 and doing a weekend install and being back on the road with a new tune in 1-2 days.
The case of buying a preassembled block with forged internals was popular on the MZR platform. But nowadays there's a fair amount of people doing the assembly themselves (just having the machine work done). I think a part of it is now, People finally understand what boundaries can be pushed, versus a year ago when stuff was still in question.
I plan on doing a built motor once I can actually set aside some money specifically for that purpose. It can't happen soon enough
The route I am taking with the motor I am building is going to have the machinist assemble the bottom end for me. Those measurements have to be damn near dead on and he does it for a living. So it was just another $100 for him to do it. So that is my plan.
Just curious, what direction are you going, bought shortblock or do the assembly yourself. If you need some help with assembly, or an engine hoist/stand, don't hesitate to ask.
I certainly don't mean to downplay shortblocks, because hell, they are inexpensive, and part of what makes the MS3/6 platform awesome. In fact, if I could save some money on a shortblock vs rebuilding myself, it would be a no-brainer. I just don't understand the hesitation of some. With the ammount of info available (FSM and overhaul manuals) easily available. If you can manage HPFP internals, and swapping a turbo, you can certainly install forged internals and time your heads without trouble.
Nice.
Medina Mountain Motors does great work on speed balancing cranks and bore/hone cylinders for a decent price.
R&R Engine on Schwartz Road in Akron does good head work for a great price.
Gable's Machine & Engine does great work all around.
As for finding tolerances, Plastigauge is easy to use, and cheap.
