Fixed Mount Roof Rack

dahlberg123

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2013 Mazda CX-5 AWD Touring w/Tech
Does anyone have a fixed mount roof rack system installed or know of one that exists? It seems like it's a better option than installing the factor rails and then aftermarket crossbars and mounts.
 
I had one but it was too limiting since the mounting points are so far apart. The Factory inserts are about 42" IIRC, which is great for kayaks and canoes but is too long for most bike mounts and cargo boxes. I ended up drilling the roof and installing a Whispbar Track system which is stronger, more versatile and lower than the factory raised rails. I did a thread about it but I'll have to dig to find it.

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I had one but it was too limiting since the mounting points are so far apart. The Factory inserts are about 42" IIRC, which is great for kayaks and canoes but is too long for most bike mounts and cargo boxes. I ended up drilling the roof and installing a Whispbar Track system which is stronger, more versatile and lower than the factory raised rails. I did a thread about it but I'll have to dig to find it.

Thanks. I was hoping to avoid the additional costs of having to buy the factory rails plus the rest of the junk that goes with that.
 
I do. I used the Yakima Control Tower 11's. Worked fine. You will only be able to use one mounting point (there are 2) so in the front use the one closest to the rear and vice versa in the back (it will clear the shark fin). Should be around 43-44" apart so be mindful of what you buy to mount your bikes, etc. I think mine are steel heads. You will also need to take off the plastic trim that runs along the top of the car to access the mouting points. Cut it flush to the mounting point that you'll use. I actually used some silicone just to make sure the molding wasnt going anywhere...It will take a couple hours. I used a hacksaw to cut through the molding (the steel will chew up any dremel/mitre saw blade not engineered to cut steel).
 
I used the Yakima fixed point system, Landing Pads on the forward mounting points _both_ front and back. This gives about a 48" spread front to rear which is pretty good for carrying our 16' relatively flexible kayak. Using the forward instead of rear mounting points for the front bar also helps level the bars; the front bar is about one inch higher than the rear, not bad. After the landing pads are in place and the Yakima crossbars and towers are set up, they are very quick and easy to put on and take off. The landing pads stay on the roof, they are fairly large and noticeable but I got used to it. Once they are in place I don't want to be taking them off and putting them back on, they just stay on the car and it's ok.

I drilled holes in the trim strips for the bolts to go through to hold down the landing pads. It was a bit tricky to mark and drill the strips in the right places and I had to drill out the holes pretty large, but the landing pad totally covers them up so no worries. It's nice to keep the trim strip all in one piece. Also I bought a set of nylon spudgers at Harbor Freight for like five bucks and they are invaluable for prying loose the strips without worrying about nicking paint. Also useful for interior trim such as popping off the dashboard speaker covers.

For carrying a rooftop ski box, the 48" spread is too wide--the clamps on the box don't spread that far apart front to rear--and while using the rear mounting points for the front bar would make the spread about 42" and the box could mount to them, it would be so far back that it would hang past the rear hatch. So, I used 3/4" (ID) galvanized pipe (close to same OD as Yakima bars) and Kee Klamps to make a set of front-to-rear rails with a single crossbar that can be slid to desired location and tightened down. The front mounting clamps on the box attach to the front Yakima crossbar, the rear clamps attach to the pipe crossbar and I can put the box exactly where I want it. Works great, although without the box the setup howls and costs about 3 mpg. I had to spend some time on the pipe setup, had to grind the openings a bit larger on the Klamps and round some edges, but eventually got it to work and now it's not too hard to put on and take off, although there are bolts and setscrews to deal with. I used four Kee Klamps type 16-5 for the rails and two type 10-5 for the crossbar. Not cheap but they work and are unobtrusive in appearance. Got them from Simplified Building Concepts.

While I at first was annoyed that this Mazda did not have good full-length roof rails like my old Passat Wagon, this setup now that it's been worked out is pretty good--it's a lot easier to remove the crossbars now than it was with the Passat.

You mentioned cost--the Mazda rails aren't that bad price-wise; I think you'll end up spending a few hundred no matter which way you go. I carry a boat or a long box, so my setup works for me. If one were carrying bicycles or similar that needed a shorter spread, the factory rails with aftermarket crossbars might be a better choice.
 
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Works great, although without the box the setup howls and costs about 3 mpg.

Wow! I've always known roof racks killed fuel economy but I didn't think it would be that bad. I wonder how much worse it is with a top-box mounted? In any case, 3 mpg lost would be exactly like paying 10 percent more for fuel. Fuel in my area is $3.69/gal. so it would be like paying $4.06/gallon. Ouch! That would be enough to encourage me to remove the racks when they weren't being used.
 
They gave me the original Mazda roof rails as part of the deal, but they're still packed in the garage.
After reading what rjdee wrote ("but is too long for most bike mounts and cargo boxes") I'm a little bit concerned...
I'll have to unpack and try them asap, hoping that my cargo box will fit.
 
They gave me the original Mazda roof rails as part of the deal, but they're still packed in the garage.
After reading what rjdee wrote ("but is too long for most bike mounts and cargo boxes") I'm a little bit concerned...
I'll have to unpack and try them asap, hoping that my cargo box will fit.

What I was referencing was the Yakima Control tower/LP11 mount. They can only mount at the threaded points in the roof. I used a Skybox 12 which hit the rear fairing.
The factory crossbars are adjustable along the factory raised rails. You'll have more adjustability. It depends on the length of your box, the amount of adjustability of the box hardware, and the forward-most position on the front crossbar.
 
Wow! I've always known roof racks killed fuel economy but I didn't think it would be that bad. I wonder how much worse it is with a top-box mounted? In any case, 3 mpg lost would be exactly like paying 10 percent more for fuel. Fuel in my area is $3.69/gal. so it would be like paying $4.06/gallon. Ouch! That would be enough to encourage me to remove the racks when they weren't being used.

My mileage experience hasn't been that dramatic a difference. I average 30-31mpg a tank with a box, 33ish with a rack but no box. Box is a Skybox 12, Long but skinny design. My driving style is what I call motivated. 70-75 on highway and usually shift around 25-3000rpm with some runs to 5000rpm a few times per tank. I've been running a rack from the beginning (June '13) and have over 22,000 miles on the car now.
 
I average 30-31mpg a tank with a box, 33ish with a rack but no box.
You do better than me. I too have the Skybox 12. With box on roof on a couple recent ski trips, at 70mph or so I got about 28. When a bad snowstorm on one trip slowed us to 40mph it went up to like 33. With Yakima bars only it howls, and howls more if I add my galvanized pipe armature. Adding the box or a boat quiets the noise. I recently took all of it off and the mpg gain was immediately apparent. I haven't studied it closely, but it seems that just the bars create a lot of the mpg cost, and adding the box doesn't make it a lot worse.

But I still like the Yakima bars because they are so easy to just completely remove when not needed.

I wish I could cut that Skybox 12 about two inches shorter--can't put the CX5 in my garage with box on roof.
 
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I bought and installed the Rhino Racks
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They are stand alone. I like them - a bit noisy but not too bad. I still get avg 30-32mpg and they are very simple and clean
 
I bought and installed the Rhino Racks
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They are stand alone. I like them - a bit noisy but not too bad. I still get avg 30-32mpg and they are very simple and clean

How do the Rhino bars mount on the CX? I was looking at buying a set of these, and the video shows that they clamp on the door sills. But in your picture it looks like they are in the rain trays. Can you adjust the space between the bars to fit different things like bikes, or cargo carriers?
 
I bought and installed the Rhino Racks
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They are stand alone. I like them - a bit noisy but not too bad. I still get avg 30-32mpg and they are very simple and clean


I have ordered the Rhino Rack system to mount as stand alones as well. My roof gutters are with a solid plastic strip and no access points. Did you have that as well? If so how did you overcome this?
Thanks!
 
Pop the strips off and there are threaded mounting points underneath. Use a nylon spudger to get under the strip in front, and gently pry it off clip by clip-not difficult, just be gentle and don't kink the strip, it's aluminum. I drilled holes in my strip to run bolts through to attach the landing pads. Some people cut sections out of their strips.
 
Yes, What CCR76 said is spot on.

These Rhino Racks mount perfectly in existing female threaded posts (which are already under the rain gutters). The instructions are pretty poor BUT its all self explanatory once you pop off the black rubber/aluminum rain gutters.

These Racks are great so far. I can carry 1 - 4 4 x 8 sheets of plywood or sheetrock for example. I have to drive slow but that's OK.
 
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