Berty's Cosmo

A good LSD and some decent rubber will help alot but its always gonna wheelspin no matter what u do.
the factory lsd would be rubbish by now esp with much more power.
Just invest in some good soft tyres as wide as u can fit and go from there.

I wouldnt go changing the springs just yet, u dont wanna go too soft because more squat = more camber which means less tyre on the road.
 
Berty

not sure if you know him, I guy has posted a vid on you tube in April this year of his single turbo 20b Cosmo (manual box) the vid is Cosmo 20b TUF 208 #3
he is having the same problem it is spinning up on high boost and has to fight a bit to correct it,, might be worth contacting him to see what he has or is doing to sort it out,, just an idea,, 2 heads better than one if you know what I mean

Awesome video. I had emailed him a while ago but I haven't had a chat to him since.

A good LSD and some decent rubber will help alot but its always gonna wheelspin no matter what u do.
the factory lsd would be rubbish by now esp with much more power.
Just invest in some good soft tyres as wide as u can fit and go from there.

I wouldnt go changing the springs just yet, u dont wanna go too soft because more squat = more camber which means less tyre on the road.

My car is a series two, so I have already got a torsen diff in it, not the viscous LSD that came in earlier cars. The diff is pretty healthy also but I am willing to entertain the idea of a 1.5 way diff.

I can fit 295s OR 305s onto my current rims but I may just look at some better tyres in the 265 size.

What about that rear end Skyline set up that came of the Cosmo that got stolen and burnt out?
http://forums.teameunos.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3897
Kramer

I have been thinking about that one, but AFAIK the R32 GTR has a Torsen diff like mine anyway?

The only thing that put me off that was two things; 1. they have welded the diff to the cradle instead of creating proper mounts. 2. I'd have to mess around with the drive shaft and that easily adds another $600 onto the project to make a custom 1 piece.

I'll give better tyres a shot first. Might see if I can borrow something from friends to try before splashing out.
 
I saw this,,, when I did the price conversion it was too expensive as I would have had to ship to the UK then pay custom charges and taxes etc
glad you are going to make use of it Berty
 
I saw this,,, when I did the price conversion it was too expensive as I would have had to ship to the UK then pay custom charges and taxes etc
glad you are going to make use of it Berty


It ended up getting re-listed three times. The third time it was about a tenth of the original price. I placed a bid, expecting it to turn into a bidding war and I ended up winning with no other bids!
 
you lucky B*****d,, nice one Berty,, he who dares,
this will transform your car now I am sure,, I will be really interested to see how this install goes,, and how you will have the interior looking with the console and gear shift gator
this is the only bit I am worried about as I want it to look like it was always a manual and not a botch job,, have you had any thoughts?
 
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So how hot does a 20B turbo get? Hot enough apparently to disintegrate heat wrap rated to 2100 degrees Fahrenheit!

The Australian Cosmo guys are getting ready for one of the biggest cruises ever and in anticipation of this event I decided to undertake a 150km test run of the car. For a while I had been noticing a rubber burning smell but I always assumed that it was the new manifold's paint being burnt off during the run-in period. What I found was a lot more disturbing...

These two pictures were the best I could get. This first image shows the front exhaust runner in close proximity to the oil return line from the turbo. That exposed metal part of the manifold was not exposed when I left the house that morning... it had been melted away.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/57788633@N05/7830056660/

You can see how close they are together, however I never thought that it would be a problem as the exhaust's heat wrap was meant to keep everything under control. What the picture doesn't show is the other side of the oil return line... almost melted through.


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This second shot, taken from above shows how the heat wrap is disintegrating. It is flaking off to the point where only the wastegate pipe is left intact (luckily I was boosting it much).


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The more I think about it, the more I realize how lucky I was to not have an engine fire. The Aeroquip hose that I used for my oil return is rated to 350 degrees Celsius. Considering that the exhaust manifold had exceeded 1,140 degrees Celcius I am pretty relieved that the car is still okay.

The moral of the story is to always take the time to slowly test any new modifications. I'm so glad I picked this up before it got a lot worse. Second reminder is to always carry a fire extinguisher (or two) and make sure you know how to use it. I carry one, but I'm going to get a second one just in case.

So with four days until the cruise I need to remove all of my turbo set-up, replace the oil drain, wait for the new DEI Titanium heat wrap to arrive, fix and re-install. It's going to be a tight deadline but with a bit of good luck I'll make it.
 
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you were lucky Berty,, well done for spotting it in time,, could you re-route the oil return away from the manifold and what make of manifold have you got for the single turbo set up?

good luck with the repairs and I hope you get it sorted in time for the cruise
 
...The moral of the story is to always take the time to slowly test any new modifications. I'm so glad I picked this up before it got a lot worse. Second reminder is to always carry a fire extinguisher (or two) and make sure you know how to use it. I carry one, but I'm going to get a second one just in case.

HEAT!!! An enemy we all face, especially in the pursuit of more power...Great input, Berty!

A reminder to all of us to take our time and test thoroughly...Especially if we want as much of a trouble-free experience as possible (I KNOW I DO)...The fire extinguisher is an excellent point and something I had only associated with "OLD" cars until now...Let's remind ourselves, the Eunos Cosmo has been around for over 20 years! Whether your Cosmo is all stock or heavily modified, we can't ignore the risk of fire consider the tremendous amount of heat generated by Turbos and the 20B.
 
Fire Extinguishers fit neatly in the old CD stacker compartment!

I had a similar problem with a sometimes leaking transmission gasket spraying a mist of fluid directly onto the exhaust and Cat! See the videos from the Wollombi run! Spectacular cloud of white smoke!

Better it did it to you now rather than halfway to Walcha! BTW - imagine how hot that oil running out of the Turbo is?

Kramer
 
So, the manifold has been removed in order to replace the old heat wrap with the new stuff. Turns out that the collector has cracked at one of the welds. What is interesting is that the part of the manifold still had its heat wrap in tact. It must have been substantially hotter as a result. Going to drop the manifold into the fabricators tomorrow before work so hopefully I can re-install it all tomorrow night with less than 12 hours to go before I need to depart for the cruise. (hide)
 
My first day back in the country after working OS for the last couple of weeks and I decided to upgrade the fuel pumps in my car. I needed something to keep me occupied for the day so I could battle the jet lag. :'(

Dual Aeromotive Stealth 340 pumps

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Custom Y piece with dash 6 fittings. (Put together whilst enjoying some cider)

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Time to see what lurks within...

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It was actually very easy to remove. I wish that I had known about the inbuilt fuel drain before though.

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Test fitting the new pumps to make sure that I have them sitting low enough. I had to trim a lot of the factory piping to get the new lines to fit.

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The final product. Before people start messaging me about the use of hose clamps, I did actually build a proper bracket which screwed onto the factory unit. The issue is that the swirl pot in the tank kept fouling on the bracket. As I was in a bit of a rush, I had to improvise hence the hose clamps

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So sick of the smell of fuel...
 
Nothing wrong with the hose clamps, thats exactly what i did with my bosh intank. except i should have used some rubber insulation to make it abit quieter.
What are thos two fittings ontop of the tank either side of the pump cradle?
 
Nothing wrong with the hose clamps, thats exactly what i did with my bosh intank. except i should have used some rubber insulation to make it abit quieter.
What are thos two fittings ontop of the tank either side of the pump cradle?

Good to hear. After doing it with the clamps I was angry that I had put so much time into making a bracket.

The two fittings are the breathers which (i think) are routed to the black charcoal canister on the passenger side of the engine bay.
 
For those of you that are interested, this is what happened a few weeks ago when I melted my oil return line after my heat wrapping disintegrated.

This is what my oil return line looked like after I removed it for inspection...


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The end which is closest to the fitting is still intact. The pipe still has its integrity and it is just the outside which is melted. Lower down the pipe, you can see the actual breach point. This is completely melted through and extremely brittle.

I "fixed" the issue by changing a few things.

1. I cut the fitting on the turbo so I could angle the return pipe away from the manifold. Previously, the length of the fitting meant that the oil return line could not be angled away.

2. I heat wrapped the oil return line with the same material used to do the manifold.

3. I am treating this component as a regular consumable part with a life span of around 6 months. All i need to do in the service is change the pipe which costs about $15 for the length that I need.


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This was the next issue that I found during the service. The waste gate line had also melted! Although the picture is blury, you can see how the black line has broken away from the fitting. I noticed that there was another thread on here about zip-tieing the vac lines in place (I think that it was the thread about Viton hoses). The line on my car failed due to the clamp, not the fitting. It seems like the uneven pressure applied to the silicon hose by the clamp is what caused the failure - not the heat.


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Here is my first attempt at fixing it. Note that I have since removed the hose clamps as the push on fitting does a really great job of holding the hoses on. I have used some 1/8 NPT to -4AN fittings so I can use some -4AN 90 degree bends. This way, I can guide the silicon hoses up and away from the hottest sections of the exhaust to prevent any further failure.


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This is the exhaust manifold and dump after being sanded and then have a few coats of VHT flameproof. There are some people on the net that say that having paint under the exhaust wrap is bad idea. I can say that from my experience, this is simply not true. My manifold was painted prior to this and my dump was not. Once I removed all of the old heat wrap the dump had a lot of surface rust whilst the manifold still had all of its paint and was rust free! From my experience I will now always paint my mild steel exhaust materials even if I am going to heat wrap them.


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I bought the extreme heat wrap from Jegs which is rated to 3000 degrees Fahrenheit. This is the highest rated wrap that you can buy. I also opted for a much larger overlap than standard to prevent the issues that I had with the previous exhaust wrap. I ended up using three roles to do everything here and had just enough.


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I gave the car a bit of wash also. :)
 
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Great work Berty,, the car is looking sharp also,, how is it running after all the woes caused by the heat wrap failing?

Frank
 
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