2.0t03speed
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- 08.5 CWP Speed 3
will be tearing down the Protege and ... Start up on my new speed6
another one gone lol. hope you enjoy the 6
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What have you done to your MSP today?
- Thread starter baconbitz
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another one gone lol. hope you enjoy the 6
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
bump for selling a custom built exhaust manifold
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123818387-ThePope-Exhaust-manifold
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123818387-ThePope-Exhaust-manifold
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
Got everything taken care of concerning the engine performance... It's running too well right now... That's impossible for this car... That means tomorrow my LSD is going to grenade itself or something...
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
Today I broke my 2nd passenger side cv axel in under a year... napa cv axels cant handle the power of my MSP..
2.0t03speed
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- 08.5 CWP Speed 3
awesome now just stop driving it before it blows up.Got everything taken care of concerning the engine performance... It's running too well right now... That's impossible for this car... That means tomorrow my LSD is going to grenade itself or something...
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
Use Empi axles. They actually make the MSP specific axle.Today I broke my 2nd passenger side cv axel in under a year... napa cv axels cant handle the power of my MSP..
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
Use Empi axles. They actually make the MSP specific axle.
What part store sells those?
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
What part store sells those?
Carquest and Federated/Fisher Auto Parts that I know of, and if you know anyone with a shop and they use WorldPac, you could order it through them.
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- 03.5 YLW MSP
Carquest and Federated/Fisher Auto Parts that I know of, and if you know anyone with a shop and they use WorldPac, you could order it through them.
ok so advanced auto, napa, and autozone wouldnt carry them i take it... crap because i cant wait for the mail.
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
awesome now just stop driving it before it blows up.
:| lol
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
ok so advanced auto, napa, and autozone wouldnt carry them i take it... crap because i cant wait for the mail.
80-3783 is the Empi part number. If you know someone with a shop, they do daily deliveries from WorldPac.
2.0t03speed
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- 08.5 CWP Speed 3
:| lol
thats what my plan is lol. im going to get my msp running again then snag a new j&s and a ftc turn my 2871 up to 12psi and see what it puts down lol. Then it will be a garage queen. That way i can brag about how reliable my msp is with a 2871 hahahahahaha
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- 2003 Mazdaspeed Protege 1660, 2004 Winning Blue RX8, 2005 Mazda6
thats what my plan is lol. im going to get my msp running again then snag a new j&s and a ftc turn my 2871 up to 12psi and see what it puts down lol. Then it will be a garage queen. That way i can brag about how reliable my msp is with a 2871 hahahahahaha
I should have bought a J&S when I had the chance, but that was when I still had it in mind that I was going to keep it stock...
2.0t03speed
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I should have bought a J&S when I had the chance, but that was when I still had it in mind that I was going to keep it stock...
you can still get them brand new for 550....
Spiced MSP
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- 2016 Peterbilt 579
isn't there a j&s still for sale on here. Guy only wanted $350 for it
found the thread: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...SafeGuard-Protege-350-OBO&highlight=safeguard
found the thread: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/show...SafeGuard-Protege-350-OBO&highlight=safeguard
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2.0t03speed
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isn't there a j&s still for sale on here. Guy only wanted $350 for it
yea but its super old its one of the very 1st units with a 1 wire knock sensor. It's still good don't get me wrong but if i get a new one i would like one with the updated algorithms and the better knock sensor.
Spiced MSP
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- 2016 Peterbilt 579
oh ok, makes sense
2.0t03speed
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j&s is a knock monitor with a very sensitive microphone. it picks up detonation that is in audible. When it detects it the j&s immediately retards timing. here's a email from john @ j&s from a few years ago.What's the purpose for having the j&s?
Ryan:
Yes, the RPM retard adds to the boost retard.
No problem if you don't need it. The standard Interceptor should be good.
A 300zxshop in LA tested it a couple weeks ago. They posted three short videos on you tube.
Runs one and two are at 18psi and 18 timing. They knew that was an aggressive tune, but they had never used headphones, so they didn't know there was inaudible knock with that tune.
Run three they lowered boost to 16.5 psi, and the unit retarded less, as expected.
Another run (not shown), they retarded timing three degrees in the ECU, which eliminated knock retard.
Here's the email from them:
Hi John
Got the harness in and finished up the rest of the install.
I figured out how the boost settings work as I was having retard with any boost pressures. I made repeated pulls and tweaking with the Safeguard, boost, and timing (ECU tuning). I also hooked up my noise canceling head phones while I did the runs. In the following runs (video), I have the sensitivity set to the middle. On Part 3 of the video all I did different than the Part 1 & 2 is lower the boost pressure by 1 to 1.5 psi. As you can see there is a difference! Wow, it works! My question is should I be hearing anything coming from the headphones? I can't hear much, on one pull I could hear something faint (volume is maxed). I also did lower timing values\boost to see if any knock was present. I lowered timing 3 degrees from where it was set in the video and the lights did not come on at all. Inaudible knock! I am very impressed. I can see how someone who doesn't know much about tuning or engines may have no idea on how to properly setup the unit where it can retard too much or little for that matter. Let me know what you think about the head phone (noise). I can safely say that sensitivity is probably in a good setting where retarding timing\boost slightly did in fact register no lights. When timing was increased back up a tad it picked up some knock again, even though I couldn't hear anything from the engine with or without the headphones. On the road testing it would actually change, most of the time no knock was present and on other runs it would pick up a minimal amount of knock. I would love to see the knock gauge incorporate the cylinder LEDs. That way I can see them at the same time. However that's not a big deal, just icing on the cake. BTW, I had max retard to 10 degrees.
Excellent job, I look forward to selling these and sharing the data with my partner Greg. If all works out I'd like to be your sole distributor in the Z market. When I get back from my vacation next week, I will make press on our site and forums. What I would like to do next is throw in some 100 octane and see what happens on the same settings.
http://www.youtube.com/user/specialtyz32?feature=mhum#p/a/u/2/NpoMhUUCDAA
http://www.youtube.com/user/specialtyz32?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/BUSxkBuuU_0
http://www.youtube.com/user/specialtyz32?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/gfIc9k5NFlU
Seb
John
2.0t03speed
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did anyone else just get a spam pm from twm performance.........
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