I think my turbos gone:(

[Prison]

Okay so i noticed some more white smoke today. I got my turbo replaced last year due to the whole seal issue that was going on with the white smoke. Now the car started to smoke again. Idk if my turbo is blown again, but what makes it do this..like what the hell blows the seals like this!!! let me know so i can stop, cuz im getting annoyed with it in the shop. I dont even beat it up..all the time lol


If anyone can tell me why or how the seals or turbo is blowing that would be great. Thanks

 

[Super Shredder]

Okay so i noticed some more white smoke today. I got my turbo replaced last year due to the whole seal issue that was going on with the white smoke. Now the car started to smoke again. Idk if my turbo is blown again, but what makes it do this..like what the hell blows the seals like this!!! let me know so i can stop, cuz im getting annoyed with it in the shop. I dont even beat it up..all the time lol


If anyone can tell me why or how the seals or turbo is blowing that would be great. Thanks

did you switch to synthetic oil? are your oil changes 29-39$ or $55-75?

 

[Prison]

No same oil as ive always used, i let the dealerships do my oil jobs. I wonder what else it could be..

 

[Atreyu3388]

It's not that your seals are blown, the K04 is a German/European turbo. In Europe, since they produce far more turbocharged vehicles than we see here, they use a thicker oil as industry standard. Thus, that's why the switch to 5w40 works such wonders on our cars. Your turbo isn't even damaged in the slightest bit. If you don't know already, learn how to change the oil on these cars and switch to 5w40. I GUARANTEE the smoke will leave within a hundred miles or so. (It did on mine)

AND the answer is NO, the 5w40 doesn't "mask" a blown turbo, it simply remedies a problem that these cars come factory with in the United States....too thin of oil.

 

[tunersteve]

The cost or use of synthetic oil is irrelevant to the cause of the smoking. 5w-40 isn't a remedy, but more of a band-aid. It works in some instances, but not all.

If you look, there's a sticky thread regarding the smoking turbos. Basically, there are 3 revisions, and you might have gotten the B revision (currently using C rev.) and it may have failed. Your best bet is to take it somewhere, bring along a video camera, and do the test.

-Cold engine, 5-10 mile drive, park and let idle for 15-20 minutes. The minute it starts smoking, take video.

Take it to the dealer and hopefully they'll reproduce the same results. Give them the video as added incentive to get it fixed.

 

[Prison]

-Cold engine, 5-10 mile drive, park and let idle for 15-20 minutes. The minute it starts smoking, take video.

Take it to the dealer and hopefully they'll reproduce the same results. Give them the video as added incentive to get it fixed.

KK i will try that. Well idk if the oil is the thing because Ive had the card for 3 years and it does it once in awhile, not everyday...i think the seals are going bad again

 

[SGT-MS6]

The cost or use of synthetic oil is irrelevant to the cause of the smoking. 5w-40 isn't a remedy, but more of a band-aid. It works in some instances, but not all.

If you look, there's a sticky thread regarding the smoking turbos. Basically, there are 3 revisions, and you might have gotten the B revision (currently using C rev.) and it may have failed. Your best bet is to take it somewhere, bring along a video camera, and do the test.

-Cold engine, 5-10 mile drive, park and let idle for 15-20 minutes. The minute it starts smoking, take video.

Take it to the dealer and hopefully they'll reproduce the same results. Give them the video as added incentive to get it fixed.

TS-

The turbo seals going is something I've been concerned about for a time now. Is there a quick way to tell what revision of turbo I have on my MS6?

 

[tunersteve]

TS-

The turbo seals going is something I've been concerned about for a time now. Is there a quick way to tell what revision of turbo I have on my MS6?

If you can take the inlet off, you may be able to read the number plate nearby. Otherwise you're gonna have to rely on the dealership to tell you which revision you get if they replace it, which would most likely be a rev. C one.

 

[Prison]

If you can take the inlet off, you may be able to read the number plate nearby. Otherwise you're gonna have to rely on the dealership to tell you which revision you get if they replace it, which would most likely be a rev. C one.

Whats the difference between them?

 

[tunersteve]

According to my sources, the A and B turbos didn't differ too much, but the C models have an upgraded seal design. Supposed to be beefier and able to withstand a reduction in back pressure on the outlet side, a la turboback exhaust or something similar.

 

[leakslikasieve]

my car is in the shop for the revision c turbo replacement. turbo is on national back order. and i was adv'd by the head tech the 5w40 is the new oil requirement for the vehicle as per mona

 

[tunersteve]

Can you provide some documentation on this? If so, please scan it and post it online for future reference.

 

[Prison]

How can the seals be blown?

 

[tunersteve]

How can the seals be blown?

On earlier model turbos (Rev. A and B), the seals were an inherently 'bad' design. They were succeptible to oil seeping past the seals with reduced back pressure or prolonged idle.

It's most likely not something you did, but inferior components in the turbo itself.

 

[bova80]

the oil pressure that feeds the turbo is also possibly to high and is forcing oil past the seals. a member on another forum has created a restrictor that will reduce the pressure slightly and has proven it has eliminated his smoking turbo.

 

[Prison]

Cough COugh...well if someone had A or B turbo and wanted to blow the seals to get the c turbo, what is a way that one could do so? lol

 

[jonscapri]

I agree the first few versions of the turbo are junk. you can usually find out what is the current version from the local dealership. Last I heard though is that there are 7 total versions. All the same part number but with a letter addition. I know when I did mine it was version F.

 

[tunersteve]

I agree the first few versions of the turbo are junk. you can usually find out what is the current version from the local dealership. Last I heard though is that there are 7 total versions. All the same part number but with a letter addition. I know when I did mine it was version F.

I'd like to see some evidence that this is true. Right now I've heard nothing of the sort.

 

[Prison]

I have the first version again..So if I can push the seals to blow then I can replace it to a new one. I doubt I can go straight in there and say hey give me the best verson

 

[tunersteve]

By default if the dealer is replacing it, they'll put in the current revision. I had mine replaced in early April and got the Rev. C turbo.