Msp Vs. ???

[special--k]

I want to know what i need to do to my MSP in order to match up with a MS3 or GTI.

I got smoked yesterday on the highway by a stock looking GTI, so again, what would it take to match up with him. Or even beat him.

Edit:

What about a Saturn Red Line?

 

[2.0t03speed]

are you stock?

 

[Velocifero]

I want to know what i need to do to my MSP in order to match up with a MS3 or GTI.

I got smoked yesterday on the highway by a stock looking GTI, so again, what would it take to match up with him. Or even beat him.

If you got smoked by a stock "looking" GTI then your not driving well or he is in fact chipped and putting down a lot more power than you think. It is easy for them to get a ecu flash and make mucho power in stock trim. Are you sure it wasn't an R32?

 

[baconbitz]

Before the afc I ran a chipped mkv GTI from about a 30 roll, stayed dead even with him the entire time. We both agreed I would have had him had we gone from 40. Mods (power ones at least): Corksport Exhaust, SRI, PG Intake Mani, hardpipes and bov don't really count.

After the afc I'm pretty sure I would pull a car or two pretty easy, haven't run anyone since then though and that was about 2 years ago.

The MS3 will destroy you, don't even try. You might have a chance with exhaust, intake mani, fmic, afc, and 10psi but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[mx-p5]

Agreed with above. If you got smoked, either you suck at driving, or he has WAY more under the hood than he lets on by the outisde.

Sleeper FTW!!!


I just got smoked by a Pruis and Versa in my Pro5. Anything i can do?

 

[magnumP5]

MKV GTis run just about 200 whp with just an intake and you'll need upwards or 225-230 whp to match a stock MS3. Believe it or not Proteges have a decent weight advantage over most newer cars.

 

[Ricktalife]

I just got smoked by a Pruis and Versa in my Pro5. Anything i can do?

LOL!!!!11

 

[baconbitz]

I just got smoked by a Pruis and Versa in my Pro5. Anything i can do?

Race hondas!


Magnum- the weight definitely shines through sometimes.

 

[Knox Joe]

you'll need upwards or 225-230 whp to match a stock MS3. Believe it or not Proteges have a decent weight advantage over most newer cars.

That's weird. I doubt I am pushing that much power (but who knows), and my MSP is faster than my Speed6. If a Speed6 runs a quicker 1/4 mile time than an MS3, then my MSP should be faster than an MS3.

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

I would say in my opinion done well is...
FMIC, Intake, TBE, Tuned, and 12-15 psi = walking them easily.

 

[special--k]

at the time i was 100% stock.

Isnt the GTI like 2.5T and pushing more boost then a MSP... not to mention smaller. So it makes sence that he beat me. Also, it was not from stopped, it was from around 35 Km/h

 

[special--k]

Also, i guess i did exagurate a little. I did not get smoked, but he did pull away in the long run

 

[baconbitz]

at the time i was 100% stock.

Isnt the GTI like 2.5T and pushing more boost then a MSP... not to mention smaller. So it makes sence that he beat me. Also, it was not from stopped, it was from around 35 Km/h

The mkv's are pretty heavy iirc, and yes they run higher boost levels but they have pretty small turbos.

 

[43975]

That's weird. I doubt I am pushing that much power (but who knows), and my MSP is faster than my Speed6. If a Speed6 runs a quicker 1/4 mile time than an MS3, then my MSP should be faster than an MS3.

The MS6 does better then a MS3, Maybe the AWD helps it grip better, cause you would think the lighter MS3 should walk the MS6 since the motors the same. I could see the MSP taking the MS6 though once agian do to the weight issues, that big clunky AWD can be a hinderance

 

[MAZDA_SPEED]

Before the afc I ran a chipped mkv GTI from about a 30 roll, stayed dead even with him the entire time. We both agreed I would have had him had we gone from 40. Mods (power ones at least): Corksport Exhaust, SRI, PG Intake Mani, hardpipes and bov don't really count.

After the afc I'm pretty sure I would pull a car or two pretty easy, haven't run anyone since then though and that was about 2 years ago.

The MS3 will destroy you, don't even try. You might have a chance with exhaust, intake mani, fmic, afc, and 10psi but I wouldn't bet on it.

right!!!!!!! at what boost? maybe the driver of the GTI was a dumbass...b/c even with those mod you arent breaking 200hp

STOCK: 200hp GTI>170hp MSP
w/Chipped: GTI 256hp and 303 TQ> msp 180 -/+
not a chance my friend..
http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html

 

[baconbitz]

right!!!!!!! at what boost? maybe the driver of the GTI was a dumbass...b/c even with those mod you arent breaking 200hp

STOCK: 200hp GTI>170hp MSP
w/Chipped: GTI 256hp and 303 TQ> msp 180 -/+
not a chance my friend..
http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html

Call me out all you want but I stayed even with him. I had 3 cars of witnesses behind me as well. I don't know what boost he was running but he said it was chipped. Other than that he had coils and a set of chrome A8 wheels.

 

[Knox Joe]

I walked an Evo from a roll, so anything is possible with the mighty MSP!

 

[sandspeed]

mbc set to 10psi, split second afc and get rid of the stock exhaust or at least put a cutout after the dp

 

[speed3ster]

My MSP would smoke that GTI!

 

[jamesk]

who cares how much boost the gti does stock, its a ko2 turbo.