Turbo Seal Issue

[forrestang]

My car used to smoke like it was a trick car in a james bond movie with the stock turbo.

After i replaced that, I don't get smoke at any time, no matter what my car is doing.

 

[AWDRACER6]

surging is caused by a couple things...mostly you need a reflash for the computer...the other is the tmic heat soaking and pre-detonating your gas. (IE: heating the gas up to much, to get the right a/f ratio mixture.) Race gas, or a more effecient intercooler is the fix.

You think that wouold really work???????

 

[firedawgs]

So my car is sitting at the dealer awaiting a new turbo. I have a rental car right now, a minivan .

I have had all the recall (reflashes) done, and the white smoke really appearing after the last reflash. I also have a catback exhaust with a test pipe.

The dealer said that in the last regional meeting, they mentioned that this is a upcoming problem with the speed 6, and is being addressed. I just hope the new turbo will have a stronger seal.

 

[MS6mike]

get an ATP turbo!

 

[BoostedSpd6]

get an ATP turbo!

yeah the stock ones suck.. its amazing im not smoking on the setup i have..not YET anyways...

 

[chriscecc914]

You are not the only one. I also wish I would have went with Subaru. I'm having surging/jerking/vibration issues while accelerating, not always, but most of the time. Acceleration is just not as smooth as it should be. It feels like something's wrong with powertrain. I went to 2 dealerships and they said everything was fine. It just bothers me and right now I think it is my first and last Mazda

i feel your pain.

 

[Matt'sSpeed6]

i feel your pain.

I second that.

M

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[Matt'sSpeed6]

mine does it. 5K on the clock, it's been at the dealer waiting for a new turbo for nearly 2 weeks. I have mazdaspeed CAI on and that's it. it did it before the CAI. anyway, the fix is a new turbo under warranty.

I am curious - did you have any engine sounds that seemed out of the ordinary? I have been back and forth with Mazda about my problems (and what I think is the turbo). Basically it sounds as if there is a rattling sound coming from the passengers side of the car - most noticable with the hood down.

Then just the other day as my car is idling in the driveway, my wife stabs the throttle - and a plume of smoke appears. She hits the gas again, and again - big plume of smoke.

So here I go - another problem for this car....

M

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[3+5]

Firedawg & Matt - what year & vin are your cars? Those with problems should really mention their year & prod #, so we can start to track this. I have an '07, prod #8052, I've only had smoke one time, at about 9,000 miles, really wailing on it from a stoplight across 2 lanes to an interstate on-ramp. Never at idle, everything stock. 14,000 miles now.

 

[8cd03gro]

Where exactly is the turbo mounted, does anyone have a picture? I don't know much about this engine, buut i am starting to learn because i am interested in buying an ms6. Is the turbo mounted between the firewall and the motor? What are the gaskets made of? Because the k04 is starting to get close to its max efficiency, if it is mounted in an area that does not let heat desipate well, the gaskets may be expanding and contracting very quickly when you run your car hard, then shut it off. A turbo timer helps cool oil and get rid of some excess oil because oil is not a great heat conductor anyway, and your turbo will cool alot between wot heat levels and a few minutes of idling, but depending on the gasket material, the gaskets may take longer to cool and when you are running it at extremely high temps (a turbo near its peak efficiency, and in a confined area in the engine bay) those gaskets are gonna cool real quick after alot of heat and eventually either damage themselves, or not fit properly. aftermarket gaskets may help or mazda will probably (sounds like they already have) produce new gaskets that fit the application better.

 

[TheFordGuy]

Dealer just replaced our turbo. Had massive smoking. Car is a 2007 MS6 with 15k miles.

 

[wannabe]

Where exactly is the turbo mounted, does anyone have a picture? I don't know much about this engine, buut i am starting to learn because i am interested in buying an ms6. Is the turbo mounted between the firewall and the motor?

exactly

What are the gaskets made of? Because the k04 is starting to get close to its max efficiency, if it is mounted in an area that does not let heat desipate well, the gaskets may be expanding and contracting very quickly when you run your car hard, then shut it off. A turbo timer helps cool oil and get rid of some excess oil because oil is not a great heat conductor anyway, and your turbo will cool alot between wot heat levels and a few minutes of idling, but depending on the gasket material, the gaskets may take longer to cool and when you are running it at extremely high temps (a turbo near its peak efficiency, and in a confined area in the engine bay) those gaskets are gonna cool real quick after alot of heat and eventually either damage themselves, or not fit properly. aftermarket gaskets may help or mazda will probably (sounds like they already have) produce new gaskets that fit the application better.

the turbo has a oil/water cooling system and therefore a turbo timer is not a requirement. plus with your argument for heat being the cause, a turbo timer wouldn't really help because the turbo is hot while the engine is running, so letting it cool a little after the fact is irrelevant. a turbo timer is just to cool it so that oil doesn't boil when its not running.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123668566

 

[bova80]

Dealer just replaced our turbo. Had massive smoking. Car is a 2007 MS6 with 15k miles.

i think you are the first 2007 that had this done, when was your build date

 

[Powerslave]

exactly


the turbo has a oil/water cooling system and therefore a turbo timer is not a requirement. plus with your argument for heat being the cause, a turbo timer wouldn't really help because the turbo is hot while the engine is running, so letting it cool a little after the fact is irrelevant. a turbo timer is just to cool it so that oil doesn't boil when its not running.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123668566

then why does it say in the manuel that you should let the the car idle after a long highway drive or going up a hill cuase the turbo spinning at 150,000 rpm reaches extremely high tepms, and needs to be cooled down instead of shutting off its oil/water supply imediatly. I always let it sit for a little while before shutting it down

 

[VRMS6]

So is this a 06 issue for the most part??

 

[Dr. D]

didn't smoke until i put the catback on a little while ago

 

[Killer]

didn't smoke until i put the catback on a little while ago

Personally..I think the added flow of no cat is not helping the attrition rate of the seal. Just a guess.

 

[Dr. D]

i have a cat

 

[MS6mike]

DR.D your car is sick!

 

[Killer]

i have a cat

Is the kitty nice?(lol2)