RP and billowing smoke

shucky

Member
:
Mazdaspeed 3
So .. under what conditions will the MS3 start billowing the white'ish smoke from the exhaust at idle that I read about.

Will it do it with RP only and stock CBE?
Will it do it with aftermarket CBE & rest stock?
Will it do it with aftermarket DP (no cat), RP, & stock CBE?
Full TBE no cats?

Just looking for info because some of the pics I've seen it looks kinda embarrassing with the billowing white'ish smoke. I'm NOT talking about
the pig rich puffs of smoke either under WOT, but the WHITE'ish smoke which seems to billow from the tip at idle or revving when aftermarket pieces are introduced.

Tks,
Mike
 
search all the CPE TBE threads, i think someone had an issue with a bad seal causing white smoke (maybe on a MS6). I dont think it is directly related to the aftermarket equipment maybe it can be damaged during installation?

Other than that i dont know anything else about it.
 
So .. under what conditions will the MS3 start billowing the white'ish smoke from the exhaust at idle that I read about.

Will it do it with RP only and stock CBE?
Will it do it with aftermarket CBE & rest stock?
Will it do it with aftermarket DP (no cat), RP, & stock CBE?
Full TBE no cats?

Just looking for info because some of the pics I've seen it looks kinda embarrassing with the billowing white'ish smoke. I'm NOT talking about
the pig rich puffs of smoke either under WOT, but the WHITE'ish smoke which seems to billow from the tip at idle or revving when aftermarket pieces are introduced.

Tks,
Mike


Unfortunately there is no particular combination of aftermarket parts that creates the white smoke issue at idle. In fact, we have a record of stock cars that have this smoking issue, so it isn't limited only to modified cars. We don't know exactly why the car starts smoking, but the Mazda Techs that we've spoken to unanimously agree that the turbo seals are to blame in one respect or another. And just to be clear, this is not an issue that is specific to cp-e parts.

What we do know about the issue is that first, some cars are affected and others are not. The other thing we know is that high-flow exhaust components exacerbates the problem. However, not all cars are affected, as I know many turboback equipped cars that don't have any issue at all, and know of several stock cars that are. For instance:


This person took his car to Mazda, doesn't have cp-e products on the car, and they agreed the problem was an OEM issue:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123671820&highlight=smoking

Here is a thread with a SPEED6 whose car is smoking, and it only has a Mazdaspeed CAI installed:

http://tinyurl.com/3cbk6z

Here is another thread where they discuss what the Mazda techs said about the smoking issue. Also, in the third post down someone with our exhaust products installed said the smoking went away after he replaced his turbo:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3217751&postcount=3

Here is another member who has none of our products, but still has the smoking issue with a Magnaflow catback:

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123673987&highlight=smoking


Hopefully this helps to clear things up, but the problem still remains without an official fix to this day. It seems some Mazda dealers are stepping up to the plate and are owning up to the issue, whereas others are not. Probably not the answer you were looking for, but that's the information we have so far.


Jordan
 
Jordan, thank you for the outstanding reply and info.
Rgds,
Mike


My pleasure Mike, I'm glad I could help out! (cool)


yeah, now get us that turbo upgrade so we dont look like our internals are melting !!

(rofl2)

No problem! Give us a chance to work out the fueling issues (ie. the high pressure fuel pump limitation) and then we'll deliver our 550bhp turbo upgrade kit (evil)


Jordan
 

New Threads and Articles

Back