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[1sty]

Personally I don't have a problem with finding what I'm looking for. If i have the time for a search then I have time to search if you know what I mean. If I can't find something then I'll post about it. To me it's not that difficult to find what I'm looking for.

Search these topics:

1. Injen Dyno
2. Which exhuast for MSP
3. MSP 1/4 mile times

You'll see why its a JOKE!

 

[Notorious]

Even if they are. I still fail to see how moving everything into one topic and merging 25 topics of BS is gonna help this problem. The way I see it we just have to stop the constant flaming. It's like I can't even say an opinion without being flamed by 5 different people.

 

[122 Vega]

What eats up our bandwidth and is a big reason I have not contributed money yet, is the tons of bulls*** threads about J.lo, JLH, CZJ and all these other women. Who gives a s*** what beer you had back in June? I am here to learn about my car, an MSP, not a 1995 Protege, and it's not an MP3 with a turbo, so I think that the forum should definately be split up into Generations.

I want to log on, go to the MSP forum, look at the new and exciting things others have done to thier MSPs. I do not want to have to wait until I think of a question, come to the forum, and then have to search for it.

So I post about HSM being an authorized vendor, and I get told that I post in the wrong spot, even though he is marketing a part specifically for the MSP owners. Ion now has three or four threads that should be in the for sale section, yet they are still in the MSP. Who decides what is appropriate, and who decides who that person is?

I like clicking on the MSP forum and seeing Ions threads, because if they are there in the MSP forum, then I know that I am interested in them and that they pertain to me, an MSP owner.

Britt

ps, Razor, the way I see this is like if a Signal Corps Officer didn't like where you parked your tanks, why does he get to come move them?

 

[1sty]

Well let us see now....Hmm....Maybe Im "stuck" in the MSP section because...Now let me know if this stikes you as crazy...
I OWN AN MSP!!!!!!!!!!

DUH! Where do expect me to go The PR5 section?

FI, N02, Car Audio, Performance, Apperance, OFF-******* -TOPIC , FLAME WARS

 

[Notorious]

Heres a scenario that might help people better see my point of view....

I want to find a topic for getting an injen for my MSP. I look in the MSP section because to me thats probably gonna be the first place to look. Ok nada, next I go to the performance section. Ok now I see a topic "Injen CAI" and I go in there. Ok its injen CAI but everyone is talking about a p5, which while is valuable information, it has little bearing on my task at hand. To me it makes more sense to have a MSP section with those different topics broken up into the MSP section. Where I can find stuff that related to the MSP without having to read about 1st and 2nd gen intakes or p5 intakes. That makes more sense to me.

 

[1sty]

What eats up our bandwidth and is a big reason I have not contributed money yet, is the tons of bulls*** threads about J.lo, JLH, CZJ and all these other women. Who gives a s*** what beer you had back in June? I am here to learn about my car, an MSP, not a 1995 Protege, and it's not an MP3 with a turbo, so I think that the forum should definately be split up into Generations.

Those all are appropriatly placed in Off Topic so what the hell is the problem. There not even in the MSP section and if they start there they get moved too.

We already are divided by generation and model, do you look at the home page?

I want to log on, go to the MSP forum, look at the new and exciting things others have done to thier MSPs. I do not want to have to wait until I think of a question, come to the forum, and then have to search for it.

No one is saying you can't do that. Again Specificly MSp information or post seeking MSP knowledge woun't get moved.

So I post about HSM being an authorized vendor, and I get told that I post in the wrong spot, even though he is marketing a part specifically for the MSP owners. Ion now has three or four threads that should be in the for sale section, yet they are still in the MSP. Who decides what is appropriate, and who decides who that person is?

He makes more then MSp parts. Your question was way to broad to be in the MSp section. Ion posts MSp specific product threads in the MSp section. He doesn't generaly say he is anauthorized vendor.

I like clicking on the MSP forum and seeing Ions threads, because if they are there in the MSP forum, then I know that I am interested in them and that they pertain to me, an MSP owner.

Britt

Here you make a good point. Rather then generaly saying nothing shoudl move come up with guidlines you'd like mods to fallow on moving threads. Some should stay many should not. Somebody has to make that decision.
I think Specfic MSP parts, review, suggestion and questions belong in the MSp section so long as that is the intent.

 

[yashooa]

Heres a scenario that might help people better see my point of view....

I want to find a topic for getting an injen for my MSP. I look in the MSP section because to me thats probably gonna be the first place to look. Ok nada, next I go to the performance section. Ok now I see a topic "Injen CAI" and I go in there. Ok its injen CAI but everyone is talking about a p5, which while is valuable information, it has little bearing on my task at hand. To me it makes more sense to have a MSP section with those different topics broken up into the MSP section. Where I can find stuff that related to the MSP without having to read about 1st and 2nd gen intakes or p5 intakes. That makes more sense to me.

Well it makes sense to any one who actually OWNS and MSP.
These individuals that own lesser makes of Proteges seem to have some sort of complex that prevents them from using logic when it comes to anything related to the MSP.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

now, i am off to read through stacks of flamewars, and non-constructive posts, and try to figure out where they go.

BURN THEM!!! BURN THEM ALL!!!


send them to BURNINATION!!!

 

[1sty]

Heres a scenario that might help people better see my point of view....

I want to find a topic for getting an injen for my MSP. I look in the MSP section because to me thats probably gonna be the first place to look. Ok nada, next I go to the performance section. Ok now I see a topic "Injen CAI" and I go in there. Ok its injen CAI but everyone is talking about a p5, which while is valuable information, it has little bearing on my task at hand. To me it makes more sense to have a MSP section with those different topics broken up into the MSP section. Where I can find stuff that related to the MSP without having to read about 1st and 2nd gen intakes or p5 intakes. That makes more sense to me.

Thats why you type in "MSP injen intake". By the that brings up 48 threads of pure useless s*** if you limit the search to the MSP section.

 

[1sty]

BURN THEM!!! BURN THEM ALL!!!

You guys just complained when we did?

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

i didn't complain.

 

[1sty]

Well it makes sense to any one who actually OWNS and MSP.
These individuals that own lesser makes of Proteges seem to have some sort of complex that prevents them from using logic when it comes to anything related to the MSP.

Same irrelevent bulls*** clogging up the MSP section.

The idea that any other protege is a lessor car. Blazingly funny!

 

[1sty]

i didn't complain.

I realize, you were just voicing your opinion, which is alwasy welcome. The overall complaint I am refering to is that the threads are being move, deleted and pruned. Its because they all go the way of the flame war. That is what we are stopping.

 

[Asterchild]

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[122 Vega]

Those all are appropriatly placed in Off Topic so what the hell is the problem. There not even in the MSP section and if they start there they get moved too.

Because, someone earlier in this thread blamed the MSP section for taking up the bandwidth.

We already are divided by generation and model, do you look at the home page?

Yep, sure do, and if you followed this thread you would have seen earlier where it was discussed that the Gens be further broken down with their own subfolders about performance related items.

He makes more then MSp parts. Your question was way to broad to be in the MSp section. Ion posts MSp specific product threads in the MSp section. He doesn't generaly say he is anauthorized vendor.

HSM targeted MSP owners specifically then took their money. I don't know why it was inappropriate to post a warning and a heads up about that. You say MSP specific threads, like the one I was participating in earlier about installing a TT in your MSP?

Here you make a good point. Rather then generaly saying nothing shoudl move come up with guidlines you'd like mods to fallow on moving threads. Some should stay many should not. Somebody has to make that decision.

Thanks you. But if I come up with the guidelines, then I would be requesting to operate under rules that I already adhere to personally, and it has been decided that what I think belongs there doesn't matter, it's what others think belongs there. See below:

the fact remains, regardless of who says what...the board needs to be cleaned up, and WILL BE cleaned up, with no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Britt

ps, this is fun isn't it, a year from now we can make a thread about all the useless "MSP section" threads that have to be combined...

 

[122 Vega]

Don't worray about that man, basicly no mods own MSPs so that can't happen

Isn't Steph a Mod?

This is too hard arguing on the internet. This is pointless, whoever said "Mods run this board like it or not" was right. The consumer has no say in what they want. It is up to an undisclosed number of people to determine what we read, and where. But if that's the best we can get, then I will take it, because I appreciate this forum even if it is going to undergo unecessary change.

No one should take anything I said as personal attacks, I appreciate everyone's opinion equally.

BTW, I smoked a Viper!!

Britt

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

so wait, if i wanted to ask a question to people that have guages ON THEIR MSP where would i post my question (please consider i have done a search which yielded jack squat)?

what about a question about guages in general, such as: "Where do i put the oil temp sensor?" or "how do i route wires from the pillar to the egt sensor?" where do i put those questions. or better yet "what are the best guages?" where do i put that?

 

[yashooa]

Same irrelevent bulls*** clogging up the MSP section.

The idea that any other protege is a lessor car. Blazingly funny!

Well I'm certainly glad the king of all Sparcomatics likes the feel of the fire.

 

[1sty]

Because, someone earlier in this thread blamed the MSP section for taking up the bandwidth.

Someone also said the MSP and offtopic forums could be merged to make organizing alot easier. The MSP section does take up way to much band with that is has no need being taken up.
Offtopic is for random thought not the MSP section.

Yep, sure do, and if you followed this thread you would have seen earlier where it was discussed that the Gens be further broken down with their own subfolders about performance related items.

Each could be divided but you guys want EACH KIND of protege divided up like that whichis incredibly useless. Having the same 5 divided sections for the MSP, MP3, P5, 3rd Gen sedan, 2nd Gen adn 1st gen is redicoulus at best.

HSM targeted MSP owners specifically then took their money. I don't know why it was inappropriate to post a warning and a heads up about that. You say MSP specific threads, like the one I was participating in earlier about installing a TT in your MSP?

One persons opinion is not gosple here. If you have a problem with the decision talk to the person who made it.
A TT install for a 3rd gen protege is not specific to the MSP. Any MSP, MP3, P5 or any 3rd gen sedan is the same install. You will find more useful info in the electronics section then anywhere. The MSP section has barely any usful or sorted info to install a TT. It doesn't belong there.

Thanks you. But if I come up with the guidelines, then I would be requesting to operate under rules that I already adhere to personally, and it has been decided that what I think belongs there doesn't matter, it's what others think belongs there. See below:

You have a voice, Derrick only says things will be cleaned not that the meathod and frequency was a closed subject.

 

[slug420]

this is such horse s***.

im not even gonna bother reading this thread, my thoughts are here
http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28515&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

and if you cant handle this msp section like it is, then it must take ALL your energy and coordination to work the gas/brake while negotiating turns......you poor thing.