MSP Hard piping

[ForceFed]

i would be interested depending on how long it would be before they are ready. i would also want mine unpowder coated.. what would the price differance be unpowder coated?

These pipes should be ready to ship out no later than 14 days from now.I am also not offering this piping without powdercoating as the quantity is how i'm getting the price break on the powdercoating.I would not be able to offer enough of a discount to offset the cost of the powdercoating to make it worth your guy's(proper english,I think not?) while.
Matt

 

[MazdaspeedZOOM]

These pipes should be ready to ship out no later than 14 days from now.

Hey sounds good to me especially if you actually hit that deadline of 2 weeks or less for the pipes I'll take a set. If you haven't already, I think you should start a posted list of everyones name of who wants a set, and maybe even a deposit wouldn't be a bad idea just so you get a gurantee out of people, and the people who really want a set get a gurantee that there is enough available. just my 2 cents...

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

so are you goin to be able to make the flange for the bov on some or atleast mine and a few others, hehe. im down for this so plz keep us posted.

 

[ForceFed]

Well ,on the flanges,we may have an issue?
The actual cost of the flanges was higher than anticipated.The HKS Super sequential flange is substantially higher in cost than I ever thought!It is a precisely made flange for the way that it mounts.I can still get it but it will cost nearly double what I originally thought.The Greddy flange is slightly higher than what i previously thought too but not enough to increase the cost by more than a few dollars.I will try to get exact pricing by tomorrow or wed. hopefully at the latest.

Matt

 

[ForceFed]

Update Info!

OK guy's ,here's the deal.
We have been working on this for a few days and have run into a few clearance issues on fitment with the stock airbox still in place.With the stock airbox in place there is not a lot of room to get the proper bends implemented to clear all of the stock equipment with the positioning of the throttle body and the brake master cylinder.We have looked at a few different options over the last couple of days and have come up with only one way to make this piping fit with the stock airbox.This would be implementing a 90 degree silicone elbow at the throttle body to solve the clearance issue.I really don't want to do this for the cost of the elbow alone is outragous!It would make the kit soo much money that it wouldn't be worth the effort and you guy's with stock airbox's that haven't purchased an Injen Intake would prob not want to get it for the simple fact of cost alone.
Now ,here is what I now propose.I can finish up the piping without making it fit the factory airbox ,but rather fit the car's with the Injen in place.With the Injen intake on the car,this free's up the extra space and clearance that we need to get this done and done quickly.The stock piping is just way too big around the airbox to get any kind of clearance where the Injen gives us much ,much more room to work with where I can straighten out some of the bends for a better,and straighter flowing pipe!I think that this is the route that I am going to go.
Now with all of this in mind,Who that has the Injen would like to get this piping?Keep in mind that if we build it this way IT WILL NOT fit with the stock airbox in place.IT WILL fit with the Injen intake in place.
I have also spoke with a shop about POSSIBBLY polishing this piping out to match the Injen,but I will have to get the first one done before they will quote me a price on doing it.They want to see the pipe before giving a quote.So now we have the possibility of polished or powdercoating?Depending the difference in price between polishing and powdercoating I may go either way depending on what YOU GUY'S want.
Please let me know your input on this as quickly as possibble for I will be heading to the shop to start on the changes at 6pm today.If you can leave me your input by then it would be helpful.

Please let me know what you think!
Matt

 

[boostisgood]

ME ME ME ME ILL TAKE MATT BTW, where are your applications :mad: j/k

 

[Sixmil]

Put me down for a set if its going to be polished like the ingen with black adapters.

-Six

 

[unwound]

is the problem just with the air box or is it the whole factory intake pipe as well?

in other words, i want to do a set-up like what joe(kwiktsi) has. do you think it will work with just a K&N cone filter?

 

[ForceFed]

It will not work with any of the factory turbo to airbox piping or the stock airbox itself.The piping and airbox just take up way too much room and leave very little for any kind of clearance!This is why I say it will now be built around the Injen intake for it gives us much more room to work with.
Matt

 

[unwound]

It will not work with any of the factory turbo to airbox piping or the stock airbox itself.The piping and airbox just take up way too much room and leave very little for any kind of clearance!This is why I say it will now be built around the Injen intake for it gives us much more room to work with.
Matt

that sux, now i gotta get an injen . i am still interested thou

keep us posted on your progress

 

[doublebase]

Very interested. Silver to match injen def. I am not the smartest when it comes to cars. I am slowly learning so what exactly does this do to the car and what kind of hp am I looking at when installed and also is it hard to instal.

PA Tittanium Gray

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

i want one, made for the ingen intake clearance plz and powdercoated. spankyou
let me know plz

 

[Glowmunkey]

I will be interested... but I have to find a good price on an Injen first.

 

[MazdaspeedZOOM]

I spoke to a guy today whose has crazy knowledge about cars and such, especially turbo one's. I talked to him today about fabricating hardpipes for our intercoolers and although mentioning it's advantages pointed out to me that the reason the egineers chose felxible plastic is because of how the pipes are mounted perpendicular to that of the engine motion under rev/acceleration that those pipes have to flex in-order to move with the engine. He said that the biggest problem is going to be that when you mate the metal hard pipes to that of the intercooler, throttle body, and turbo, that when the motor moves under stress the first thing your going to do is crack the plastic mounts on the intercooler because the metal hardpipes are obvioulsy not going to flex and the first thing to give way will be the plastic. Now he mentioned using rubber pipe connectors like that in an intake, and that those may flex enough when the engine moves, but there's no gurantee. I don't know, i'd be interested to see what your cooking up, and what design your planning on useing, but am worried about some of the side of effects of such an application.

 

[t3ase]

I spoke to a guy today whose has crazy knowledge about cars and such, especially turbo one's. I talked to him today about fabricating hardpipes for our intercoolers and although mentioning it's advantages pointed out to me that the reason the egineers chose felxible plastic is because of how the pipes are mounted perpendicular to that of the engine motion under rev/acceleration that those pipes have to flex in-order to move with the engine. He said that the biggest problem is going to be that when you mate the metal hard pipes to that of the intercooler, throttle body, and turbo, that when the motor moves under stress the first thing your going to do is crack the plastic mounts on the intercooler because the metal hardpipes are obvioulsy not going to flex and the first thing to give way will be the plastic. Now he mentioned using rubber pipe connectors like that in an intake, and that those may flex enough when the engine moves, but there's no gurantee. I don't know, i'd be interested to see what your cooking up, and what design your planning on useing, but am worried about some of the side of effects of such an application.

(stupid)

 

[ForceFed]

I spoke to a guy today whose has crazy knowledge about cars and such, especially turbo one's. I talked to him today about fabricating hardpipes for our intercoolers and although mentioning it's advantages pointed out to me that the reason the egineers chose felxible plastic is because of how the pipes are mounted perpendicular to that of the engine motion under rev/acceleration that those pipes have to flex in-order to move with the engine. He said that the biggest problem is going to be that when you mate the metal hard pipes to that of the intercooler, throttle body, and turbo, that when the motor moves under stress the first thing your going to do is crack the plastic mounts on the intercooler because the metal hardpipes are obvioulsy not going to flex and the first thing to give way will be the plastic. Now he mentioned using rubber pipe connectors like that in an intake, and that those may flex enough when the engine moves, but there's no gurantee. I don't know, i'd be interested to see what your cooking up, and what design your planning on useing, but am worried about some of the side of effects of such an application.

You are absolutely correct!This is why I have revised the design to allow for more room by making it work with the Injen intake.We are also going to implement a two piece lower pipe with a section for the flex.Whoever you spoke to obviously knows what he is talking about.
I really like someone(like yourself) that is educated enough to ask the proper questions about things.I have taken into account the fact that our motors do move prob an inch or so either way and that is why a two piece design will be implemented.The factory intercooler mounts themselves allow for about a half inch of movement already.We will be working out where to put the flex section for the best movement of the motor and to allow it to still function correctly and look good while doing it!I will know more when I actually get the silicone in next week.I will be testing this on my car before I will release it to you guys ,so don,t worry if it doesn't flex enough,I will find out on my ride!And if that be the case ,we will revise the flex design untill it is right!
Matt

 

[MazdaspeedZOOM]

(stupid)

I like how you call me stupid and then he agrees with what I just said, thanks buddy.