Yes and no. It will be on the VERY edge of being a daily driver if you want 250 hp. You will need forged rods and the Microtek that Terry is offering this summer. But with that power, it's going to cost upwards of $5000 to $6000. And don't let people tell you the tranny can't handle it. I think that is the limit, but it will be able to handle it. I'd definetely get a LSD with that kind of power though. And not the MSP one, I'd get the Quaife LSD.
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Ah, my mistake, thats why I was trying to establish the specifics. i believe Ch had the turbo itslef crash, could be wrong though I usualy am. I wasn't trying to b\pick on anyones setup just getting the poster idea of the different major problems all us turbo members ave had be it turbo related damage or not.
Was that you stock oil line that went?
Was that you stock oil line that went?
No, it was the return line from the bottom of the turbo. It's was kinda half my fault and half the tire's fault. I probably should have tightened the compression nut tighter, but the huge retread whacking it didn't help it any.
But as for blowing their motor's. So far the only two that we all know of is the guy in Florida with the "Fast Import Car's" kit, and PRO5 with the Spool-Turbo kit. Both were the owners fault. The guy in Florida was running a T3/T4 at 10psi with no intercooler and no timing control. And PRO5 was running like 8 or 9psi with a T3/T4 at full boost in 5th gear with 4 other guys in the car. Talk about load on the motor!
But as for blowing their motor's. So far the only two that we all know of is the guy in Florida with the "Fast Import Car's" kit, and PRO5 with the Spool-Turbo kit. Both were the owners fault. The guy in Florida was running a T3/T4 at 10psi with no intercooler and no timing control. And PRO5 was running like 8 or 9psi with a T3/T4 at full boost in 5th gear with 4 other guys in the car. Talk about load on the motor!
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Thats what i was talking about: timing control. HOW do we solve this? How can I control this? If a knock sensor/timing control is good (like your J&S safeguard unit) enough up to 8-psi, thats a solution. I've read your post of the safeguard and what this unit does is interesting.
How FMiata is handling the ping/knock problem?
FM doesn't have any timing control for the Protege as of yet. I believe they might be working on it though. I'm sure it will be a modified Link unit like Terry's. The thing that I like about the J&S is this. If you don't want crazy horsepower like 250+, the J&S is perfect. It not only retards the timing when it hears pinging, it also actively retards when you hit a certain psi level. So it is half active timing control, and half passive timing control. It doesn't give you the total control over your timing curve like the more expensive Link or stand-alone systems, but for this motor, I don't think that is necessary unless you want to run the turbo at 10psi or more. Also, stand-alone systems won't "save" your motor if you have a malfunction of some kind, the J&S will.
Man this thread is going fast...
On a side note:
And about my EX-WIFE, we are friends, good friends, she did even got a Protege 5 too (YESTERDAY)...and shes very happy with it. Now we can hang around together and browse some car-clubs meets, and have some "wagon-ing" fun.
I hope this statement is refered to the hp on the wheel.
You see? Thats what Im talking about safe-turbo-setup. Taking care of knocking, lean-rich boosts, overboosts, temperature and oil pressure.
On a side note:
I've read about this...TERRIBLE. I feel safe about his ex-g, I live in PR
And about my EX-WIFE, we are friends, good friends, she did even got a Protege 5 too (YESTERDAY)...and shes very happy with it. Now we can hang around together and browse some car-clubs meets, and have some "wagon-ing" fun.
For 300+ HP you would need the gear sets for the world challenge Protege. They are ~800 a set if I am not mistaken and there are 3 sets, so thats ~2400 in tranny upgrades.
All the parts are available for 300+ HP. Forged pistons and rods would need to be custom made, but that isn't a big deal. You would need a stronger head gasket, dunno about that one.
Lets see, ballpark figure...
Turbo kit - $4000
Forged Internals - $1500
WC gear sets - $2400
Engine Management - $1500
LSD - $1200
Clutch - $300
Head Gasket - ???
Fuel system - $500
Having the fastest ******* MP3 on the planet - Priceless
That is $11,400, not including labor. Very rough estimate, but should be close. You would also need gauges and dyno time and alot of little s***.
All the parts are available for 300+ HP. Forged pistons and rods would need to be custom made, but that isn't a big deal. You would need a stronger head gasket, dunno about that one.
Lets see, ballpark figure...
Turbo kit - $4000
Forged Internals - $1500
WC gear sets - $2400
Engine Management - $1500
LSD - $1200
Clutch - $300
Head Gasket - ???
Fuel system - $500
Having the fastest ******* MP3 on the planet - Priceless
That is $11,400, not including labor. Very rough estimate, but should be close. You would also need gauges and dyno time and alot of little s***.
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Actually PRO5 did not have a Spool kit. The only thing he had from Spool was the manifold. Everything else he had was on his own. And yes the FIC car blew due to 14psi with a t3/t4 and no intercooler.igdrasil if you get bens timing unit you will be more than safe as timing is concerned
