Yet another blown engine!

Thats because our car's fuel curves are harder to tune than your average honda or diamond star. It's not as easy as pluggin in an apex fuel controller or getting an after market ecu flash, like a cobb or vishnu. I'm actully wondering why no one has came out with an after market ecu flash. Anyone shed some light???

My buddies wrx has a cobb stage 2 ecu and a mrt turbo back. Thing is sweet!
 
Spool had to go own the shitter right as he was kickin ass with the e-manage.

......I long for the days with my 88 merkur xr4ti. pushin 19lbs of boost. With every svo and rapido part you could think of.....=( r.i.p. baby.
 
I think this is the most I have ranted ever on this board......I'm mostly a troll..............please for give the multi posts
 
I think y'all get what u deserve blowing ur engines up like that just to say , ( ya I boosed it up 14,15-,-,-,-,20) etc etc and then OOPS KaBooom aww man I blew my moter ! Hell learn how to drive the car first , then read & read & read some more. Hell I think it would be better to just do mods to the motor maybe some steel sleeves,bigger pistons,valves etc etc first then you can boost the turbo up. Hell I know damn well there aint any of them other rice burnners out there touch ya
 
Meatstick said:
Maybe you dont read so well what I said was it handled the BOOST WITH NO PROBLEMS I never said that it was an outstanding motor that made 100hp per liter. But I never had a days worth of trouble with the motor and here were talking about a engine that cant handle and extra 5 lbs of boost
Great way to work it through
MEAT
All right there beef jerky, i didnt say you said it was outstanding. I did say and ask if you have ever opened one up to see WHY it can handle it without any issues.
The FSDE CAN handle it if it were tuned properly. The mustang wouldn't be able to without management and if you kept the revs where some people do today either. The 2.0 L is a stroked 1.8. IT DOES NOT LIKE TO REV. The car can put out alot of power once the rods and pistons are upgraded. Trust me i have done it.
The ford 302 was underpowered for emmisions purposes. The rigidity of the internals on that motor are almost double in comparison. If you DONT understand the specifics of HOW a turbo charged engine works and behaves you shouldnt comment on the durabilty of it. WHY does the aftermarket tell and sell the chevy and ford guys aftermarket rods and pistons? For the hell of it. NO because they can only endure so much also. AND THEY ARE N/A
END of rant.
BTW nice to see another member from the jersey area. Welcome.
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lamp3 said:
I'm actully wondering why no one has came out with an after market ecu flash. Anyone shed some light???

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Yeah, its basicly not possible :D
Flyinprotege tried to have it done. They got it back with a note saying "NO WAY!" or something along those lines.

The Captain knows the story.
 
Mazda's fault was to keep the engine as-is and add some boost.
Obviously, this is not a family car or something, this car was aimed to the sports enthusiasts, so, they should expect that their owners are looking for a bit more power, which may be the edge of it.
The neons are not keeping the 2.0L enigne on the SRT4 are they?

well...thats my point.
 
I've been silently snooping for too long now...

I think a lot of people are missing the underlying reason Mazda made the MSP the way they did. Cost. They kept the price of this car very low by using exactly the same engine and transmission as the NA Protege.

This is also why nobody has developed this or that specifically for our car- the cost can't be justified because there are simply not enough potential customers. There are far more WRXs than MSPs, which is why there are a lot more aftermarket parts for those cars.

And to the dude with the picture of his belly- Mazda has a history of excellent engines. I raised the boost on my '89 626 to 13 psi (stock was 8, I believe), put about 10,000 hot-rodding miles on it, and sold it in great mechanical condition with 167,000 miles on the ticker. Many people have gotten 300,000 miles at that boost level and stories of blown engines from overboosting are relatively rare.

mx6.com is a great forum for those interested in the MSP's ancestors.

SOrry for the long post.
 
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1st MP3 in NH said:
Yeah, its basicly not possible :D
Flyinprotege tried to have it done. They got it back with a note saying "NO WAY!" or something along those lines.

The Captain knows the story.

This is the only overwhelming BAD thing about our cars. It takes all the possiblity away of a really well tuned car. I just want an exhaust, larger IC preferably in a stock location, 12PSI like I have and a plug-n-play piggy back or ECU/PCM. But noooo we have an uber ****** ECU!
 
**I was wondering how many engines have blown so far? How many blown engines have we all heard of so far?**
I should have updated everyone sooner on my situation. Here it is though, I blew my engine over the holiday. I have had mine in the shop since the first week I bought it complaining of coolant leaks, hesitation, grinding noises, etc. It was revving high, and so we decided to take it to a better dealership (Browning in Cerritos), since Don Kott (Carson) lost its franchise. (Go figure, the Pre-Delivery inspection was done terribly, they didn't even fill my washer fluid or check that leak in the coolant, or clean the black sticky stuff from my paint) At any rate, the car died on the way to Browning, and had to be towed there. A clutch, throw out bearing, some radiator hoses, and coolant hoses all were replaced, and the flywheel resurfaced. The car went in on a Monday, I got it back Thursday night. Friday night, I drove from California to Las Vegas (about 4 hours). With average highway speeds, the engine blew a hole in the rod. I have never taken my car to the track or even street raced anyone. So there is no way they can say it was customer abuse. They are saying some ground straps were disconnected, and my gauges and oil cap were "modifications" that may have changed settings. BS...Anyone have any input, has anyone been able to overcome these problems?
 
I agree with igdrasil,
I think that if Mazda wants to enter the turbo world, they should have known that people would modify them. It is true that Mazda made the car cost efficient to make money, but should have made an engine that could handle a bit more boost. If I make rediculous modifications such as rasing the boost levels at 15psi, no fuel management, etc. I would pay for my mistakes. Don't get me wrong I love my car but I think Mazda should have prepared for the Fast and the Furious era.
 
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To the poster above ^^, Mazda HAS entered the turbo world before. Don't get it twisted. They've been making stock turbo cars for 15+ years (323 GTX, mx-6/626, rx-7).

hello2000 said:
It is true that Mazda made the car cost efficient to make money, but should have made an engine that could handle a bit more boost.

As paulstrovsky said...Mazda has done this in the past. The 88-92 mx6/626 GT (2.2L Turbo) came stock with hypereutectic pistons, forged rods, and a relatively low (7.8:1) compression ratio. (The non turbo version of that car had none of these items.) The 2.2L Turbo can take 12psi boost bone stock (stock ECU cuts fuel at 12psi) If only they had done the same to the MSP....it is my understanding that the MSP has the stock base model protege internals....I think this is the downfall of the MSP.

You would think that Mazda would have learned from the relative "bulletproofness" of the 2.2L turbo they produced 15 years ago that it had a good idea going. Perhaps it just cost too much. Around the time the 2.2L engine was out, Mazda nearly went bankrupt, some say due to the overengineering of their cars.
 
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the only down fall is that people cant learn how to properly modify a vehicle . these cars can handle plenty of boost when handled right. and if you want to get a standalone flasher setup that turns your pcm into a standalone laptop programable pcm you should get ahold of www.superchipscustom.com they are not superchips it is a diffrent company . If anyone can do a setup for our cars they can . I dont have the money yet but wait till I do.
 
My father in law has a 91 Miata boosting 12 psi with stock internals for over 50k miles. No problems so far.
 

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