Yet another blown engine!

[Panzozo]

Sorry to hear that. But I think you should take your car back to the dealer and tell them to fix the engine since you are still under warrenty. Whether they will do it or not, that's another issue. If you take it to them, at least you will get a 50/50 chance. If you so worry about it and ends up not taking it to them, you pay everything out of your pocket. You do the math.

Just my 2 cents. Good Luck.

 

[unwrittenLaw]

I am not sure how much boost you were running and I don't expect you to discuss it here for abvious reasons, but you must've been running over 10 psi of boost. I talked to FM and Bell enginering and they both said the FS engine and safely take 8 psi of boost using a T3 turbo with proper fuel management. 8 psi on a T3 is probably like 10 psi on our smaller T25 turbo and our cars already have a very rich mixture to avoid detonation.
After this is settle, it would be informative for everyone here the details of your mods and see what possibly went wrong.

I agree....When these types of things happen, everyone should try and learn from others' mistakes. Especially with a lot of MSP owners just turning up the boost and thinking nothing bad is happening to their cars...

 

[duMb KeoLa]

man...i say bite the bullet...its your fault that you blew the engine, quit being a kid and pay for your own mistakes...i did lots of sheit to my car knowing it wouldnt be under warranty..but im dealing with it

dont cheat your way outta this, pay the price for fun, you decided to bo0st more, pay for it

not to sound like a dick but thats honestly what i feel...you do the mods, you pay the price

 

[Meatstick]

man...i say bite the bullet...its your fault that you blew the engine, quit being a kid and pay for your own mistakes...i did lots of sheit to my car knowing it wouldnt be under warranty..but im dealing with it

dont cheat your way outta this, pay the price for fun, you decided to bo0st more, pay for it

not to sound like a dick but thats honestly what i feel...you do the mods, you pay the price

I dont agree with ya on this. I know plenty of guys with Buick GN's and Turbo Talons that have turned up boost and had nothing happen for years. Maybe if they (mazda) built a superior product, this would not be the issue. I mean look at all the Buicks STILL running around after 13 years and still going strong. I say eff them let them fix what they didnt make right in the first place. Just from loking around on here i can see that Mazda gave this car no thought and even less build quality- Argue if ya want this is honestly how I feel
MEAT

 

[duMb KeoLa]

I dont agree with ya on this. I know plenty of guys with Buick GN's and Turbo Talons that have turned up boost and had nothing happen for years. Maybe if they (mazda) built a superior product, this would not be the issue. I mean look at all the Buicks STILL running around after 13 years and still going strong. I say eff them let them fix what they didnt make right in the first place. Just from loking around on here i can see that Mazda gave this car no thought and even less build quality- Argue if ya want this is honestly how I feel
MEAT

sorry meat...still dont prove your point...

if these cars were meant to bo0st more they would come stock with higher bo0st already...those cars that still run now with higher bo0st (talon, buick etc) took a chance to bo0st higher and they came out lucky..mazda never meant for the turbo to bo0st that much so thats why its set at what its set at....he decided to bo0st more and have fun...he should pay the consiquences

i know i will soon blow my stock engine..and i will have to pay the same consiquences he does

 

[duMb KeoLa]

a stock car is meant to be driven how its sold...you do modifications thats your fault... but thats just my belief

 

[Meatstick]

I understand your point, like if he tried to run 15 psi, then sure your gonna have a problem. But to add a few psi and have the motor go on you thats BS. Look at all the other problems that Mazda has not addressed, how do you know there isnt another gremlin luking in there somewhere? maybe there is a casting problem like Chevy had with the engine in the Trailblazer? Who knows. If it was me, Id pitch a b**** and demand that they fix it
just mu opinion
MEAT

 

[duMb KeoLa]

very true...didnt look at it from that angle...but yah, if there was a problem with it like casting or something, then i would take it...but if you bo0sted rediculous numbers to show off with your friend how co0L and fast the car was (which is what i would do...especially if i was testing it with him and he was about to buy it, i would want to show him how fast this thing can bo0gie) then you should just fix it yourself...go with forged internals and a standalone or piggy and you can bo0st however much you want to!

 

[Dr.Sound]

u guys just wait untill Mazda sends you a letter warning about installing boost controllers.

they've decided to do this after a local guy here blew his motor.
his dealership was kind enough to fix his car for free, although they knew that he was over stock boost (he ctually had a FMIC setup, MBC, BOV....and other stuff)


dealers will now investigate the "boost controller issue" in much more detail.
every cut vacuum line will be inspected upclose......

heard this from one of the guys who works for mazda.
every MSP owner will get the letter.

 

[jaymode]

u guys just wait untill Mazda sends you a letter warning about installing boost controllers.

they've decided to do this after a local guy here blew his motor.
his dealership was kind enough to fix his car for free, although they knew that he was over stock boost (he ctually had a FMIC setup, MBC, BOV....and other stuff)


dealers will now investigate the "boost controller issue" in much more detail.
every cut vacuum line will be inspected upclose......

heard this from one of the guys who works for mazda.
every MSP owner will get the letter.

I am going to burn that letter.

 

[Dexter]

oh no a letter from the Mazda Police!

i can't wait.

 

[Dr.Sound]

lol
guess too many engines been blowing up cause of incresed boost........now where can i find an uncut wastegate actuator line

 

[Meatstick]

So basically Mazda is saying that there motor cannot handle any addtional HP hmmmm sounds like they made a wonderful engine. What blows my mind is that I had a bone stock 302 rated at 225 hp, popped on a Vortech S trim at 9 lbs and had NO problems for 4 years of real abuse. I guess the Japanese engines really are not that superior.
MEAT

 

[Dexter]

yes, sweeping generalizations are the way to go!

 

[EVILSRT]

^lol

 

[ForceFed]

Just to let you guy's know,
You DO NOT have to cut a single line to instal a MBC.PERIOD!
But I wouldn't know as I have never modded a car in my life.
Matt

 

[unwrittenLaw]

You dont have to cut the lines, but some of those vacum lines are pretty hard and some may have to cut a bit to get the mbc in...but if Mazda tries to prove anything from a cut vacum line, that is BS. What if thats where you were tapping in for your boost gauge or something....

 

[t3ase]

Or what if you have installed a full HoseTechniques show kit and replaced all of them with orange ones?

 

[Mr. Win]

they cannot prove you had anything instlled by having a mod list. i could be billy from down the street typing o my friends computer about his car. Thats is why chatrooms are great because people can be anything they desire. there is no way to prove you typed it at all, so matty you were robbed and honestly mazda neds to work on this s*** because if you cant even mod an engine slightly without a blow or clunk or a bucket of issues then they need to re think thier apporach on trying to enter the import market because honestly i will NEVER buy a turbod car mazda after all ive read from you speed owners, i want to know that every kink is worked out for sure before i lay the cash down. my next car wil be a WRX.

on a side note my friend has a gst eclispe and has been runnig 20 psi for almost 2 years now with hardly any mods just beter breathing and springs. you know what happened to his car? it didnt blow a load on the road he wore the bearings in the turbo down.

 

[speedfrk]

"So basically Mazda is saying that there motor cannot handle any addtional HP hmmmm sounds like they made a wonderful engine. What blows my mind is that I had a bone stock 302 rated at 225 hp, popped on a Vortech S trim at 9 lbs and had NO problems for 4 years of real abuse. I guess the Japanese engines really are not that superior.
MEAT"

Maybe if people did modifications correctly and wisely they wouldnt have blown motors and mazda to blame. If you are raiseing boost and dont take some timing out and change the injectors and dyno tune and test the setup . Then you jackasses shouldnt be working on cars. these cars need bigger injectors and tuning to run more boost .Never mind dam kids these days make me laugh.