XXR vs Rota

Smiley2010

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Mazda 3, GS W/Comfort Package 2010
Hi Guys,

I've been shopping for a set of rims for a while now and finally narrowed it down to either the Rota or XXR.

I know Rota has a good rep going with the Subi folks and bunch of our forum ppl have bought it as well.

Anyone know if XXR is any good?

The Rota's seem to be lighter by almost 6lbs per wheel when comparing the ROTA torque to the XXR 508. I'm not sure if that'll make a huge difference in the gas mileage...

In particular I am looking at
http://www.xxrwheels.com/xxr_519.shtml

http://www.xxrwheels.com/sportmax_508.shtml

Learning more towards the 508 in black/red. FYI my 2010 M3 is in black.

Let me know if anyone has any inputs or comments!
 
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Saw an interesting photo of a set of twisted rota's on another forum. A guy drag racing with them on a Civic with some substantial power had literally spun them. Here are the photos before/after (or more accurately, rear wheel, front wheel).

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Jason Griffith
CorkSport
 
Wooow, great pics!!

Actually I think I like them better twisted! They look very nice!

Must've been quite a lot of power on that Civic, plus maybe not so much resistance from the wheel itself?

On your selection, I like the 508's as well, though I personally would go for the Black and Chrome. Either way, I think they look great! Not really heard of XXR before...

The ROTA's are very nice also, but a bit more "common", I have seen them a lot on several cars...
 
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Wow! That Rota wheel looks quite a bit better indeed! Although, I guess that means that the structure of the wheels is compromised and unsafe to use! LoL. I don't think I'll be doing any drag racing or any racing to be honest. Only performance mods I am considering for my Mazda is for intake and (possibly mufflers) I do like how the engine has a bit of a growl when I punch it and I'd love to bring that out more with a new intake system...

A buddy of mine has an older Honda Accord Coupe Early 2000 ones (bubbly and all that) and he put in a cold air intake which makes his engine really growl!

Anyways I digress.

Thanks for the posts!

I did some more research and it seems that MPG isn't affected "that" much it affects it but its not a huge deal. Only thing would be costs and what I wanna have on my car...

Choices, choices...
 
6lbs is a big deal for unsprung weight. It will affect gas mileage, braking performance, acceleration, as well as putting more load on the suspension. I haven't heard anything bad about XXRs, a lot of miata guys run them because they are cheap and wide. But they are definitely not light.

I've had a handful of Rotas. I've never had a single problem with them, other than the paint flaking on one of them (and it was replaced free from WheelDude). Rota makes tons of nice styles (or steals the style lol), and they are pretty light and plenty strong. I've seen a small few threads about rotas bending or breaking...for the money you can't beat em.
 
Saw an interesting photo of a set of twisted rota's on another forum. A guy drag racing with them on a Civic with some substantial power had literally spun them. Here are the photos before/after (or more accurately, rear wheel, front wheel).

Note to self -- Do not buy Rota.
 
i have heard that rotas are heavy for what they are and break very easily, guy on msf had one fall apart on him driving down the highway.......didnt end well
 
Rota's are fine, especially considering their cost. Everyone "knows" someone who had a problem with one, or "heard" about some guy on the internet who had a problem with one. More urban myth than anything methinks. Granted, there have been a few defective wheels, but hell, even babies are born defective sometime and I doubt there are nearly as many defective wheels as there are defective babies. =D
 
i have heard that rotas are heavy for what they are and break very easily, guy on msf had one fall apart on him driving down the highway.......didnt end well

For a cheap, cast wheel they are light and strong. It's very rare to find a wheel priced similarly be of any better quality. Although I personally feel my 949 Racing 6ULs beat rota in the weight and quality game, but they only make one style wheel and not many sizes so...
 
Ive had a few sets of rotas and never had a problem. They take New England potholes well too. Theyre fine for any daily driver. Ive never had XXRs though, I know theyre low end quality, but I have yet to see or hear of a set thats gone bad.
 
Yup, I'm bumping an old thread to correct misinformation.

Those twisted Rotas had nothing to do with drag racing.

Here's the original thread from way back:
http://www.hondapower.de/forum/showthread.php?t=105921

Yes it was a 500 horsepower Civic, but it was being run on the Nordschleife. What actually bent them was a ton of heat generated through braking + the spokes rubbing against the caliper.

The first sentence, translated, reads: "Rota Sub zero after 3 rounds north loop on a EK4 turbo. The two rims on the front axle, by the arising forces, so strongly deformation that them at the brake caliper to have touched and by the drive power in driving direction were bent."
 
Ive had a few sets of rotas and never had a problem. They take New England potholes well too. Theyre fine for any daily driver. Ive never had XXRs though, I know theyre low end quality, but I have yet to see or hear of a set thats gone bad.


Where from in New England DarkSpeed?
 
This is how rumors get started on the internet, from someone posting pictures of which they don't know the whole story. Dan from wheeldude made a great post on another forum about Rota wheels:

There are many misconceptions with Rota wheels, most of the time these are posts made by users with no experience with the wheels. One misconception is Rota wheel weights, most models are actually very light. Rota wheels are cast wheels so they will never be the lightest wheel made, however that doesn't mean they are heavy.. Most new models like the Rota DPT in 17x9 fitment only weigh in at 18 lbs :eek:

Another misconception is the strength or overall quality of the wheels. I've seen broken Work, Enkei, Volk, etc.. in all my years modding cars and tracking my car. Any wheel can get damaged given the amount of force however these wheels do not just "grenade" on the track. The majority of our customers are buying Rota wheels for strictly track use and they are very happy with their performance. Also a time attack team who is constantly winning events runs Rota wheels {thumbup}

Quote from GST Owner/Tuner Mike Warfield

"We have smashed burms, jumped the car and done all things brutal we can and we have never hurt a Rota rim ever.

For sure the best wheel for the $ and strong as hell.

Mike
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Rota P45R
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Rota Torque R
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Another misconception is the amount of R&D that goes in to a Rota wheel. I've been to the Rota plant and seen these wheels produced, tested, etc.. There is definitely a lot of work involved in to making a wheel and money is saved as labor in the Philippines is cheaper and they are a cast wheel so the entire manufacturing process isn't as expensive.

I definitely stand behind these products as I truly believe they are quality wheels. I've ran tons of wheels over the years including Volk, Work, etc.. and I still love Rota wheels and run them daily on my car on the street, on the track, etc.. PAWI (the company that manufactures Rota wheels) has been in business since the 1970's and has been producing quality wheels for a long time. They manufacture a ton of wheels for the OEM markets (Toyota, Ford, Datsun, Isuzu, Mercedes-Benz, VW, etc..). We also visit Rota and fly all the way from the US to the Philippines to attend meetings, review our upcoming wheels, monitor production, etc.. This is a product we believe in and hope you guys can see that


A few pictures from our last trip a few months ago

production meetings
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looking over different wheel finishes for our new releases
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no R&D?? please.... every wheel is blue printed, goes through computer simulations for testing, produced, tested on various equipment to ensure all JWL/VIA standards are met, etc..
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again you say no R&D? Every new wheel is tested thoroughly to make sure they exceed all JWL/VIA test standards, this alone proves they are strong wheels and can withstand a lot of abuse
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Toyota? Yep the largest car manufacture in the world runs Rota's :D
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Rota Wheels, Engineered to perform {thumbup}
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If anyone has any other questions about the production of Rota wheels or anything at all pertaining to Rotas I'd be happy to answer them :)

Karlton
 
Where in the Phils is Rota's production facility?

I wouldn't mind visiting next time I am there.

-Derrick
 

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