World's first mazdaspeed5 (merged)
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mazdaspeedster3
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- Mazdaspeed3. 2008
Big time. We have been pining for this for some time now. Living not far from C&D I am always looking for this thing to rip by me.
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They just probably still need to tune it. Just cut the hood and fabricate a hood scoop (or get one of those fake ones and turn it to a real one) for the intercooler.
I'd only recommend TCs/SCs for the mechanically inclined, there's a lot of tuning involved. The joy of the MazdaSpeed 3 is that the turbo is engineered and tuned at the factory, it could probably be tuned to provide even more power but for the non mechanically inclined, 263 HP is good enough. All you have to do is know how to drive it.
I'd only recommend TCs/SCs for the mechanically inclined, there's a lot of tuning involved. The joy of the MazdaSpeed 3 is that the turbo is engineered and tuned at the factory, it could probably be tuned to provide even more power but for the non mechanically inclined, 263 HP is good enough. All you have to do is know how to drive it.
oaklandopen
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i was wondering when they were gonna get that done...and now that they are im not impressed. but as if i would ever own a mini van anyway
MADCITYSPECV
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here's an update:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rn_of_the_boss_wagon_mazdaspeed_5_project_car
looks like it's a kick ass build. some problems (needs proper tuning), but it seems to be worth it.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...rn_of_the_boss_wagon_mazdaspeed_5_project_car
looks like it's a kick ass build. some problems (needs proper tuning), but it seems to be worth it.
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my3needsaname
Awesome. That is the real boss wagon.
oaklandopen
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i wonder if they coulda tried to put the new v6 from the mazda6 in there? just as much power without turbo components
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- 2008 Mazda5 5MT Sport w/ Popular Package
Awesome, it looks sick, although does not seem that bolt-on LOL
We knew that the engine-bay wiring harness from the Mazdaspeed 3 would have to be used in the conversion. We were hoping the connections aft of the fire wall would allow the Speed 3 ECU to function with the 5s remaining electrical architecture that controls the radio, power windows, air conditioning, and so on.
Not a chance. The layout of the body wiring harness is the same in both carsboth form a large H, crossing under the front seats with the same grounding locationsbut the makeup is so different that we realized the project would require the full harness of the Speed 3 to accompany the engine swap. The Mazda 5 uses a body control module (BCM) to talk to all of the electrical components, while the Speed 3 uses what the Mazda service manual calls a passenger junction box (PJB). Both counterparts include a computer to control the various functions, but they differ widely in shape, size, and electrical connections. The largest difference is that the PJB incorporates the cabin fuse box.
In both cars, the PJB and the BCM sit behind the glove box, but Mazda R&D said that substituting the BCM for the PJB would be next to impossible. By now, Barnes was already wondering what was happening with the project and why one of the guys responsible for wrecking his MX-5 in the Nelson Ledges race was in charge.
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Initial acceleration results were, um, less than desirable because the engine stuttered at high rpm. The new front-mounted intercooler and aftermarket intake apparently were not agreeing with the factory-tuned ECU (we didnt want to cut a hole in the hood to feed the Speed 3s top-mounted intercooler). The 3549-pound project car stuttered its way to 60 mph in 7.2 seconds. Sheesh. The 379-pound lighter Speed 3 can do it in 5.5. Yikes! If its any consolation, at least our car can outrun a stock Mazda 5 manual by 1.7 seconds. Also, chassis performance shined. Thanks to its tire upgrade, our 5 needed only 165 feet, or two more yards than a Speed 3, to stop from 70 mph and held onto the skidpad with 0.88 g of grip, just 0.01 less than a Speed 3. With any luck, well get the engine software worked out. Look for improved performance numbers in a future issue.
Source:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews..._boss_wagon_mazdaspeed_5_project_car/(page)/1
We knew that the engine-bay wiring harness from the Mazdaspeed 3 would have to be used in the conversion. We were hoping the connections aft of the fire wall would allow the Speed 3 ECU to function with the 5s remaining electrical architecture that controls the radio, power windows, air conditioning, and so on.
Not a chance. The layout of the body wiring harness is the same in both carsboth form a large H, crossing under the front seats with the same grounding locationsbut the makeup is so different that we realized the project would require the full harness of the Speed 3 to accompany the engine swap. The Mazda 5 uses a body control module (BCM) to talk to all of the electrical components, while the Speed 3 uses what the Mazda service manual calls a passenger junction box (PJB). Both counterparts include a computer to control the various functions, but they differ widely in shape, size, and electrical connections. The largest difference is that the PJB incorporates the cabin fuse box.
In both cars, the PJB and the BCM sit behind the glove box, but Mazda R&D said that substituting the BCM for the PJB would be next to impossible. By now, Barnes was already wondering what was happening with the project and why one of the guys responsible for wrecking his MX-5 in the Nelson Ledges race was in charge.
......
Initial acceleration results were, um, less than desirable because the engine stuttered at high rpm. The new front-mounted intercooler and aftermarket intake apparently were not agreeing with the factory-tuned ECU (we didnt want to cut a hole in the hood to feed the Speed 3s top-mounted intercooler). The 3549-pound project car stuttered its way to 60 mph in 7.2 seconds. Sheesh. The 379-pound lighter Speed 3 can do it in 5.5. Yikes! If its any consolation, at least our car can outrun a stock Mazda 5 manual by 1.7 seconds. Also, chassis performance shined. Thanks to its tire upgrade, our 5 needed only 165 feet, or two more yards than a Speed 3, to stop from 70 mph and held onto the skidpad with 0.88 g of grip, just 0.01 less than a Speed 3. With any luck, well get the engine software worked out. Look for improved performance numbers in a future issue.
Source:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews..._boss_wagon_mazdaspeed_5_project_car/(page)/1
Yeah but the 5 is based off of the 3 so I think thats where they were going with it.
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- 2008 Mazda5 5MT Sport w/ Popular Package
I agree, just check the 6MT shifter fitting, it looks odd. I just love the position of the OEM one, very ergonomic.
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sleeperstang199
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wow huge FAIL IMO big waste of money....time.....hahahahahaha....i dont even know what to say.
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