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Dude... I respect the Maxima for what it is... You're proally right about being able to beat a stock MSP... but lets face it... The 3, and the Protege were never really meant to be fast straighline cars... Drag racing's fun... but most of it is in the numbers... A 170hp car won't beat a 255hp car (i know the max is heavier, but still, generally) unless the 255hp guy can't drive... I bet the Maxima coulnd't pace a P5 on track.

BTW... who said they beat a 3.5 Altima Stock??? They're faster than the top of the line Maxima... I doubt you beat this guy... even if he was running auto, there's only like a half sec difference 0-60...

BTW... has anyone calculated the physics for something like that? Lets say a car takes 9s to hit 100kph... and another car takes 9.5s. How much further behind will the 9.5s car be when the first car hits 100kph? BTW... 100kph is 27.7m/s if anyone really wants to work this out.

Sorry...again I'm a newbie to Mazda thanx to my wife's 3s....anyhow, I was referring to my own maxima, a 2k model (VQ30 engine puts down 222 hp stock, and about 235 with my limited mods to it). The 255 hp maxima is the 2k2-3 models with the VQ35 engine, wayyyy more torque than mine as well. As to track....you're probably right, at least stock for stock. My wife's 3 stock probably holds the road on switchbacks about as well as my maxima with RSB, FSTB, and front frame connectors, plus 235-width rubber.

The maxima is a boat with the stock suspension, but a few bolt ons and it can be tightened up big time. That said, the msp (and the3) are much lighter and therefore have less momentum to the sides in corners.

As to total track (say some switchbacks and some longer straights) I give the edge to maxima....the VQ35 have so much muscle all the way through the range it's sick. Now, on an autocross course the MSP probably has the edge bc its at slower speeds...

\BTW the 3.5 Altima has the SAME engine as the 2k2-2k4 maximas (the VQ30)...tuned down just a little. 3.5 Alti runs 10 less hp than the maxima of the same year, but is also "slightly" lighter. between the two, it's a driver's race.

Though I don't really like the Altima, I will point out that several major testing/automotive publications have rated it as the "fastest front-wheel drive production car ever built".....

so stock for stock, you can't beat it for straightline speed.

Anyways, I'm jsut trying to learn about the mazdas....besides my wife's 3s, there is s MSP, a regular protege, a Protege5, and a RX8 in my neighborhood. Plus my boss just dropped a S/C in his old Miata......
 
Yea, you seem to know your stuff. I'd proally agree with you that the Maxima could muscle it's way on the track, but I'm still inclined to say that a MSP would pull a better track time than a Maxima... Also, are then new Altima's 250hp now? I heard they got a slight boost. BTW, how's the wife's 3?
 
she loves it.....in fact I am rarely "allowed" to drive it!

Anyhow I love the way the 3 handles, esp with the 's" package.....but it's kind of hard to re-adjust to a 4cyl feel since I drive the torquey maxima every day. The 3's a fun car though, and far superior in handling and accelleration than all of the other cars in its class (Civic, Sentra, etc...)

Although I have to ask why the hell Mazda put the GIANT Mazda logo on the trunk. It looks pretty lame IMO. I'm gonna have to debadge her 3....
 
Stop the flames people. State the facts, and leave the name-calling out. Not good. Thread closed.
 
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