Which coilovers?

[bill harvey]

ok which should i get The tein ss, the kw's or awr's street set? I am sort of lost here with which way to go. I do run on the track as often as i can so that is what they are for. Any sugestions? anyone who owns any of them want to say anything good or bad?

 

[Wha'Happened]

I vote for TEIN

 

[wicked]

I have used the TEIN's and the KW and it's a total tose up,but I do think the KW's last longer,and the adjustment jam nuts don't ever corrode.
and that is a BIG plus because you just rinse them and adjust them,easy.
the TEIN's got kinda hard to adjust after awhile.
and I think the TEIN's are stiffer,but I'm not sure.

 

[vodapas77]

For the best balance of ride comfort and handling I'd vote Tein. But, I don't have long time experience with them. So, I can't speak for reliability.

 

[Mallard]

Judging from this chart, the Super Street Tein's won't offer much in the relm of track performance, although will still be streetable and height adjustable. I beleive the spring rate is close to the KW's too. There's a thread around here somewhere with all the spring rates listed.

As for the KW's, they're stainless steel and heavy. Not really the greatest for cutting weight in a 'race' car. Although they'll never corrode and probably great for year round use.

The AWR's are proven, but will probably be too stiff for daily driving and not height adjustable.

That's just my take on everything I've read.

 

[speedhawaii]

i only know of tein didnt know awr had some out

 

[Bhamsan]

I say screw it all and get some JIC Magic coil overs. I've seen them before on a MKIV Supra and IS300 and the ride is unbelieveable. They cost a lot more than Teins, but they are the best, IMO.

 

[ricenudles]

I say screw it all and get some JIC Magic coil overs. I've seen them before on a MKIV Supra and IS300 and the ride is unbelieveable. They cost a lot more than Teins, but they are the best, IMO.

The thing is, I've heard both good and bad from JICs. I've heard that they're awesome. Then again, I've also heard that they're complete trash. Somebody is lying...oh well. My personal preference is tein, but I would rather have a nice set of apex'i n1s, which isn't available. Too bad life isn't fair.

 

[bill harvey]

I looked ate th JIC magics but i have heard that when they break you can't get them fixed. the price difference isn't really an issue since the awr's are close to what the jic cost.

 

[Sushi-Monster]

tockigo... make sure its the white one

You cannot go wrong with these struts... Adjustable with a Canadian quarter... fuggin nutz... When I feel the MSP suspension is losing it, I'll upgrade to those...

 

[ARunto]

JIC's...(shameless plug) got a set of FLT-A1's forsale

 

[element.8]

i vote none of the above, and go jic-magic flt-a2's.


you really cannot argue with their quality. sure, they've had some customer service issues lately, but **** it...the damn things are rediculous!

 

[Mallard]

If I were you I would get the KW's or the JIC FLT-A2's.

The KW's have been proven by Micaspeed to be a good product, and they are to his specifications, built to handle, not for comfort (like the Super Street Tein's) They will not corrode so if you drive your car year round you shouldn't have any problems. The downside is stainless steel is heavy.

The FLT-A2's are aluminum bodied and have a good reputation from a couple people on here. You can order them with custom spring rates if you want your own specs or you could give them your info and they'll choose whats best for your application. (Costs more $$ though) However, I have heard from 2 people that saw shock dyno data for these that they really didn't change that much over the 15-way adjustment range. I know Road/Race Engineering revalves FLT-A2's for EVO's, so that may be an option to look into. The big downside is that the JIC's cost ~$2,000 and the KW's cost ~$1,400. That extra cash in your pocket may be the determining factor.

I'm sure the AWR's are nice, and of good quality. But they are not height adjustable, so you may not be able to set up corner weights the way you want to. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[mazdaowner123]

Good thread, good info.

~brian

 

[bill harvey]

The AWR's are hieght adjustable just not bump and rebound adjustable

 

[srd555]

The AWR's are hieght adjustable just not bump and rebound adjustable

Bill, I am going with the AWR just as soon as I save up enough money.
Heres why:

1. It was designed with racing in mind and has a stronger housing.
2. It uses Bilstein inserts that you can buy seperately when they wear out.
3. It uses ERS springs that you can buy anywere for about $50 and they come in 25lb/in incraments. So if you dont like how the car rides/performs you can just buy another rate spring.

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[srd555]

Why is any of that stuff important?


Well, when I had my Spec V I bought the Tein ss. The car would understeer heavily when pushed hard in a corner (at least with my driving style ) ; I suspected it was because the front rate (336 lb/in) was stiffer than the rear(280lb/in). Since I did not want the car to snap oversteer by going too high, I decided to upgrade the rear to the next highest rate, Tein goes up in incraments of 56 lb/in so the next highest rate was 280+56= 336lb/in. The extra springs were only available from Tein and cost $79 per spring.



I hope this helps

 

[mp3moose]

Nice thread. I am leaning toward the jic a1's myself. I like awr, but their parts have some quality control issues.

 

[Wesman II]

I have the JICs they rock on the track. They were a b**** to install though.

 

[mp3moose]

what was so hard about the install?