What is your tuning preference? N/A, Turbo, or SuperCharging?

[BlueMonsta]

Whats ur tuning perference? N/A Turbo SuperCharging N why plz

Just wondering what ppl perfer in tuning thats all.
I perfer N/A, because u can get the smoothest power curve out of them all, and no lag. helps me corner!

Turbo/supercharger - even with ALOT of tuning there is still a bit of lag... but i do love the bov noise.. =)

 

[mp5jeff]

what car are you asking about? a protege? id have to say forced induction, because n/a on these motors won't prevail to be fast...unless you want to spend a shitload of money...

 

[mp5jeff]

also are you asking about road racing, or drag racing, etc... for autox and such, i would probably keep it n/a just so its more predictable, and for drag racing, well i think thats obvious.

 

[Phoenix5]

I like N/A because of the fact that the engine isn't being forced to work harder and you get a fair gas milage(usually).

I also like turbocharging because it adds torque along with the hp(which is why I'm getting a WRX for my next car).And unlike supercharging,it's not always on so you get decent gas milage.

 

[Jawaiian23]

If you want straight line power go for forced induction. I think N/A is always best in road racing/auto-x. I've lapped road courses in N/A cars quicker than a turbo charged cars. It's always nice to beat someone in a car with less hp/torque.

 

[iluvmacs]

Compression ratio is the only thing that actually increases the efficiency of an engine, as opposed to just adding fuel to it. If you think about it, tuning an engine to suck down more fuel (more power), is the same as using an engine that makes that power to begin with. You only save the weight.

Increasing compression ratio makes more power with the same amount of gas.

I do however, believe in tuning an engine for torque/hp at certain rpms.

 

[Turbo Matty P]

<~~~pro-supercharger. it gives immediate off-idle boost with 0 lag. It's apositive displacement pump (unlike turbo). It maintains stock engine characteristics when not in boost (gas mileage, drivability, etc...) They add much less heat under the hood and depending on application add much les heat to the intake charge. Superchargers can be internally lubricated without the need for running oil lines or coolant lines. Superchargers require no additional oil changes since they do not contribute to oil break down.

N/A is great for auto-x, but trying to make the same power NA as SC'd is not cool. You can stretch a motors limits to the point where they will make the same power, but it's like pulling a rubber band....eventually it's just going to snap under tha strain.

 

[jaje]

with the mazda engine i think turbo is the only way to go b/c they are pretty weak in power compared to the competition (b20vtec can put down 180whp and 170wtq with a vafc, cai everything else oem stock parts)...so i vote turbo for the fsde b/c it needs serious help

 

[BlueMonsta]

i was just wondering in general =).
Whats auto-x?
I usually watch JGTC, F1 or something non-nascar...

I test drove the mazda sedan 2.3 L 160 hp yesterday...
It found it fast, considering I have a 91 protege LX but my uncle found it ass slow...lol. But the low end of the mazda 3 is weaker than my car... so yah.


BTW: how much does it cost to tune an N/A engine? just wondering or is it more cost effective to engine swap?

 

[RageSpec]

turbo is the way to go, though my next car will be tuned n/a

 

[smithers_0990]

I perfer N/A, because u can get the smoothest power curve out of them all, and no lag. helps me corner!

I think of it this way.

With out a turbo you are always lagging.(cheers)

 

[RageSpec]

I think of it this way.

With out a turbo you are always lagging.(cheers)

for the price of a turbo, all the piping and parts, and an intercooler I can build an N/A motor that will be faster than the turbo equivalent. it just takes more thought and planning. the only instance it's better to have a turbo is if you already have bought every possible internal component.. then you add a tubo to go beyond that power rating. but that's droppin 20-30 grand on a car.

then you have a funny-car.

 

[chinaman]

I like big block V8s the best... .. But for the protege I like turbos...

 

[smithers_0990]

for the price of a turbo, all the piping and parts, and an intercooler I can build an N/A motor that will be faster than the turbo equivalent. it just takes more thought and planning. the only instance it's better to have a turbo is if you already have bought every possible internal component.. then you add a tubo to go beyond that power rating. but that's droppin 20-30 grand on a car.

I find that hard to believe. $3,995.00 for a Hiboost kit, say $4,500 total (extra parts). I highly doubt you would be able to build a motor that would reliably put 210hp to the wheels.<O</O


Im not flaming you, just stating what I think.

Later(drinks) <O</O

 

[mp5jeff]

for the price of a turbo, all the piping and parts, and an intercooler I can build an N/A motor that will be faster than the turbo equivalent. it just takes more thought and planning. the only instance it's better to have a turbo is if you already have bought every possible internal component.. then you add a tubo to go beyond that power rating. but that's droppin 20-30 grand on a car.

then you have a funny-car.

this is not true, to get anywhere near the power/price of a turbo kit, you are going to have to use some really high compression and you still won't come close(and you will now have to run 93+octane because of really high compression or you WILL get knock) and i have yet to see a n/a motor on this board push 150whp, let alone 230whp that some of the turbo fs-de's are running. And adding a turbo to the n/a motor you just built with super high compression = dumb.(unless you are a perfectionist at tuning and willing to run race gas, your engine will blow)
ps. this is all if we are talking about the fs-de.

 

[protegerhm]

supercharger

were can i find a supercharger for my 96 protege?

 

[insanoman2005]

everyones picking turbos cause there aint no supercharger for the protege!

 

[Gen1GT]

It's nice to see many NA fans. NA power is about the intangibles. Smooth power delivery, the sound, engine braking etc. But dollar for dollar it's the most expensive by far. I'm budgeting $11,000CDN for a goal of about 170whp. I'm pretty sure I'll make more than that, but I set my goals low to avoid disappointment.

 

[mp5jeff]

how much is 11k in us like 8k?

 

[Vanimaniac]

Up here in Denver, altitude kills the N/A. I live on the westside of town at about 6000 ft up and when I go snowboarding I drive over passes close to 12,000 ft above sea level! Unless I move to some place close to sea level, I'll stick with my turbo. My wife's P5 felt like it gained a good 10-15 HP just from the altitude change when we took it to Cali this past spring. Out here, for every V6 Audi/VW you see, there are like 20 1.8T's.

Van