What cars can the MS3 run with?

Micah · May 20, 2007

I agree on the f-body reference. I used to have an old z28 with quite a few mods on the engine, trans, rear, and exhaust. The 350Z has a much better suspension setup, but the stance of the car, how you drive it and the torque delivery - yeah, I could see it.

FWIW

http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/112_0703_2007_honda_s2000_americas_best_handling/

2003 Honda S2000 6.3 14.9 (Manual)
2004 Honda S2000 5.8 14.2 (MT Mar '04)
2006 Honda S2000 5.5 14.0 (C&D May '06)
2003 Nissan 350z 5.4 14.1 287hp/274tq
2004 Nissan 350z Roadster 5.7 14.3 287hp/274tq
2004 Nissan 350Z 5.3 13.77 (M.T. Mar '04) 287hp/274tq
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3 (C&D Apr '05) 300hp/260tq

Karma_hunden · May 20, 2007

I see. Everyone says the S2K is very fun. It has me wondering lol...i wanna drive one. However, that thing is expensive compared to the Z. You can get an 07 Z that runs (im guessing) just a bit faster than the S2K for 28K-29K, way less than the 34K price tag S2Ks have here. Plus I cant deal with that electronic tachometer/speedometer...drives me nuts just to see flashing things lol...and the speed numbers when you are going fast...55..56...59...65...69....78..wtf? lol

Scott · May 20, 2007

Karma_hunden said:
I see. Everyone says the S2K is very fun. It has me wondering lol...i wanna drive one. However, that thing is expensive compared to the Z. You can get an 07 Z that runs (im guessing) just a bit faster than the S2K for 28K-29K, way less than the 34K price tag S2Ks have here. Plus I cant deal with that electronic tachometer/speedometer...drives me nuts just to see flashing things lol...and the speed numbers when you are going fast...55..56...59...65...69....78..wtf? lol

Straight line, the Z seems to be a little quicker, because it has the torque off the line that the S2000 lacks. However, I've yet to find a 350Z that can keep up with me around a road course. Not saying that it couldn't happen. I'm simply saying that it hasn't happenned yet.

The S2000 is a blast, but you really have to focus when you want to have fun with it. If you aren't careful, you'll wind up pointed in the wrong direction real easily. But once you get the hang of it, it's a pure joy to toss around a course. In fact, the only reason I'm awake at 5:30AM is because I'm just about to head out the door to a track day up at Gainesville Raceway. Woo!

TheDutchGun · May 20, 2007

FRUCTOSE said:
My bad when I said track I ment 1/4 mile! The MS3's are great track cars and play with some of the best (under $40,000.00) and some over!

My thing is why don't they just put the MZR in the RX-8???!!!

I would pay $30,000+ for that car any day.

Can't remember what mag did the article but the RX-8 still beat up on the 2007 350Z on everything but power! Add power to the car and bamm best car ever.... lol!

If they put the MZR in the RX-8 wouldn't it then become an MX-8 seeing as how it would no longer be Rotary?

clos561 · May 20, 2007

they should just make a limited turbo or something rotary...thats y they say rx ( rotary experiment ) thats would be stupid if theychange it

Koenig · May 20, 2007

clos561 said:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-3-Timeslip-10980.html

here beat this time...

That ms3 isn't stock, he's also running the gt3071R turbo upgrade.... let's keep it fair kids (hippy)

clos561 · May 20, 2007

yea but he ran the time either way.....we were talking about times not upgrades n s***

Koenig · May 20, 2007

clos561 said:
yea but he ran the time either way.....we were talking about times not upgrades n s***

you put all that stuff on a MS6.....including the drag radials and I guarantee you'll have it running UNDER that time........... stock for stock the ms6 is faster in the 1/4 (thanks to the AWD)

with all those upgrades I wouldn't doubt a ms6 could run low 12s high 11s on that setup (breakn)

oh not to mention, MS6Mike recently ran a 12.8 at the track (2thumbs)

clos561 · May 20, 2007

what did he do to the car? never mind i found it...CP-E Standback EMS, CP-E CAI, CP-E Downpipe, CPE catback exhaust, SU engine mount AutoEXE Springs, RX8 wheels, autometer bosst gauge, greddy turbo timer, shark fin, limo tint 5% and 35% front windshield...he posted that he ran 12.85 but ****** a bunch of s*** up....

Koenig · May 20, 2007

clos561 said:
what did he do to the car? never mind i found it...CP-E Standback EMS, CP-E CAI, CP-E Downpipe, CPE catback exhaust, SU engine mount AutoEXE Springs, RX8 wheels, autometer bosst gauge, greddy turbo timer, shark fin, limo tint 5% and 35% front windshield...he posted that he ran 12.85 but ****** a bunch of s*** up....

yeah he broke the 4 bolt mount in the rear end..... (lol2)

but still imagine if mike had the turbo upgrade, and the turbo back exhaust, and better headers, etc. etc. and a proper tune for his setup.... he might not have broke anything. There's another guy who gets his stuff hooked up from protegegarage.com and ran a 12.9 without ******* anything up.

I'm not saying the MS3s aren't fast I've tested one (damn that sucky torque steer).... I'm just saying the same setup and drag radials on the ms6 can yield some fast times as well.

Karma_hunden · May 21, 2007

MS6Mike broke his differential on one of the last runs...previous to the last one, since the last one is the one we realized he had broken the diff on the prev. by doing a fwd burn out/"launch." The 12.85 was ran in the mid runs.

We ran like 15 times...on the 14th, the diff. broke...on the 5-7th we hit the 12s...we just kept going and cranking up the boost to see if we could brake that with no avail. That was done on 17psi, so we pumped it to 18psi and rana few...we figured...more boost=faster...apparently not. We also tried 19.5psi and ran the rest...till it broke it...too bad it was the diff. and not the record lol.

MS6mike · May 21, 2007

12.85 at 105mph FTW!!!!!!!!(guitar)

Betelgeuse · May 21, 2007

Well that's the downside of AWD, when you pay for playing, you pay a lot. Just more things to break I guess. The dealer offered me a sweet deal on one but knowing the kind of driver I was, I didn't want the headache plus I needed the utility.

It was no surprise the ms6 hit 12s, been saying that was possible way before people were even hitting mid 13s. Nice to see people with Mazdas can run with or even outrun the STI/EVO crowd.

MS6mike · May 21, 2007

now only if we could beet those huge Diesel trucks!

Koenig · May 21, 2007

MS6mike said:
now only if we could beet those huge Diesel trucks!

never happen dude......... they are EASY to mod, you can get more power out of diesel than gas...... and they have a LOT of torque. I've seen videos of a Chevy turbo diesel running i think was a low 11 or high 10 time... I ease like (wow)

MS6mike · May 21, 2007

yea, the funny thing was i was blowing more smoke than those diessel truks!

Koenig · May 21, 2007

that doesn't sound good....

clos561 · May 21, 2007

y were u blowing so much smoke

MS6mike · May 21, 2007

i don't have the upgraded turbo seal, so the turbo is letting some oil in the exhaust! since i have no cats now i see the smoke. Jorge is going to help me fix this issue!

clos561 · May 22, 2007

u did a turbo upgrade?

What cars can the MS3 run with?

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