Yeah i do like it. i had it set to recirculate and VTA but i was not getting the peek boost that i wanted. So now it is set to recirculate only. But YES it does make that sound even thought it is set to recirculate only.
What bpv to get?
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Yeah i do like it. i had it set to recirculate and VTA but i was not getting the peek boost that i wanted. So now it is set to recirculate only. But YES it does make that sound even thought it is set to recirculate only.
the guy i got the ets from had a turbosmart and said his car ran terrible and sold it. i cant viuch for how well it works.
i would recommend the ets, a very good mod and was noticeable when installed. when i got it mu wife was with me she didnt want me to spend a lot so i gave the cash to the guy when she wasnt looking so she wouldnt know how much i paid.
the greddy type s i still have as in the pic. its in mint condition and looks brand new. sounds sexy in vta but the car runs terrible in vta honestly. the hks in vta rides like recirc when vta its awesome.
Bonafide_Spd3
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Dang, wish I could get an ets tmic. Heat soak down in florida sucks. Can't avoid it. And is a pretty easy mod to do in a couple of minutes. Maybe I'll go that route before the hks. I'm gonna go with the hks now, Loved how it sounded on my buddies srt4. I'll just have to wait alittle bit longer to get the ets. Nothing wrong with my stock bpv right now anyways, just love how the hks sounds. Thanks again for pictures and advice, I appreciate it
what about this one? It is the new turbo smart BPV, unlike there duel bov/bpv it is just a BPV and is only 159 BUCKS!!! you can also adjust the stpring by turning the top. But its only at street unit.
Its a preorder now!. Looks sweet
Now, finally, power and performance enter the discussion rather than how subjectively "sick" the sound is. There's no way to measure what your ear likes. You just go with what you like. Sort of like the difference between hip hop, or classic or country music.
Some of us would rather be seen (getting smaller by the second as we pull away) than heard. It is fact that there are no, I repeat, no power gains to be had with our engines by using a BOV, and that performance declines unless running it in pure recirc mode, which defeats the whole purpose of the BOV other than personal preferences for sound.
But the Trubosmart true BPV might, and I say might until it is proven to be so, hold boost better for someone who has a leaking stock BPV. For now, I ain't leaking so I'm staying stock. But I'd consider a better made true BPV as cheap insurance.
Just one opinion, and thanks for offering the BPV as an alternative.
my stock one wasn't leaking according to my boost guage, but it was slow to respond and did not hold the higher psi it seemed. I would sit at 14psi when holding, never leaking out, but only at 14psi. It was also slow to respond, seemed like it took a bit longer to close and to get into boost.
When i put on the ebay knockoff greddy (blue valve) it was an immediate difference, apiking at 19-20 and holding at 17-18 or so. I have a boost guage not a DH so trying to read the number is a bit tougher. But the response time of the valve was much improved almost instantaneous as opposed to the stock one which seemed to lag when boost was being built up
When i put on the ebay knockoff greddy (blue valve) it was an immediate difference, apiking at 19-20 and holding at 17-18 or so. I have a boost guage not a DH so trying to read the number is a bit tougher. But the response time of the valve was much improved almost instantaneous as opposed to the stock one which seemed to lag when boost was being built up
Bonafide_Spd3
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On my boost gauge, I go up to 15-16 psi and hold it to 5500 rpm in 2nd and 3rd gear. Haven't really got the chance to do it in 4th. Not alot of roads here to open the car up without having to worry about a ticket.
thats very well put. Which makes me wonder why so many people are obsessed with getting a few extra psi, spending loads of cash on the AP to get that extra bit of power, or worrying too much about getting the right springs/shims in their forge. If you can't even find a place to floor it. I loved the sound of my greddy type-s, it didnt hold as well as the ebay knockoff greddy did, but it sounded awesome. And I too can never find a road long enough to floor it and "hold" without having to worry about (five-0) So the whole story about what "holds" better probably doesnt matter for both you and I. So I say get what sounds the best to you. I'm pretty sure the Turbosmart sounds pretty loud and good, thats what its made to do, function in recirc yet blow off at the same time and be loud.
Just a thought about the new TS valve. Valves like this that adjust by screwing the top tighter have one major downfall. When you tighten it up it does add spring pressure, which is what you want up to a point. The down side is that when tightened a lot it limits how much the piston can move to vent. So you end up having to keep it loose to prevent surge, but then your spool up suffers. I learned this from the greddy i had. I was the same s***, tighten the screw crap. It was always too tight or too loose. It was never just right. Thats why i like the forge. You can replace the whole spring. That allows you to increase the spring rate, but not limit the piston travel. Just my .02
also a good explaination for why the spring loaded types like the greddy arent as good. I too had to battle around to try and get the right spring tension with my Greddy. Too soft and it blows open, too hard and it surges and doesnt open enough. It was a battle for a while, it sounded good, but was tough to adjust to the right specs and once it's set you best not touch it! But after getting an inlet it then needed to be adjusted yet again to compensate for the extra air and I could NEVER get it to the right adjustment again.
Yep, same here. Just when i would get it to a point that i was somewhat pleased with it i would add a new mod and it would need to be tweeked again. Its a problem with all valves that tighten that way... turbosmart, turbo XS, greddy, and a bunch of knock offs. The only valves that are not like thisare the HKS, which i also ran for a while. It was better than the greddy but had no adjustability. I hate that. Bpv's need proper setting. There is no one size fits all. Forge is king of the bpv's IMO. Its cheap, reliable, and is easily dialed in just the way i like it.
I like thr HKS the best right now since it can be run in VTA and doesnt ride like the other valves when in VTA, Drives like stock pretty much. But I agree the adjustability would be nice on the HKS, I get flutter which sounds cool, but not sure if thats any surge or not, and you cant adjust any of it out tho.
I would try the forge if it sounded like the greddy
I may need to hear a forge in person to see if its really as bad as every video ive ever heard of it
I would try the forge if it sounded like the greddy
I may need to hear a forge in person to see if its really as bad as every video ive ever heard of itFrankie3mps
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BPV options
I know its been covered a bit but in terms of BPV, whats the best option...
i dont want to VTA so we can cancel that out.
i see the forge has a bpv but know ppl who have them that it makes the "kaaaaching" noise which i do not want. i dont know if the bpv however makes that noise. All i want is a bpv that holds boost better than the stocker. nice and quiet. prfer not to have noise but a little is ok
perhaps i need a bov and recirc it?
I know its been covered a bit but in terms of BPV, whats the best option...
i dont want to VTA so we can cancel that out.
i see the forge has a bpv but know ppl who have them that it makes the "kaaaaching" noise which i do not want. i dont know if the bpv however makes that noise. All i want is a bpv that holds boost better than the stocker. nice and quiet. prfer not to have noise but a little is ok
perhaps i need a bov and recirc it?
Bonafide_Spd3
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True that, that is why I'm staying away from the forge. Just sounded terrible from the videos I heard. I agree with you yet again uhateit. I thought forge was going to come out with another bpv that didn't make the swords clashing together. I finally got some good runs in today. My boost isn't consistant. Sometimes would fall at 5500 rpm. And other times would drop right at 4500 rpm. Would that be the bpv? It kept on going back and forth between those rpms. I think it is the IC
How about that new Turbo Smart BPV valve from SU? Looks like a good way to go to me but I have no clue what it sounds like. I'm not a big fan of putting parts on my car just for sound though.
You can find it right on the ********** dot com website. New exclusive Turbosmart valve.
You can find it right on the ********** dot com website. New exclusive Turbosmart valve.
Frankie3mps
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yes i have seen that on the SU website... no idea when its coming out though
for both you and I we dont have enough room or freedom without cops to floor it to hold boost at 20psi or any of that crap, I just like a little spirited lane changes and getting on the freeway fast, otherwise I drive it like a normal person in stop and go traffic. So for me I don't care if I get a bpv that holds crazy high boost. I dont street race, I dont track, I dont autocross. So for me whatver sounds good is all that matters. The Greddy type-s by far sounds the greatest in my taste of loudness and sound. But the HKS will drive very close to stock when in VTA, so you can get the loudness/coolness factor and still get great driveability. So if you are like me, I'd say get what sounds the best to you, because chances are you're never going to need to be "holding" at 19-20 psi anywhere anytime, so if you have a valve that works very well and sounds dope to you, you'll feel great about it.
