Water/Methanol Injection, Anyone Use It?

[mSHOCKERp]

Just like the topic implies, does anyone use water/methanol injection on their MSP? My friend is a VW guy and it is pretty popular with them, it seems like a win/win honestly. I don't want rediculous power but I do want to run some good power (200whp) with some supporting mods and without worrying about my engine popping. Here is what I have done so far to the engine:

- Custom FMIC and Hardpiping
- 3" Full Custom Turbo Back Exhaust with Corksport S-Pipe
- Forge BOV (might switch out soon)
- Denso IK22 Iridium Plugs

I'd like to run 10-12 psi daily and without worry, right now I'm at 8.5 and I haven't adjusted the boost, just from the mods. Thanks for any suggestions and comments. I'll include some pics for views

Mike

 

[Kagymp5]

your going to be really pushing the engine with anything above 10psi on stock internals...

 

[Maxx Mazda]

JVJ Civil ran an Aquamist system on his whip I believe...

 

[Professor MSP]

I run an Engine Run-up system. It consists of a Coolingmist vari-cooler progressive controller, Shurflo 150 psi pump, checkvalve, 303 cc/minute injector, filter, and some tubing. I run a mix of 25% ethanol, 25% methanol, and 50% distilled water.

My car performs noticably better with the system, but I have yet to exploit its full capabilities, as I cannot seem to find a local Unichip tuner to optimze the tune with the alcohol/water injection system in place.

 

[69RMSP]

pm mspjeff

 

[GhostMercury]

hmm if you didnt have a unichip what would you use to controll the system

 

[69RMSP]

jeff was just using a afc

hmm if you didnt have a unichip what would you use to controll the system

obviosuly not to control the meth

 

[mSHOCKERp]

Thanks for the quick replies. So the general consensus so far is that 12 psi may be too much, and I should get management or at least a piggyback before doing this? Sorry I'm kind of lost on this one, would 10psi be better? Thanks for any other info guys/gals.

Mike

 

[GhostMercury]

just get a dsm afc from protegegarage.com and a single runner intak mani from them too and you should be around 200whp at 8psi

 

[GhostMercury]

jeff was just using a afc




obviosuly not to control the meth

so then what do you control the meth with

 

[Fudgie]

Its a self contained system activiated by boost level I believe.

 

[Maxx Mazda]

The DSM AFC I believe has an output you can have triggered at "x" psi of boost. ust hook it up to close the relay for the meth injection and you're set!

 

[GhostMercury]

The DSM AFC I believe has an output you can have triggered at "x" psi of boost. ust hook it up to close the relay for the meth injection and you're set!

we should get a write up on this

 

[69RMSP]

someone should setup a methe kit so that you would have a high boost setting then enjects meth at a certain psi eg 12 and running 8 psi on a lower setting with no meth

 

[69RMSP]

honeslty I dont remember how he has it setup but he was running it for awhile. He had it spraying into the coldpipe. I think I have that pipe in my garage actully lol...

so then what do you control the meth with

 

[GhostMercury]

id rather just set it up so i can flip a switch to turn it on for when i am STOMPING on it. and switch it off to go on my way with normal driving

 

[GhostMercury]

i think ken at pg or one of the other AMM should set up an AFFORDABLE kit.

 

[Maxx Mazda]

id rather just set it up so i can flip a switch to turn it on for when i am STOMPING on it. and switch it off to go on my way with normal driving

An output from your AFC would do that for you... You don't wanna control it yourself.

 

[GhostMercury]

didn't i use all of the wires coming from the afc while installing it?

 

[Professor MSP]

hmm if you didnt have a unichip what would you use to controll the system

My Unichip does not control the alcohol/water injection system, but I believe that it could in the hands of an experienced tuner.

The Vari-cool control module controls the injection of the fluid based on psi or MAF readings (or both). It has a minimum psi point at which spraying starts (user selectable), a maximum psi point at which spraying reaches its maximum flow rate (also user selectable), and a "tune" setting that is controlled by the user and determines the maximum flow rate of the high pressure pump. You may want to go to www.coolingmist.com for a more thorough explanation of the functioning of the progressive controller.

Hope this helps some.