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The dealership cannot legally VOID your entire warranty for having aftermarket modifications. However, they can deny a warranty claim if they can prove that the aftermarket part caused the problem.
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The dealership cannot legally VOID your entire warranty for having aftermarket modifications. However, they can deny a warranty claim if they can prove that the aftermarket part caused the problem.
TXMazdaSpeeder
T is for Turbo
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- 2003 Black Mica MSP #566
Proto, i was told by a mazda NA regional rep that i cold modifiy anything in front of the throttle body or behind the 2nd cat with the exception of nitrous.
TXMazdaSpeeder
T is for Turbo
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- 2003 Black Mica MSP #566
Btw this is bugging me.
ITS SPELT WARRANTY.
ITS SPELT WARRANTY.
Sacrilicious
boom boom!
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- Cosmic Blue MS3 of hawtness!
lolz...it's "IT'S"...(rofl2)
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- 2002 22A P5 and 2007 TR MS3
(RTM)Warranty...That's right...Sorry...
My only point is don't be so surprised when they don't accept the warranty work after you install aftermarket parts...
I really don't see many people calling the service departments BEFORE adding these parts to verify the warranty information....Then you at least have some valid arguement when the VOID stamp happens...
And I agree...Intake and Cat-back Exhaust should be OK, but it's not my car or my company...I'm just saying Mazda has a valid point.
My only point is don't be so surprised when they don't accept the warranty work after you install aftermarket parts...
I really don't see many people calling the service departments BEFORE adding these parts to verify the warranty information....Then you at least have some valid arguement when the VOID stamp happens...
And I agree...Intake and Cat-back Exhaust should be OK, but it's not my car or my company...I'm just saying Mazda has a valid point.
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- 2002 22A P5 and 2007 TR MS3
(rofl2)
TXMazdaSpeeder
T is for Turbo
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- 2003 Black Mica MSP #566
Punctuation i miss because i type to damned fast for my own good. Doh.
Sacrilicious
boom boom!
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- Cosmic Blue MS3 of hawtness!
redspeed3tk
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- 2007 speed3
its like a electrical problem when ya have a remote start installed no one is gonna try to find the problem under warranty take out the boost gauge and try again warranty shouldn't cover what you installed that wasn't recommended by the manufacturer
I sent an e-mail to my dealeship asking if they could install a boost gauge on my car (yes, more expensive, but insignificant if you blow your turbo and they don't want to cover it). I asked them to state the impact on my warranty if they cannot install it. I'll post their answer. Keep in mind I live in Canada.
samsel450r
Member
ok so i got my car back and i called the other dealer were i got the car and i asked him if it was alright to modify my exhaust and he said yes only if u still have the 2 cats and i asked him about a boost gauge he said cause its just used for monitering boost right... and then i asked about boost tubes he said thats fine... then he got tired of answering my ?'s and said as long as u dont touch the motor it self it wont void my warranty... so it looks like im going there!!!!! oh and the dealer i took my car to didnt even know what the hks bov was he said it was changing boost... like a controller... and i said that it dont change BOOST.. he's like well did mazda make it i said no... he said well then its an aftermarket piece and you cant have it... i then left but it cost me 30 bucks for the rental and $50 just to look at it for a half hour and tell me they cant work on it with the warranty... so im going to the mod friendly dealer but the only problem its just a farther away then the first on i went to... but owell
How many times will we see the same story posted over and over? A dealer or Mazda can void your warranty for the littlest of things. Even a dumb thing like my Cobb intake can get me in trouble. Yes there are laws to protect the consumer but Mazda has deep pockets and a lot more leeway and it's a pain in the ass to deal with lawyers and the like.
For those who aren't lightly modded or who can't easily remove them, best thing to do is find a dealer that's ok with your mods (or future ones) and develop a good relationship with the service advisor. Just doing that would remove a big hurdle. Don't wait for something to happen only to be voided at some joe shmoe dealer.
Good luck to the OP and the second dealer.
For those who aren't lightly modded or who can't easily remove them, best thing to do is find a dealer that's ok with your mods (or future ones) and develop a good relationship with the service advisor. Just doing that would remove a big hurdle. Don't wait for something to happen only to be voided at some joe shmoe dealer.
Good luck to the OP and the second dealer.
montrealms3
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- 2008 True Red MS3
I'm in Montreal as well . . . which dealer are you talking about?
I go to Spinelli Mazda in Lachine, they have always given me excellent service with no questions asked. But my car is stock (Protege Mazdaspeed, but this should apply to all models), so no reason not too. They say they can install my boost gauge no problem (approx $120) and they say that this should not affect the warranty in any way. I 'm sure the fact that I do my maintenance there makes a difference
montrealms3
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- 2008 True Red MS3
Cool! Thanks for the info . . . I will check them out.
ms cai is warrany for one year, hoses, belt's (wear and tear) is not covered under original factory warranty, you can look it up in your owners warranty guide, they can still check for a code and that will let you know what the problem is, becareful about going to another dealer, as long as they punch in the system that you have aftermarket parts in your car in the system it will show up in every mazda dealer service dept. in the US. What you should try is to find the sales person who sold you the car and ask him to help you out, he will be more than happy to try help you out because he wants your repeat business. The warranty only voids the areas you tamper with. Refer to your owners manual and warranty guide.
u can do minor mods, intake, 2nd cat delete,and top mount which are all reversable if needed.
Things I miss from my BMW. I had three sets of brakes covered under warranty...and free maitenance for the 50k/4year.
That is not true. They can void the entire warranty for any modification. It is stated quite plainly on page 11 of the warranty booklet.
They are very vague about "Alteration, modification, tampering, etc.." on Page 11 (2008) of your Warranty Information Booklet. They do not define what "Alterarion," "Modification," or "Tampering" are, nor do they use the typical "Including but not limited to" legalese, but rather a more informal "etc..." However, this does not change anything.
The argument will probably be made by someone that it is a warranty booklet and not a contract. But, if you look at the standard sales agreement that you signed when you purchased the car, it says:
"THE PRINTED NEW VEHICLE WARRANTY DELIVERED TO THE PURCHASER WITH SUCH A VEHICLE OR CHASSIS AND HEREBY MADE A PART OF HEREOF AS THOUGH FULLY SET FORTH HEREIN IS THE ONLY WARRANTY APPLICABLE TO SUCH A NEW VEHICLE OR CHASSIS AND IS EXPRESSLY IN LIEU OF ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE"
I am not a lawyer, but it seems that this language makes your Warranty Information booklet enforceable as part of the sales agreement, and you agreed by signing to follow maintenance according to the appropriate schedule outlined in the book.
In my non-legal opinion, it would seem reasonable that your act of modifying the car to increase performance would easily be considered a "modification" according to the definition on page 11, making your entire warranty void.
You might get a lawyer to argue your case (emphasis on "might"), and even if you could, it would cost you more than a new MS3, and you would probably lose. At least, if I were on the jury, I would see it that way.
Funny things about contracts. They are enforceable whether or not you read them before you signed them...
