warning, RANT inside...
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Ooo OO I just unwittingly responded to this in the OTHER 'some people suck' thread, lol: (how to piss off tailgaters)
There you go; that's their issue. Same reason they pray to have their football/baseball teams win a title, or that their 'boy' they follow in NASCAR pulls through and wins the race. Because they are oblivious to the fact they share the world with other people and the idea that praying for a sports team is just a little bit selfish/ludicrous NEVER crosses their mind. They are going about oblivious to the fact there are other people out there; just like those people that sit in the left lane of the interstate going 68 in a 65 and you honk and flash your lights and THEY get pissed off at YOU.
THEN they have the audacity to get all uppity on you and proclaim what an ingrate/punk/arrogant asshole YOU are for thinking that YOU own the road. Their whole sense of logic has been utterly f*ed since they were born unto the world and their similarly selfish, oblivious parents raised them in front of the television and allowed them to make excuses for the sad state of affairs in their life because it was somehow OTHER people's fault they broke that leg/didn't make that payment/got fired for mouthing off/had someone flip them off on the highway when they were just minding their business/wasn't botherin' NO-body, un-hunh, I reckon'.
Our country is great, unfortunately a majority of it's people have a BIG issue with personal responsibility and are always looking to someone else to blame/take the responsibility. Don't even get me started on raising emissions standards specifically because street racers street race, and they are USUALLY in high performance cars, and therefore by limiting the performance aspect of a performance car you've nipped it in the bud. A bit like making cigarettes illegal because they CAN (and do) cause cancer; that doesn't change the fact nobody ever MADE a person who got lung cancer from smoking smoke in the first place. Why do we need the government to cut back supposedly, "Violent," video games and then you can turn on the news and see people being blown up, shooting each other, any other number of horrible things to watch... Hell Resident Evil was on TV the other day and damn near uncut, and so WE opted to turn it off lest the 6 y/o watching TV with us be irreparably harmed for the next few weeks and we have to comfort her out of night terrors. Just TURN the channel I says, just PAY ATTENTION to your kids I says, just pay attention, in general, to life as much as we pay attention to the damned vile television.
Umm. I don't see any reason to continue, the point's in there, and more than likely as board populations go, I'm preaching to the converted and to the actual problem this is like farting in the wind.
Uh, yeah, so... Who agrees?
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Bah just this AM I was driving in the rain to work. I live in SF Bay Area and most fools around here are scared to drive in the rain and thus they want to get in the far left lane and go 50mph.
This is cool by me as I grew up driving in the rain, thus I get in the far right lane and drive about 80MPH. I do this safely, using my blinker, not darting in and out or anything foolish.....just simply driving.
So I'm in the right lane and I see a Truck up ahead going slow, so I prepair my merge into the lane to my left. As I'm passing the last two cars before my merge (The lead one is doing like 60mph), the lead car suddonly speeds up with the intent to cock-block my merge.
I had plenty of room yet so I just gave it a bit more gas, turned on my blinker and merged. Apparently Mr. Tool didn't like that and continued to speed up till he was right on my ass, honking, flashing his lights and just being an ass. So I just simply slowed down to about 30mph. He got into the left lane to try to come around me but I simply just started going again and continued on my way to work.
What I don't get is why assholes think they are in the right when they intentionally try to cut you off when they know damn good and well what your intentions are. I was just going to do a simple every-day merge and this tool decides to take it to the next level for no reason at all.
Well at least it's not Monday 0.o
This is cool by me as I grew up driving in the rain, thus I get in the far right lane and drive about 80MPH. I do this safely, using my blinker, not darting in and out or anything foolish.....just simply driving.
So I'm in the right lane and I see a Truck up ahead going slow, so I prepair my merge into the lane to my left. As I'm passing the last two cars before my merge (The lead one is doing like 60mph), the lead car suddonly speeds up with the intent to cock-block my merge.
I had plenty of room yet so I just gave it a bit more gas, turned on my blinker and merged. Apparently Mr. Tool didn't like that and continued to speed up till he was right on my ass, honking, flashing his lights and just being an ass. So I just simply slowed down to about 30mph. He got into the left lane to try to come around me but I simply just started going again and continued on my way to work.
What I don't get is why assholes think they are in the right when they intentionally try to cut you off when they know damn good and well what your intentions are. I was just going to do a simple every-day merge and this tool decides to take it to the next level for no reason at all.
Well at least it's not Monday 0.o
You were going 20 miles per hour faster than people and passing them on the right in the rain?
I'd have sped up too... sorry.
The lead car sped up, wouldn't this create a gap between the lead car and the second car? This area wasn't good enough to get around the slow truck?
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No reason at all? Doing 80 in the rain around other drivers can (and often does) scare them. It's too fast for conditions, especially with other cars on the road who can (and will) do silly things. I'm not saying that this guy's response was right, but it's a bit silly to say "No reason at all." There was a reason, and it related directly to how you were driving. Passing on the right and driving fast in the rain.
No offense, but if you've spent a lot of time driving in the rain, I think you'd know better than to book it in the right hand lane to save yourself a few minutes of a commute.
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Don't want to go too off-topic, but if someone is truly scared that you are dangerous, they shouldn't intentionally put their vehicle directly in your path. Period.
Not saying that Bravnik was driving erratically or not. Drizzle and down pour both = rain. You can't tell from his story which it was...
Ah - Yes I was going 20mph faster than the others, safely I assure you. Just because people don't know how to drive in the rain or how to handle their cars it does not mean everyone doesn't. I grew up in Texas and I'm very use to driving in very heavy rain. This was just sprinkles today, not heavy by any means. Hell the spray from the car in front of you was actually harder than the rain. Simply put, they are typically scared of the rain as it hardly rains in the bay area. I'm use to it and drive accourdingly. I would not be driving 80MPH in a downpour. The traffic was light. Hell I could have just cut across 2 lanes to go around the truck and the cars to my left, but I had plenty of time and plenty of room to make a simple merge and to do so would be reckless and unsafe. I assure you I was not the issue in this and was not driving crazy or unsafe.
Now the lead car sped up after I was already past him, but just enough to make it dangerous for me to get in front of him. However, it could have been done but not in the rain. Thus, I sped up a little to make the merge safe.
FYI - If you would have sped up too, you would have put yourself in risk as well as the person you're trying to cock-block. The reason is that a LOT of people pass people and assume that because they passed them, they are safe to get over so they don't check. In the mean-time the person decided to be an ass and sped up to block them.......accidents happen because of stupid s*** like this. Luckly I'm a safe drive and always check my mirrors and use my blinker or I could have easly just assumed I passed the guy and was safe to get over, not knowing the ass sped up.
So my advise to you is just let them pass and don't take it upon yourself to correct someone else when in turn your attempt to be better than them actually puts you and them in danger that was unnecessary.
The Bay Area is a weird place for driving. In Texas you never pass on the right as it's illegal. However, in the bay area people enter the freeway doing 40MPH and head straight for the far left lane and go 65MPH. They have no idea what a Fast Lane is or how its rude to have a totally open road in front of them and a 2 mile line of cars behind. This is why the far right lane is usually the fastest lane in the bay area. It just boggles my mind sometimes for sure.
Now the lead car sped up after I was already past him, but just enough to make it dangerous for me to get in front of him. However, it could have been done but not in the rain. Thus, I sped up a little to make the merge safe.
FYI - If you would have sped up too, you would have put yourself in risk as well as the person you're trying to cock-block. The reason is that a LOT of people pass people and assume that because they passed them, they are safe to get over so they don't check. In the mean-time the person decided to be an ass and sped up to block them.......accidents happen because of stupid s*** like this. Luckly I'm a safe drive and always check my mirrors and use my blinker or I could have easly just assumed I passed the guy and was safe to get over, not knowing the ass sped up.
So my advise to you is just let them pass and don't take it upon yourself to correct someone else when in turn your attempt to be better than them actually puts you and them in danger that was unnecessary.
The Bay Area is a weird place for driving. In Texas you never pass on the right as it's illegal. However, in the bay area people enter the freeway doing 40MPH and head straight for the far left lane and go 65MPH. They have no idea what a Fast Lane is or how its rude to have a totally open road in front of them and a 2 mile line of cars behind. This is why the far right lane is usually the fastest lane in the bay area. It just boggles my mind sometimes for sure.
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Again, if you know how to drive in the rain, then you know that slower is better. Traction can be worse in a light drizzle than in a heavy downpour because of all the oil, rubber, dust and debris that remains on the road, where in a heavy rain it's washed away. How experienced a driver are you?
I don't care how good you think your car control is, that's not even the major issue. You only have control over what YOU do on the road, all the other drivers out there are completely out of your control. If they do something suddenly that you can't react to in time, you're screwed either way. Defensive driving isn't about how well you think you handle your car. And speaking of that, your car handling skills probably aren't as good as you think. Almost nobody's are. Take a few driving courses tailored towards emergency handling and bad weather, and you'll learn this real quick. Try a racing or rally course, too. You'll be surprised how "well" you handle your vehicle.
If it's wet and other people are driving slower because of it, there is a reason for it. A better approach is to deal with it until there is a good (safe) opportunity to pass, and then pass.
I'm not saying you're a bad driver or that the guy in the story wasn't an idiot, but the way you've described the situation, you're coming across as being just as guilty of bad driving as the other guy.
I don't care how good you think your car control is, that's not even the major issue. You only have control over what YOU do on the road, all the other drivers out there are completely out of your control. If they do something suddenly that you can't react to in time, you're screwed either way. Defensive driving isn't about how well you think you handle your car. And speaking of that, your car handling skills probably aren't as good as you think. Almost nobody's are. Take a few driving courses tailored towards emergency handling and bad weather, and you'll learn this real quick. Try a racing or rally course, too. You'll be surprised how "well" you handle your vehicle.
If it's wet and other people are driving slower because of it, there is a reason for it. A better approach is to deal with it until there is a good (safe) opportunity to pass, and then pass.
You don't know why he sped up, and you're assuming, for one.
If all it took to be a safe driver was checking your mirrors and using your blinker, almost everyone would be safe driver by default. That's not the case.
I'm not saying you're a bad driver or that the guy in the story wasn't an idiot, but the way you've described the situation, you're coming across as being just as guilty of bad driving as the other guy.
This is something I've noticed as well. Pretty much EVERYONE thinks they are an "above average" driver.
Personally, I only have one friend who I think is an exceptional driver.
I sometimes think I'm a super good driver, but then I usually do something profoundly stupid so I get put back in my place.
I'd like to chime in here and note that Bravnik, right or not for speeding in rain, has a point about assholes who speed up to cut you off when you signal and have a perfectly good opening, regardless of conditions at the moment. Whipping and cutting is one thing, signalling and legally getting into another lane is another, and I totally HATE people that speed up to cut you off. We are not all driving f*cking stock cars, and if we were the Corolla that just sped up to cut me off would be in the g/d wall then I'd drag him out of the car and we'd have ourselves a good old boy fight.
Secondly, rain is cause for heightened concern; yes. Rain is not snow and EVERYONE in Indiana drives like it's a g/d blizzard and the wet road is all black ice. I've been on the interstate with ALL of traffic going a cruising 80 and it starts to sprinkle; sprinkle damnit, not pour or rain, and you get a barrage of brake lights. When in the hell did everyone forget to drive and park their head up their asses? (smash)
Thirdly, I'm an above average driver, however not expert. I'm intermediate or above. I don't know anything over 110 safely; I've spent a lot of time in all the ranges at and below that. I have spent /maybe/, other than a 'Petty Experience' doing 20 laps around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, 20 minutes to an hour total in my life over 110. I don't mind 115, I don't mind 120, I don't even mind 125, it's downright fun, but you start getting upwards of 132 and above and that s*** gets straight ridiculous and everything changes. It's like in Red October when Connery ups the speed through the carefully mapped trenches, the ones mapped for such and such a time at such and such a depth with specifically noted turning degrees. From personal experience, and I must thank Gran Turismo for this because I'm dead certain it was muscle memory that saved me, after about 125 your normal reactions that you've learned from years and years of driving cannot up-compensate for the inertia you are then creating in addition to the mass of your flying-ass vehicle. We'll just leave it at that and not delve, save that I didn't wreck or ruin anything and walked away with nothing more than a 4-5 hour adrenaline high that had my ears buzzing and hands shaking. Lesson learned.
Now, all that said, if Bravnik is confident he can go 80mph in the rain, perhaps Bravnik IS perfectly safe and well travelling at that speed. Why not assume he/she is telling the truth and why not; it's perfectly reasonable to imagine someone can be /that/ talented a driver. It's NOT really that talented, he's not racing or whipping in and out of traffic or taking dog-legs. He's going in a straight line and carefully changing lanes with a signal. I mean, come on, as a fellow Mazdaspeed3 driver let's give him the benefit of the doubt, we are a small and elite community and that will never, ever change. I'd even venture that your average mini-van driver doesn't want or even make themselves AWARE of our car's existence. Just look at the history of cars nearly everyone here has owned.
In fact, I'd say that if you haven't bee 18 and stupid and totalled things your whole life, and you have a laundry list of turbos or NA cars that would be otherwise considered 'sports' or 'performance' labelled, PERHAPS we ALL therefore are just a little bit more knowledgable than everyone else who's had Tempos and Accords and those bad little pickups from Terminator 2 without the back-cap. You just plain cannot touch the face of the demon too often and not come away tainted; you can't have sports cars and speed now and again without forever popping your cherry and leaving yourself the huge gap in life that is, "Damnit I'm not in a car and I'm not driving and I'm not speeding, this f*cking sucks!" I'd even say many of us, like my own experiences, may have had a big wreck when we were younger that scared us like Maverick in that jet movie and we just couldn't get back until we were more confident, MORE experienced; savvy? Now we find ourselves with the classy hot lady of our lives, after slumming it for years, and we are going to show her a good time, and she is going to get us off, and together our Mazdaspeed3's and us, we'll all just have a good old time and there's nothing else we'd rather drive.
Personally, that's my story. I put off testing a MS3 forever, content with my normal 3s, her quiet ways, her nice tight (steering) and good (road) feel. Then I was getting an oil change and while she was in the doctor I saw this hot little secretary just sitting out in the lot, her gigantic (tires) hanging out part of a whole classy little wild package. She hadn't been out before; I was the first person to get in her. And she was just like my other one, started up, little louder, more cocky, bit confident perhaps... And then we shifted gears, and got out with our own road before us. And by GOD did that hot little number start eating it up while she held me back in my seat and it's all I could do to steer straight and gasp for breath between my ear-to-ear grin.
And by now I've digressed wholly and henceforth I shall stay more to topic, that being: so what if the man said he can drive in rain, people who speed up to cut you off when legally changing lanes with a signal and time for them to notice your intent, are gigantic flaming buttholes.
(wiggle)
Secondly, rain is cause for heightened concern; yes. Rain is not snow and EVERYONE in Indiana drives like it's a g/d blizzard and the wet road is all black ice. I've been on the interstate with ALL of traffic going a cruising 80 and it starts to sprinkle; sprinkle damnit, not pour or rain, and you get a barrage of brake lights. When in the hell did everyone forget to drive and park their head up their asses? (smash)
Thirdly, I'm an above average driver, however not expert. I'm intermediate or above. I don't know anything over 110 safely; I've spent a lot of time in all the ranges at and below that. I have spent /maybe/, other than a 'Petty Experience' doing 20 laps around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, 20 minutes to an hour total in my life over 110. I don't mind 115, I don't mind 120, I don't even mind 125, it's downright fun, but you start getting upwards of 132 and above and that s*** gets straight ridiculous and everything changes. It's like in Red October when Connery ups the speed through the carefully mapped trenches, the ones mapped for such and such a time at such and such a depth with specifically noted turning degrees. From personal experience, and I must thank Gran Turismo for this because I'm dead certain it was muscle memory that saved me, after about 125 your normal reactions that you've learned from years and years of driving cannot up-compensate for the inertia you are then creating in addition to the mass of your flying-ass vehicle. We'll just leave it at that and not delve, save that I didn't wreck or ruin anything and walked away with nothing more than a 4-5 hour adrenaline high that had my ears buzzing and hands shaking. Lesson learned.
Now, all that said, if Bravnik is confident he can go 80mph in the rain, perhaps Bravnik IS perfectly safe and well travelling at that speed. Why not assume he/she is telling the truth and why not; it's perfectly reasonable to imagine someone can be /that/ talented a driver. It's NOT really that talented, he's not racing or whipping in and out of traffic or taking dog-legs. He's going in a straight line and carefully changing lanes with a signal. I mean, come on, as a fellow Mazdaspeed3 driver let's give him the benefit of the doubt, we are a small and elite community and that will never, ever change. I'd even venture that your average mini-van driver doesn't want or even make themselves AWARE of our car's existence. Just look at the history of cars nearly everyone here has owned.
In fact, I'd say that if you haven't bee 18 and stupid and totalled things your whole life, and you have a laundry list of turbos or NA cars that would be otherwise considered 'sports' or 'performance' labelled, PERHAPS we ALL therefore are just a little bit more knowledgable than everyone else who's had Tempos and Accords and those bad little pickups from Terminator 2 without the back-cap. You just plain cannot touch the face of the demon too often and not come away tainted; you can't have sports cars and speed now and again without forever popping your cherry and leaving yourself the huge gap in life that is, "Damnit I'm not in a car and I'm not driving and I'm not speeding, this f*cking sucks!" I'd even say many of us, like my own experiences, may have had a big wreck when we were younger that scared us like Maverick in that jet movie and we just couldn't get back until we were more confident, MORE experienced; savvy? Now we find ourselves with the classy hot lady of our lives, after slumming it for years, and we are going to show her a good time, and she is going to get us off, and together our Mazdaspeed3's and us, we'll all just have a good old time and there's nothing else we'd rather drive.
Personally, that's my story. I put off testing a MS3 forever, content with my normal 3s, her quiet ways, her nice tight (steering) and good (road) feel. Then I was getting an oil change and while she was in the doctor I saw this hot little secretary just sitting out in the lot, her gigantic (tires) hanging out part of a whole classy little wild package. She hadn't been out before; I was the first person to get in her. And she was just like my other one, started up, little louder, more cocky, bit confident perhaps... And then we shifted gears, and got out with our own road before us. And by GOD did that hot little number start eating it up while she held me back in my seat and it's all I could do to steer straight and gasp for breath between my ear-to-ear grin.
And by now I've digressed wholly and henceforth I shall stay more to topic, that being: so what if the man said he can drive in rain, people who speed up to cut you off when legally changing lanes with a signal and time for them to notice your intent, are gigantic flaming buttholes.
(wiggle)
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The problem is that understanding vehicle dynamics isn't a straight forward thing, and applying that understanding to real world situations is even more complicated. And, sometimes it takes a few years behind the wheel for people to stop thinking they are invincible. You might be young, you might have great reactions, and you might be able to do j-turns in an empty snowwy parking lot, but how does that help you when somebody cuts you off because they forgot to shoulder check when merging right while you're approaching them with 20mph of overtake? Everybody makes mistakes on the road, nobody is a perfect driver, and there will always be situations that are out of your control.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a car guy and I like to dick around on the road as much as everyone else, but there is a time and a place for that sort of thing. I just don't think a merging lane in the rain is one of those places. 99.99% of the time, nothing bad will happen. Too many unforseen things could have gone wrong, though, and at 80 mph you don't have a lot of time to react. Plus, if you don't have a lot of experience and practice with vehicle handling at speed, you're liable to over-brake, over-correct, etc etc etc. Too many variable, not enough time or space to sort them out safely.
A small-ish anecdote that drove this home for me. I was in the fast lane doing 65. I needed to merge right to make an exit. There was a heavily overloaded truck towing a tandem trailer loaded with fishing gear, aluminum boat hulls, a 4x4, some BBQs, etc. I had space to pull in front of him, but said to myself "I'll wait a bit for a better opportunity, that guy looks like trouble." He had a lot of unsecured stuff in his back, and his driving seemed off to me. Traffic was a bit heavy, as it was nearing rush hour.
We crested a hill, and traffic had come to a stop up ahead. I hit the brakes, started to slow with traffic, needed to slow fairly quickly as the slowdown was a bit unexpected (but nothing serious). The truck, however, had to stomp on the brakes to stop his heavy load. And his front tires locked up. He had long treadwear hard compound rubbe, and he didn't stop, he just seemed to slide right past me and right through the car to my right (where I had almost been if I'd made my lane change). The car (Hyundai Accent) got stuck underneath the bumper of the truck, and the both started drifting to the left, cutting the woman ahead of me off. She had to hit the brakes hard to avoid being hit by the back of the trailer as the truck veered into her lane. I'd seen the truck hit the car and was already braking harder, and I came to a stop fine. The guy behind in a Ford Windstar me also saw it happen, and HE stopped fine. The guy behind him in the GMC 3500 van, however....
The 3500 hit the windstar at about 50. Pushing them both (10,000 pounds of van, now stuck together) into me at about 25. Pushing me into the car ahead of me. Total write off on a car I'd only had for four months. I did everything right, recognized a potential problem with that truck, gave myself lots of following distance to slow down if traffic slowed down, didn't rear end the car ahead of me when I had to respond to traffic (or the accident that could have distracted me), didn't brake so hard that the guy behind me hit me, but there I was on the side of the highway, still screwed because someone else didn't pay attention. It was dry, it was a sunny day, and I was doing much less than 80.
Driving "skill" often means nothing on the road. I wish more people knew this. It can definately help in a lot of situations, but it isn't a foolproof way of keeping you out of trouble.
I believe that if you let someone into your lane and they don't give the friendly wave...
Then you have every right to floor it, draft them, get up under 'em and put 'em into the wall!
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When I'm an old, crotchety bastard I'm buying a big ass '79 Bonneville and when someone pisses me off I will just 360* them.
To hell with it. (beer)
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LOL - Wow. Ok little background. I started driving at 15 and I'm 42 years old and I have never in my life been in an accident (knock on wood and hope I didn't just jynx myself to appease some people on a forum). I drive almost a 100 miles a day to work round trip. I drive in the bay area where every asian in a Honda is a potential accident waiting to happen (stereo-type yes, but valid to a degree in the BA).
I was driving this AM in a straight line, in the right lane on a bridge with a nice shoulder. I was passing 2 cars who where driving about 60mph in the 2nd lane from the right. The lead car decided to spead up and was OBVIOUSLY trying to block a simple merge I was going to make (Blinker On). I didn't realise he sped up till I looked in my side mirror prior to the merge (Blinker ON).
I had to get up to 85MPH to merge safely due to him speading up. My other choice was to slow down and merge behind him and possibly the 2nd car behind him. I chose to spead up just a bit and make a nice normal everyday merge as the road in front of him was clear. He in return decided to speed up get about a foot off my ass honking and flashing his lights like a mad man.......and I'm the guy in the wrong here? Go figure. Just exactly who endangered who in this example? Was I speeding? Yes. But was I a danger to this guy or anyone on the road? Hell no. I was not driving like a mad man changing lanes and cutting people off in a damn downpour. I was simply driving the way I do and making a very simple merge in driving conditions that were just fine.
I really appreciate those that are sticking up for me. Its good to see that someone can understand a situation and accept it for what it was and not try to pass judgement on something that they have no clue about.
I consider myself a very safe driver. Yes I drive fast, I always have. But I'm very aware of my surroundings and try my best to anticipate other peoples actions. I have owned a lot of fast cars in my day and I own them for 2 reasons. 1. They are fun to drive. 2. HP and Good Breaks have saved me many many times when a lessor vehicle would have put me in the middle of a wreck.
I drive like I use too when I use to ride. Having a bike teaches you how to watch others and most importantly that going a little faster than the traffic flow is actually safer then going the same speed or *gasp* driving slower. I think never being in an accident in 27 years speaks pretty good for my driving ability. However, I have had 3 speeding tickets in my life o.0
I was driving this AM in a straight line, in the right lane on a bridge with a nice shoulder. I was passing 2 cars who where driving about 60mph in the 2nd lane from the right. The lead car decided to spead up and was OBVIOUSLY trying to block a simple merge I was going to make (Blinker On). I didn't realise he sped up till I looked in my side mirror prior to the merge (Blinker ON).
I had to get up to 85MPH to merge safely due to him speading up. My other choice was to slow down and merge behind him and possibly the 2nd car behind him. I chose to spead up just a bit and make a nice normal everyday merge as the road in front of him was clear. He in return decided to speed up get about a foot off my ass honking and flashing his lights like a mad man.......and I'm the guy in the wrong here? Go figure. Just exactly who endangered who in this example? Was I speeding? Yes. But was I a danger to this guy or anyone on the road? Hell no. I was not driving like a mad man changing lanes and cutting people off in a damn downpour. I was simply driving the way I do and making a very simple merge in driving conditions that were just fine.
I really appreciate those that are sticking up for me. Its good to see that someone can understand a situation and accept it for what it was and not try to pass judgement on something that they have no clue about.
I consider myself a very safe driver. Yes I drive fast, I always have. But I'm very aware of my surroundings and try my best to anticipate other peoples actions. I have owned a lot of fast cars in my day and I own them for 2 reasons. 1. They are fun to drive. 2. HP and Good Breaks have saved me many many times when a lessor vehicle would have put me in the middle of a wreck.
I drive like I use too when I use to ride. Having a bike teaches you how to watch others and most importantly that going a little faster than the traffic flow is actually safer then going the same speed or *gasp* driving slower. I think never being in an accident in 27 years speaks pretty good for my driving ability. However, I have had 3 speeding tickets in my life o.0
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I'm not saying you're a bad driver or even attacking you. I'm not even saying that what you did puts you in the wrong. I'm just still having trouble wrapping my head around you making the argument that the 85 mph overtake move in the rain was the safer choice than slowing down and pulling in behind them.
Two questions. Would he have slowed down to prevent you from merging behind him? If he was driving that erratically, why would you want him behind you?
You both endangered each other?
Two questions. Would he have slowed down to prevent you from merging behind him? If he was driving that erratically, why would you want him behind you?
