Warning!! Mazda Reps

[crashkelly]

Yeah technically they should have won unfortunately. The best defense against that is to hide you VIN and plates.

It doesn't change the fact that they are complete assholes for doing that!

why should they have won the lawsuit? If competition racing voids their warranty and they got caught they deserve it. I think it's total bulls*** that everyone does all this s*** to their car, but they get all pissed when their s*** gets voided like they were owed something just for buying the car. Everyone in here knows when they are breaking their warranty and if you get caught then that's the consequences...It's such bulls*** that people cry and b**** about the dealerships trying to void warranties when the car owners HAVE VOIDED THEIR WARRANTY!

They are a business and they are trying to cut down on bulls*** claims because it costs them time and money. The dealership told every motherf-er out there what would cause their warranty to be voided and people are actually surprised that dealerships are trying to keep from basically being defrauded.

I mean seriously, what the f-ck would you do if you owned a retail store and then you saw there were forums all over the internet where people are talking about how they bought your product, then destroyed it by nothing other than their own stupidity, but they were going to take it back to your store and make it look like it wasnt their fault for breaking it. Then you have to pay out of pocket for every idiot trying to pull a fast one.

IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR WARRANTY BEING VOIDED THEN DON'T MODIFY YOUR CAR...

 

[AutoXRacer]

I really can't "hear" that theme music in my head...Can someone link it to make this even more special.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q91-nER4ins&feature=related

 

[ForceFed]

Aghh..Yes....Thank you...
this thread has much more meaning now.

I couldn't quite remember it....I kept hearing jepordy playing in my head for some reason.

 

[meha11]

My car goes to the dealer with all mods on it, people need to be responsible for their actions, its basic honesty and nothing more.
My local dealer has fixed unrelated problems and declined services for related issues which is how it should be.

 

[acidbug]

This is old news.

I have owned 2 mazda's over the years.

Mazda does ready up on forums..I remember few years ago someone got their warranty voided for track racing. Came on the forums to vent about it and the mechanic came on flaming the guy for being stupid.

Here's a tip.

If you care about your warranty..don't mod or race it.

-C

 

[ForceFed]

If you care about your warranty..don't mod or race it.

-C

Or just dont talk about it.

 

[mx-p5]

I don't race, and, i don't consider my mods to void any warrantys(except maybe the headlights and foglight mod), so, I am not worried about it.

But, I do see both sides of the argument. If the car can't handle a good romp on the throttle even on the streets, it's the dealers problem

But, if you take your car to the track and thrash on it, that's your own fault.

Drive responsibly and mod responsibly.

Tylor

 

[Betelgeuse]

This is old news.

I have owned 2 mazda's over the years.

Mazda does ready up on forums..I remember few years ago someone got their warranty voided for track racing. Came on the forums to vent about it and the mechanic came on flaming the guy for being stupid.

Here's a tip.

If you care about your warranty..don't mod or race it.

-C

I remember a while back on the audi forums a guy who claimed his dealer messed up his intake and other mods when they were talking them off to work on his car. I think he also claimed they misplaced things. If anyone has a link or remember this incident, feel free to chime in.

Well little did he know the service advisor was a member and posted a bunch of pics showing all his mods tucked away in a box and pretty much called the guy out on everything he said. The guy eventually apologized but still got seriously reemed by the dealer the all the other members.

Fact is, lots of manufacturers browse the webs esp. when it comes to higher performance cars that are ripe for modding. It does suck in some ways to be honest, but I can't blame them.

 

[AutoXRacer]

But, if you take your car to the track and thrash on it, that's your own fault.

Drive responsibly and mod responsibly.

Tylor

Thats a miss conception... All the racers I know, treat their cars better than their mothers...as I do. The only thing I am trashing on the track are my tires and brakes which are wear items. I can't blow the engine since it has safetly parameters built into it (rev limiter, boost controller, etc). Most true racers take care of their cars...

Only ignorant, lame ass, wannabee racers thrash their cars...

(rant) OK, I'm done venting...

Oh and I forgot to mention, its ironic how Mazda promotes racing their cars by offering sponsorships and discounts to owners who race their Mazdas in sanctioned events...

 

[MS3077]

Thats a miss conception... All the racers I know, treat their cars better than their mothers...as I do. The only thing I am trashing on the track are my tires and brakes which are wear items. I can't blow the engine since it has safetly parameters built into it (rev limiter, boost controller, etc). Most true racers take care of their cars...

Only ignorant, lame ass, wannabee racers thrash their cars...

(rant) OK, I'm done venting...

Oh and I forgot to mention, its ironic how Mazda promotes racing their cars by offering sponsorships and discounts to owners who race their Mazdas in sanctioned events...

+1

And why the **** would MAZDA recommend dropping the clutch at 2900rpm and flat shifting thru 2nd and 3rd to run a good 1/4 and then say "Don't worry it won't break" ?????

If the car can't take a few good 1/4 mile passes then it's a piece of s*** anyway in my book. The only way in my opinion your warranty should be voided is if you clearly make driving errors like burning the clutch, consistent miss shifts, etc. I don’t think simply because a car was spotted running the at the local strip is grounds on it’s own to void a warranty.

Also I wouldn't consider helping the car breathe a little better via an intake are exhaust modifications grounds for voiding a warranty, unless Mazda can without a doubt prove the modifications were the cause. Also, it's really annoying that Mazda decided to put in probably the most restrictive air box and weak ass rear motor mount in our car. Also the shifter kinda sucks...
This is just my opinion flame me if you want!

 

[ForceFed]

I beleive he was mainly referring to road coarse tracks...Considering his NAME and all.

 

[MS3077]

I beleive he was mainly referring to road coarse tracks...Considering his NAME and all.

Yes I know But I'm implying it for any type of racing

 

[detsilverms3]

seriously, how would the company be able to prove you were the person at a race or put whatever mod on your car unless you put a video of yourself up doing it. they have to prove it, plain and simple. parts you can't take off your car are an easy way to prove it but then again they have to prove it caused the failure. i heard about this when i had my focus. its ridiculous. i took my focus in for multiple warranty issues with major mods i never took off. so i highly doubt that this is an actual problem. it's all blah blah blah to me. i find both irratating and funny that people think there people watching their every move on the internet or believe the hype of this stuff. whenever i have problems at a dealer, i just say prove it if they can no problem i'll pay but 90% of the time. they can't.

-end rant

 

[crashkelly]

+1

And why the **** would MAZDA recommend dropping the clutch at 2900rpm and flat shifting thru 2nd and 3rd to run a good 1/4 and then say "Don't worry it won't break" ?????

If the car can't take a few good 1/4 mile passes then it's a piece of s*** anyway in my book. The only way in my opinion your warranty should be voided is if you clearly make driving errors like burning the clutch, consistent miss shifts, etc. I dont think simply because a car was spotted running the at the local strip is grounds on its own to void a warranty.

Also I wouldn't consider helping the car breathe a little better via an intake are exhaust modifications grounds for voiding a warranty, unless Mazda can without a doubt prove the modifications were the cause. Also, it's really annoying that Mazda decided to put in probably the most restrictive air box and weak ass rear motor mount in our car. Also the shifter kinda sucks...
This is just my opinion flame me if you want!

Yeah but it doesnt matter what your opinion is. The warranty is the warranty and you signed it. If you want a faster car that "breathes" better, then buy a sports car...I just cant get over this attitude people have (and I am not directing this at you, it is just a general comment) that even though they have a complete written warranty specifically stating what they can and cannot do, they still think that after they buy the car that they are entitled to put on what most tuners consider "basic mild modifications" just because they dont "see what the big deal is"

If a manufacturer wanted you to have a sportier exhaust or intake they would include it on the car. If the dealership thought it wasn't a big deal to have certain mods they would exclude them from the warranty.

It's just funny how people put intakes and exhausts on their car and are like "I dont see the big deal in putting that stuff on my car" well then why did you have to go and void the warranty and put it on? If it shouldnt be a big deal to them then it shouldnt be a big deal to you to wait until the warranty runs out before putting the stuff on.

 

[AutoXRacer]

The reason the manufacturer does not put intakes, exhausts, suspension, etc on cars is because most buyers do not want the added noise and harshness that comes with mods; plus it would make the car too expensive...they have to accommodate the masses.

Regarding Mazda, they are the biggest manufacturer involved in promoting motorsports. They own/sponsor numerous race tracks around the country and the world. All their cars have the "soul of a sports car". (lol2)
Why would Mazda offer light-weight forged wheels, coil-over suspension, sways, intake, exhaust, etc... The list keeps going and going...

And as I mentioned earlier, Mazda sponsors and give racers discounts for racing their car...for Mazda, its like free advertisement...they are really into promoting motorsports...

 

[MS3077]

The reason the manufacturer does not put intakes, exhausts, suspension, etc on cars is because most buyers do not want the added noise and harshness that comes with mods; plus it would make the car too expensive...they have to accommodate the masses.

Regarding Mazda, they are the biggest manufacturer involved in promoting motorsports. They own/sponsor numerous race tracks around the country and the world. All their cars have the "soul of a sports car". (lol2)
Why would Mazda offer light-weight forged wheels, coil-over suspension, sways, intake, exhaust, etc... The list keeps going and going...

And as I mentioned earlier, Mazda sponsors and give racers discounts for racing their car...for Mazda, its like free advertisement...they are really into promoting motorsports...

+1
Thank you! That's the point I was trying to get across some of these ppl.
And maybe it's just me but why the **** would someone buy a MS3 just to drive to and from work?? This is a tuner car and I'm pretty sure it was made in mind that people are going to modify it to some extent anyway. I mean just take the stock air box for example... It's the most restrictive air box ever put in a car just replacing it with pretty much any intake system frees up like 10hp at least. Oh and the rear engine motor mount! If you leave this on because you're afraid of the warrenty being voided I feel sorry for you. I would probably sell this car if the stealership gave me problems about my rear engine motor mount because it really sucks without it. I don't like missing gears just because I'm shifting high in the revs.

 

[redrocketz]

I think Ford is more into promoting the modification and racing of their vehicles than anyone else. Who else sends out car to every known Mustang aftermarket company 6 months before the car is released just so there would be parts out there the instant the car goes on sale. Hell they sell full drag racing packages for their cars and warranty them. You can get gears, shifter, suspension, intake, supercharger, headers, exhasut and a reflash and still keep your factory warranty.

And on the warranty issues be realistic if you rip your cats off not only are you instantly voiding your emissions warranty but you are commiting a federal offence, if you go and install all this stuff and your motor pops you might get lucky and the dealer will get it warrantied and maybe not. When I worked for Acura a kid misshifted and sent his motor up to alteast 16k rpm and floated the valves into the pistons, he had every bolton under the sun on that car from race header and exhaust to different intake manifold and cold-air box along with a bunch of other little s*** and we ended up warranting the car but told the kid it was the last time. Why you ask, because he was a good customer, you treat your dealer right and they will treat you right. Our mazda dealer we go to treats us pretty well and our customers. one of our customers went in there with a full catless TBE, intake, and Standback and they did warranty work on the car still.

 

[Betelgeuse]

+1
Thank you! That's the point I was trying to get across some of these ppl.
And maybe it's just me but why the **** would someone buy a MS3 just to drive to and from work?? This is a tuner car and I'm pretty sure it was made in mind that people are going to modify it to some extent anyway. I mean just take the stock air box for example... It's the most restrictive air box ever put in a car just replacing it with pretty much any intake system frees up like 10hp at least. Oh and the rear engine motor mount! If you leave this on because you're afraid of the warrenty being voided I feel sorry for you. I would probably sell this car if the stealership gave me problems about my rear engine motor mount because it really sucks without it. I don't like missing gears just because I'm shifting high in the revs.

Because Mazda sponsors racing doesn't mean your car is a race car. Don't get me wrong, I drive my car hard but taking it to the track regularly will surely put more strain on it than hard driving on the street. Also, I don't know if Mazda intended this car to be a serious tuner as cracking the ECU has turned out to be a royal pain in the ass! It's not like they have a dedicated aftermarket company like Darrel Cox working with them. And with all the electrical nannies programmed into it, it seems like they designed the car to be as reliable as possible AS IS.

But I will agree, a simple intake shouldn't be cause for concern but a full exhaust system can be iffy on this car. I say that because quite a few people have run into overboosting issues which isn't healthy for the engine at all. Notice how there's no Mazdaspeed high flow cats or downpipe/racepipes?
If they thought the car would be ok, I'm sure they'd sell them in a heartbeat.

 

[dparm1984]

If Mazda sells a CBE right at the dealership, I would think that it isn't a problem. And frankly, a CBE is not going to do much to the car reliability wise.....anything after the cat has virtually no impact on emissions, etc.

But yes, when in doubt, keep it stock.

 

[maestro]

Just because manufacturers support and promote motorsports does not mean they should accept responsibility for modded cars that break.
A local guy got his warranty voided and his claim denied by Chevy after he was caught at the track in his Cobalt last summer. I don't recall the problem with the car. Local dealer had pics of his VIN as well as his plates, while doing laps, at a track day.